James_McNulty Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Alright, going to be brutally honest. As of now Eclipse is a light-medium RP server. I think most if not all of the community is aware of that, and there is nothing wrong with it either. However with NLR and CK change recommendations recently along with higher jail times and possible DOC changes we could see the server shift to slightly more serious and heavy RP. However being blunt the whitelist/application system to get into the server now is rather minimal. And I know months ago there was a thousand applications backed up. But I know now there is a lot of quiz staff and I personally got my results in under 4 days. Meaning enough people apply to this server daily to justify setting some higher standards to potentially weed out poor RP'ers and or general bad applicants. A lot of new players cheat on the quiz and use google and or Youtube for answers, and or even spam messages to people in the server discord begging for help. And once they cheat and pass the server quiz all they have to type character story wise is a measly paragraph. The character/word limit on the " Background Story " section when you apply is legit limited to 350 characters. And if that is the limit what is the requirement?. It is way too low IMO. I had a whole 800-1,000 + word character story ready and I was not even able to paste it into the field. It legit stopped around 350-400 words. Meaning like only a bundle of sentences really. In summary, it needs to be harder to pass quiz and people should be expected to type longer and better character stories for vetting on RP purposes. Bare in mind I have come to love this server and it is my home for everything online with GTA, this comes completely from a place of love and desire to better the community in which I am playing in. Please feel free to reply with your +/- and let me know what you ladies and gents think. Do you think the Quiz and server application itself is hard enough?. Do you think it should be easier to let in more players?. Feel free to comment and discuss as you please!. My ideas for Server Application Change ... Note : I know there is an IC forum section for character stories. I'm merely pointing out the current very LOW word requirement and limit on the server form text field when you first apply for Eclipse RP. Ideas for Quiz Section : Add at least 10-15 more Quiz questions, and update the quiz routinely to account for new and or changed rules Add multi-choice sections that are actually challenging and require people to KNOW the rules - NOT JUST RECITE THEM BACK Add multiple hypothetical scenario based questions, testing if their interpretation of the rules is really correct. ( IE Robbery situations, Hostage, Police interactions, Fear RP and intimidation, etc ) Character Story Section Change Ideas : Increase Character/Word count in the text field area to a minimum of 600-800 words Increase standards for accepting applications based on applicants submitted Character Background Story , so.. - Don't accept if the story is riddled with spelling errors - Don't accept if the story is so poorly worded you can tell the person cannot even proficiently speak English enough to use VOIP appropriately to communicate IG - Dont accept if the story is deemed to low quality of and RP background story. Generally expect more from applicants who want to play here In Summary : EASIER APPLICATION = More Low Quality RP'ers and bad applicants get through - Server pop goes up but it's all non-rp robbery and DM all day HARDER APPLICATION = Higher quality RP because those with low or no RP skill will not even get into the server - server pop grows slower , but you get quality over quantity Edited August 2, 2019 by James_McNulty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balastas Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) -1 New players aint the problem... There is ofcourse people who can't rp a shit and break all rules when they come but because someone else filled their application and they will do if you make it harder. People who want to learn rp they will actually try to learn and will ask for help. The problem is not new players if you can see who break rules the most its older players... Edited August 2, 2019 by Balastas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_McNulty Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Balastas said: -1 New players aint the problem... There is ofcourse people who can't rp a shit and break all rules when they come but because someone else filled their application and they will do if you make it harder. People who want to learn rp they will actually try to learn and will ask for help. The problem is not new players problem if you can see who break rules the most its older players... Well thought out and good reply, I did not think of that!. If there really is a plague of people doing their applications for other players is there a security system that could be em-placed to fix this?. Like IP linked-UCP accounts that way only one person can apply/connect to said account for security purposes?. And if the older and more settled players who break all the rules how are they still here?. I notice some people have multiple bans even going on 5. Is there a permanent ban system in place on Eclipse when it comes to moderation and administrative punishment?. Based on a lot of peoples actions in game they don't even care about Forum Complaints and or getting administrative punishment. If you get like three bans do you get perma banned?. What is the actual system in place when it comes to repeated punishments?. If it's not the new players in the community causing the problems and it's the well embedded players than there is systematically something wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copes Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Personally I think an enforced roleplay standard would be viable. Additionally, I feel like the quiz should include almost every hypothetical scenario question we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_McNulty Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Copes said: Personally I think an enforced roleplay standard would be viable. Additionally, I feel like the quiz should include almost every hypothetical scenario question we have. What specifically is a enforced roleplay standard?. Is that something that you guys have already or is this a concept of yours?. Is it more in game or we talking still application stage type of standard?. Also I agree with your statement regarding the Quiz too, IMO there needs to be more and generally harder questions. Also I would +1 you but your 187 and that's even better than 420. Cannot bump ya' off the 187 upvotes it's too dope. Edited August 2, 2019 by James_McNulty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copes Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, James_McNulty said: What specifically is a enforced roleplay standard?. Is that something that you guys have already or is this a concept of yours?. Is it more in game or we talking still application stage type of standard?. Also I agree with your statement regarding the Quiz too, IMO there needs to be more and generally harder questions. By that I like to refer to the concept of people mentioning "This is poor rp, but not a rulebreak". It's easier said then done but there should be some type of deterrence towards roleplay of that standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_McNulty Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Copes said: By that I like to refer to the concept of people mentioning "This is poor rp, but not a rulebreak". It's easier said then done but there should be some type of deterrence towards roleplay of that standard. Ohhhhhh , my bad. That makes sense. Thanks for clarification!. Edited August 2, 2019 by James_McNulty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
