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  1. On 2/21/2021 at 2:01 AM, Percival said:

     

    I see your point, but I have to respectfully disagree. We should not lower the gang cap or department cap. Everything needs to be dealt with IC and through IC ramifications...

    I.e LSPD won't hire more people if they can't afford. 

    Gangs should be able to have as many people as they choose if they want to build an empire if they can handle it.

    Lets stop with the OOC limitations onto roleplay, and just let whatever happen, happen... 

    Only then will we truly have an immersive... full out VIRTUAL WORLD of LIFE.

    If we disable the Nametags to use ALT HOLD, we mind as well remove some OOC limitations on roleplay.... if not..... what was the actual point of making the ALT HOLD on Nametags???????? I understand its to make a "perception" of realism... but if its possible... to make things on the server more realistic... why limit the roleplay???? Why say, 1 gang can't take control of 6 criminal organizations? Why say, a gang needs to be official to arms traffic? Why say, we can't have planes when it can be made possible.

    No faction cap per OOC means

    If they can afford it IC, let them. Want to lower gang's membership, LEO's should attack their finances, take their money, and assets, make them smaller..... 

    LSPD Wants more funding for more officers? Gov raise taxes... sell things, etc... make money in general ...

    Gang wants to build empire??? Take control of different revenue streams.... 

    Everything I've mentioned is 100% possible to do on the server with this player base and the resources currently in this community.

    CAMPAIGN: STOP LIMITING ROLEPLAY

     

    I'm agree with this but back at the community again, the player itself.
    Before management implement "something" that could do a major change "RP SIDE" not "SCRIPT SIDE" you need to improve the way player can join the server. Improve the Rules, and Improve the punishment system.

    Why not try to implement new punishment system ? implement Non-RP #1 , Non-RP#2 , Non-RP#3 people actually will doing it again and again.

    Why dont use "Temporary Ban" or "Punishment Point", people will actually filter their roleplay before "DOING" it.
    You get ban for temporary every time you break rules, or apply punishment points. because if people only get "JAILED" the same mistake , the same thing that happens, will happens twice. 

    There are a lot of way to make a community member think about the risk and how the roleplay could run in proper way before "STARTING" the roleplay situation because they will think about the "punishment" that happens to him if the RP is out of the context and breaching server rules. "ooc jailed?" nah its fine, its only 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 60 minuts, 120 minutes.
    how if, someone breaching "Non-Roleplay", Temporary ban 3 Days. Temporary Ban 7 Days. will they care about server rules ? of course they will and chaos will not happens.

  2. On 2/21/2021 at 3:57 AM, tylxrrr said:

    I think it will be too much chaos. I know damn well everyone is going to be flying their airplanes, just like everyone be carrying a gun. If there were heavy weapon licenses, everyone will have a micro on their hip. The best way to mitigate problems and risks is to simply just not allow it or have it.

    I agree that rules should definitely be loosened up. For example, the robbery rule, it should be more about not robbing your average citizen doing their day-to-day job. It shouldn't apply to rival gang members. If someone is talking shit, you should be able to rob them anywhere or if someone is wearing your colors, you should be able to rob them. 

    It wouldn't become a "CHAOS" if before this update. ECLIPSE-ROLEPLAY implement new registration, new quiz, new rules for everything and let the "RULES" handle the player. most of people known "ECLIPSE" as "Shooting" Roleplay server because its been there since ages... everyone change ? am i right ? yes ofc. "ECLIPSE" change their culture, their gamestyle, "SHOOTING" gameplay reduced. but lets ask from some people that know about "RP" and "RAGE-MP" , "Does they look eclipse as shooting server?" , i can say yes because i joined 2019, at the time that shootout between gang and peoples around always happens everywhere. now they changing, its become more little bit fun and interesting but still preventing some Roleplay that might interested to implement, instead of script , script and script. recent eclipse update actually good but it will become perfect with a good roleplayers.

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  3. 2 minutes ago, UrbanAwsomeman said:

    So your evidence wasn't valid then? If it was valid even with OOC corruption permission he/she would get in trouble.

    I got arrested for paying ticket inside mission row, detective give a command towards another officer to arrest me because i've been told to leave mission row meanwhile i dont have anything on me and i dont use a mask, i just pay my ticket there. does it make sense ? i got all the evidence and reported it, just because it was petty i guess, they dont accept it kekw 😄

  4. 2 minutes ago, UrbanAwsomeman said:

    No one gets searched because they are a convicted felon or a gang leader. If they are being searched on that reason alone that needs to be taken to IA

    I did once, nothing happens. all evidence were valid but the person who handle IA blatantly rejected it because the person that i reported got OOC Corruptions.

  5.  So who's more into Happy trigger roleplay ? , "mate drop your gun then start shooting when i got 2 hostage on gun point" i know how risk is to start a Roleplay against cops when you're a criminal or civilian, but with these behavior i don't think it will improve heavy Roleplay lol. some people did a good Roleplay with me, some just bunch of new player in Roleplay.
     

    I always try to give my best of Roleplay experience for PD, again its a game, enjoy it , you dont play to win a ROLEPLAY game, there's nothing to gain on Roleplay server, you gain nothing, Roleplay is a enjoyable gamemode to let people develop their character and act as another person. not play to win gamemode.

    If we're talking about PD vs CRIME

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    PD isn't exempt anymore. Only LSEMS and Mechanics are at the moment.

    What would you suggest for LSEMS and Mechanics for off-road if an MR or a call is in the mountains? I do know that LSEMS has Kamachos, but you have to be a specific rank to use them. So, that would make the amount of medics that can respond to mountain calls a lot smaller.

    How can mechanics go off-road for an MR? Let's say there is a car accident in the road and a car ends up stalled in a rocky area. 

     

    Well then good, like i said, Rules should apply to every player. thats how RP server is, except the script are preventing it. Mechanic script preventing it due to only able to move the car or tow it using flatbed / tow truck so, this is totally fine, for LSES. then why not let other rank use kamacho incase there are injuries people on the mountain ?

     

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    It's not a "heavy roleplay" server though. Never has been. If you can do something really well, do that thing very well. Eclipse got popular and has retained it's success by doing the following;

    • Offering a voice based role-play experience.
    • Offering an experience of playing on a significantly populated server.
    • Offering a script that is straightforward to use.
    • Offering a place to RP for most levels of role-play.

    Overall, this server is what I would consider to on average a medium standard of role-play. That is because while we have some fantastic role-players, we also have some quite poor ones. The majority of us are somewhere in the middle. I consider myself in the middle personally.

    The differences between the standards in my book are;

    • Low - Players will do whatever they want, role-playing is optional but character development is next to non-existent.
    • Medium - A player's actions will be reasonably affected by role-playing, there will also be some character development but anything over the bare minimum is acceptable.
    • Heavy - Role-play and character development is the driving force behind almost everything that happens. The expectation is that players always react with their character in mind.

    My interpretation of the changes we've been making is that we're trying to consolidate between medium and heavy. Where players think about their character and their motives. Where role-play does drive the stories a little more and where we're not having people just doing or saying what the fuck ever they like.

    It is easier to have a higher standard of role-play on a text only server because you have to think about how to word what you want to say or do. In voice, things are a lot more reactive and the temptation to respond as YOU rather than your character, because someone is using their voice to talk to you, is a lot greater.

    OOC Speed Cameras, Robbery Rules, Faction Caps, Joint Frequency rules should not be needed on a role-play server but they have been implemented because players have been unable to control themselves in the past. I hope that at some point some of those restrictions can be removed, but in order for that to happen, trust has to be gained.

    Bala, you always answer with the right point, loves to see this words came out from your mind. i cannot disagree with this but why enforcing it only towards faction ? why not towards civilian that only grind at the pier 24/7 , or someone that always grinding 24/7 instead of roleplaying, where is the space for being civilian and start a civilian roleplay ? , where are the space to become freelance journalist, where are the space to become freelance lawyer ? why does people barely looking for photographer and let people start photographic roleplay ? where all the fun of being legal and civilian roleplay ? if you guys really trying to enforce and push a little bit heavy roleplay put more space for other player to start another "Roleplay Opportunity", you dont make money 24/7. there are a rules back at the day on sa-mp called "Money Machine" your character is not a robot. people always CK after getting bored with their character, money is not the way to start a roleplay, etc. where is it ? where is surgery roleplay havent seen it? too much pointing every roleplay scenario and events on script is not roleplay but RPG. meanwhile RP is more imaginative, RPG is more action-orientated. For instance, and RPG GTA V server will have classes and script and quests, you get the point, while RP is an open world where you can do anything, and action isn't a deciding factor. RPG is also less strict with the actual Roleplay part.

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  7. 19 minutes ago, alexalex303 said:

    Why are you writing pseudo-code? It doesn't help explain your point any better. 

    I don't understand your point about there being change if it was enforced. There was a lot of change. Speed cameras, robbery rules, faction caps, joint frequency rules, those are all changes to raise RP standard, and they did happen. 

    As for not hearing what the community wants or needs, the mistake is thinking that just because someone doesn't budge they're not listening. Speed cameras were introduced and there was huge backlash from the community about them. I don't think there's a single staff member that doesn't know this. They listened, they just didn't give in.

    The fact of the matter is that these changes are likely to continue, whether you like it or not. The RP standard will continue to get pushed further and further, which is great for the people that want that. I know there's a somewhat silent legal RP group that enjoys this direction, and they were particularly vocal when they could finally gas up without being robbed by gangs.

    Just because certain playstyles that we had gotten used to, and even I partook in are changing does not mean that the server is dying, or that no one is listening. It's just that it's changing. 

    The way you quote it and look into my reply feels like you only point me into "criminal rp" lol

    i never disagree to this "Speed cameras, robbery rules, faction caps, joint frequency rules"

    Once rules updated about non-offroad vehicle are not allowed to climb a mountain or do an offroad thing, i can see future. after reading it a while... "LSEMS, Mechanics and PD are exempt" , Rules should apply to every player. thats how RP server is, except the script are preventing it.

    honestly, take one of example. if you crash your vehicle into another vehicle, i can bet they will just use their voice "are you good?" mean while on heavy roleplay server, "/do blood would covering his head as he hit a steerwheel, /me reaches his head as he feels dizzy after a car crash"

    I can guarantee that no one will apply those thing in a roleplay scenario, pursuit or another thing due to a roleplay win mentality.  

    I already point it out, its dying of roleplay scenario and events. people care their money, their stuff over a roleplay scenario.

    enforcing immersive of roleplay huh? ye. bet..
     

  8. 6 hours ago, Solomun said:

    The rules are catered towards enforcing a high standard of roleplay? It's really hard to tell what your point is, but it's pretty blatant these past months that management have been trying to crackdown on sub-par roleplay and  have been actively enforcing it. 

    Yeah, well then you're new on RP, welcome. enforcing a high quality roleplay with community member behavior like you i dont think i will works. if management really trying to crackdown and enforcing it then there would be a change, player behavior, faction behavior and the management itself. they dont hear what community want and what community need.

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  9. 3 hours ago, alexalex303 said:

    I do not necessarily disagree with anything that you've stated, but I do agree with @Bala's sentiment.

    It seems that way too often people will have this alarmist attitude "server is dying", in order to push their own personal agendas and try to revive a playstyle that was frankly toxic.

    The server is fine; A specific playstyle that some people enjoyed is no longer supported/allowed, but the overall server is fine, and some might even say better without that playstyle.

     

    If you re-read the first post that i made on first page, i have never said that the server is dying, i literally said "dying of roleplay", 35% population and interaction is at the pier (GRINDING + Interactive RP). 20% at the bank (Interaction RP), 15% (Fully grinding), the rest at their faction hq and doing their faction RP, you think its fine ? well then, yeah its fine for current situation but think about further situation.

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  10. 4 hours ago, Bala said:

    Alright let’s not get things twisted here, a section of the community are not happy but this server ain’t on its knees. 300-400 people at peak every day. 

    I think if you want stuff to change and your opinion to be taken seriously, you have to establish your credibility. Taking pot shots and talking how terrible every thing is, ain’t it. 

    Either step up and be a part of the change you want to see or step off and let someone else do it.

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    300-400 people at peak every day. 

    I like the way you quote it, if eclipse based on heavy roleplay + the management are not biased it would be more than 400, normally 600 - 700,
    Lets take another example of community that only do a text-rp, they got stable peak on 500-650+ :))
    EclipseRP server script got potential but the branch, idk man. let community count on it.
     

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  11. 3 hours ago, Xoza said:

    Greetings,

    I don't have much intention to get much involved in this conversation, however I do want to simply state/request.. 

    Please stop comparing Eclipse RP to.. literally anything else... 

    Everything else is different in its own way. It's like comparing Everquest to WoW and WoW to anything else it's 'claimed to be a copy of'. It's like comparing CS:GO to Call of Duty.

    Sure, everyone likes to remember the 'good old days' and you can compare it on some level as everything is inspired by other things, but Eclipse RP is it's own server, with its own style, with its own goals, ideas, players, successes and even issues that evolve daily.

    If you want to make a difference, get involved be part of a positive conversation to change but be ready to adapt, and have an open mind to everything.

    I ain't comparing eclipse but i'm talking about the actual "Roleplay" stands for and how it works, and if you're thinking that "Eclipse RP" have their own style, with its own goals, ideas, players etc, then stop with enforcing "HIGH QUALITY" Roleplay to player. because it wont work, if eclipse want to have high quality roleplayer on the server, sorry to say, "The Rules, The Gameplay" are not compatible with the way Management Team enforcing "High Quality" Roleplay on the server. 

    As far as i know, FatherOsborn was from NGG/NGRP and Ballin was from LSRP, i believe both of them can enforce a good quality Roleplay into server 🙂 

  12. 4 hours ago, alexalex303 said:

    @Revelt comparing a voice RP server with a text RP server is not very good. I talked about this recently with a few people, as we all came from text RP, but it's definitively a whole different thing. In text RP, whenever you spoke, you had to type. It was very natural to continue typing and add a /me or an /ame. Even something as simple as /me nods. It felt natural.

    However, in voice RP. There will be times when I talk to people while they're being cuffed, and they stop answering to /mes and /dos, because they're talking, and they want to keep talking, but you can not talk while typing. In voice RP, typing (and therefore roleplaying) feels unnatural, because it stops you from talking, when you want to do it. 

    I think that this is a really important distinction that people do not consider.

    It is whole different thing, and yes ofc because to use IC Chat you need to type, to do an action you need to type as well.
    you don't get the point, the point is, majority of people don't care about your RP, lets say, i'm doing an action that i'm standing on my knees after get cuff, due to the cuff script not allow you to do /down i'll just write a /me , i can believe that no one will notice it, i'm not attacking you personally or something, but this is the fact and the truth of eclipse roleplay, no one cares about another player's RP , they just want to do have a chit and chat conversation and stuff. meanwhile you forgot the BASIC "RP" itself. you don't develop your own character. people laugh when there is someone got ran over, majority of people barely using their behavior to their prior event. lets say a car crash. i'm gonna take one of example. I literally just got ran over, i did the animation and /me /do, they still yelling "hands now hands , hands" dude i'm fucking dying , i got ran over ? i want to RP not to get jail and done done?

    No offense phillipe, i like your RP, Peace ^^v

     

     

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  13. 8 minutes ago, Cyrus Raven said:

    I will say SAMP RP from my experience was more in-depth while still allowing stuff like shootouts to happen fairly often, although it's likely because of rules like ''asspulling'' (having to RP taking a weapon out before using it) and the fact that it was text only that allowed these things to be possible.

    I don't think converting eclipse into a text server would be the solution, but perhaps allowing RP to be flexible enough that you can have more leniency (like the drive-by video) if there is enough supporting IC reason. As it stands (correct me if I am wrong), if you were to have a highly eventful line of RP where two gangs that are enemies come to the boiling point and attempt to start a war, there could never be something like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQGSy0TqxY) without someone catching a DM punishment. 

    Perhaps in the same vain of ''slowing things down'' while still keeping VOIP as a thing, make criminal activity and making money more interesting, I don't think I need to go into detail about this since pretty much anything that could be done has been said by Bala in his criminal 2.0 thread (https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/58198-criminal-overhaul-20/. Secondly, encourage players to fully act out their characters. No more cops with supers and multi-million dollar businesses/assets or criminals with supers and multi-million dollar businesses/assets. Players should be fully immersing themselves into their characters, if that means roleplaying as a street gang, only driving shitty cars, reping your colors and sticking to the grove/strawberry side of town then so be it. Likewise, if you're a career law enforcement officer, then you probably wouldn't have a very glamourous vehicle either. Those who really want nice houses and vehicles can achieve this by playing a character suited for that type of roleplay. 

    This goes both ways though, I would trade the entire economy this server has built up since it started for a chance at having some of that old-school SAMP RP back. I'm  sure there are a lot of people way smarter with better thought out ideas on how to achieve this, but there needs to be a balance, encourage players to act out their characters realistically, while still keeping in mind this is a game, people can and want to have fun without feeling like they are playing life simulator 2021 and this is possible without turning it into a GTAO/DM server. Balance.

     

     

    I agreed with all those your statement, we cannot compare voice-rp with text-rp, because there are a lot of difference between of it atleast majority of player "SHOULD" know the BASIC and implement the BASIC Roleplay itself. its very easy to fix the economy by script, its super easy..

    from my experience, there are a lot of people having million dollars on their bank account, how do i nerf it ? i make a dollar script system. by putting a " , " and " . " to those number.

    Lets say i have $10000000 Dollars ( 10 million dollars ) imma put a script to make it more dollar script $100.000,00 it has same amount of zero but different point. right ? 😄 the economy can be fix anytime, i never grind myself to start a roleplay, i can roleplay just with $500 in my bank account. but thats not the point. 

    To fix the entire server roleplay quality, you need to fix how player join the server, server quiz, management team, have a conversation with your players, try to become open minded person, let them express what they feel and let them know what they want, if its good implement, if its not good then give a reason. 

    You cannot do it like this "I got a burger and you need to eat it!" no you cannot!


    But you need to do it like this, "I got a burger, it has a cheese and meat inside of it, with a mayonnaise and sauce etc, it delicious, let me know how it taste"

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  14. ++ Also, Management need to Listen to their Community Member, LETS SAY, Spend a time for the community atleast 2 hours every month just to listen to them or explain them how IT WORKS. BUT HOW ? Do a "Community Meeting" i've done this 6 times, it happens every month, Player will understand and you will understand them!

    I'm talking like this because i care every Roleplay community.

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  15. 2 hours ago, Bala said:

    The current state of Eclipse Roleplay, that's quite the dramatic thread title but in the interest of contributing to the thread, I'll share some of my insight into this.

    Honestly, if you just use these kind of threads to bash a particular faction then you aren't going to be taken seriously and at the very least you'll likely be ignored to be honest. Every one wants to have their opinion and be heard and feel that they matter but you aren't going to get anywhere by making enemies of people. 

    Part of the reason why I spent so long doing my criminal overhaul thread is that I can sympathise with the other side of the coin but lately when I see some of the attitudes and rude comments from some of you, I do question why I bothered. I could see why staff or developers might be reluctant to take some of you seriously or support your area of the server. Because if you are getting abuse from people, why would you support that or them?

    The whole PD v. Criminal thing needs to fucking stop. That's why people don't pay no attention to these threads, because it turns into a PD dart board. I'm not going to sit here and defend my faction because I've done it on other threads but honestly for us, it really isn't that deep. We could give a shit who we are arresting, it's about what you've done but for some of you, you would think you'd caught PD in bed with your mother or something by the way you hold a grudge. Let that shit go OOC, because if you do happen to have valid points but you start coming out with 'fuck pd rhetoric', you're going to waste your time.

    If you are focusing on other factions are losing or winning, you're missing the fucking point. It's not about winning and losing, it's about how you get there.
    Creating characters to populate, progress and fulfil stories.

    Eclipse has until recently in my opinion, been an every man kind of server. You'd have some great role-players, some decent role-players and some shit role-players but my interpretation of what's coming from the higher up staff is that we want to raise the standard of role-play within this community, which personally I'm on board with. This was never a heavy role-play server in any sense of the word, but that does not mean the server has not been successful or that it's not enjoyable.

    That being said, if we're going that way and I sincerely hope we are, we cannot fuck about with half measures and it needs to be a large effort on behalf of players AND staff to achieve this. It isn't an instant or easy process, but if you want a better role-play server, it's an necessary process.

    • Factions that are not here to contribute towards the role-play, that have an over-reliance on shooting and create OOC tension within the community need to be disbanded or at the very least, their leaders replaced BEFORE the rot sets in.
      In my opinion, a faction is only as good as the person ultimately in charge.
       
    • We need to demand more from every faction in terms of their role-play output.
      Whether you are legal, illegal, new or established, crim or PD. Every single faction should be held to the same standard.
       
    • Just as we should ask more from factions, we should also be more supportive of factions that demonstrate good roleplay.
      There are a bunch of ways that we can be add support to factions, including stuff like faction of the month, creating script stuff that ties in with their lore, giving good factions a chance at official etc..
       
    • Punishments for OOC toxicity need to be stronger and consistent.
      End of the day, if you don't have anything nice or constructive to say, you shouldn't say anything.
      I say that as someone that has been on their final warning for OOC attitude, for the last year.
       
    • Punishments for excessive local ooc (/b) and the passive aggressive #savepov mentality needs to get in the fucking bin.
      We all know only admins can stop a role-play situation. Constantly pulling a situation out of IC into OOC because you're AnGrY aNd UpSeT ruins what might potentially be a legitimate RP scenario.
      If you are going to report, conclude the RP with some dignity and then report.
       
    • Be ruthless with the quizzes. We shouldn't sell the server short, but place a high price on being able to play in Eclipse. 
      As older players leave or get removed, they need to be cycled out with newer, better role-players.
      If you do not a concept of how to create a character and portray that character, you can't play here.
      If you do not understand even the basic rules of this server before you enter it, you can't play here.
       
    • Personally, I'd really like for the head administrators or developers to come out with a clear vision of what they want Eclipse Roleplay to become in say the next 10 months and then we tailor every single rule update, script implementation, community directive and change to realising that vision and with that direction in mind rather than essentially trying to fight whatever the latest fire is. 

    I think the last one is especially important because it's something that affects all of us regardless of position, faction, status and history within the community.
    Rather than every corner of the server having it's own ideals and standards of how they think the server should be, if you have a central vision then inevitably it brings interested people together.

    That's how you go from having a role-play server to having a gaming community and ultimately, it's the latter that will always give you more enjoyment.

    I feel like this is the best and most heartfelt forum post i've written on Eclipse but I know there's people out there that fuck with this like I do as well.

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    • Factions that are not here to contribute towards the role-play, that have an over-reliance on shooting and create OOC tension within the community need to be disbanded or at the very least, their leaders replaced BEFORE the rot sets in.
      In my opinion, a faction is only as good as the person ultimately in charge.
       
    • Punishments for OOC toxicity need to be stronger and consistent.
      End of the day, if you don't have anything nice or constructive to say, you shouldn't say anything.
      I say that as someone that has been on their final warning for OOC attitude, for the last year.
       
    • Punishments for excessive local ooc (/b) and the passive aggressive #savepov mentality needs to get in the fucking bin.
      We all know only admins can stop a role-play situation. Constantly pulling a situation out of IC into OOC because you're AnGrY aNd UpSeT ruins what might potentially be a legitimate RP scenario.
      If you are going to report, conclude the RP with some dignity and then report.

     

    I agree with this, most of faction / players are here to shootout, i'm not even lying but thats what i feel.

    Punishment for OOC Toxicity need to be stronger and consistent, ofc. i've done report someone just because being racist towards me ICly ( Talking about my OOC thing in IC ) 
    nothing happens :D, but i dont care of it that much because it just a game.

    Excessive of /b hmmm, this back again to players, most of them using /b excessive just trying to find a reason to stop their RP and win the situation. i've been roleplaying with PD multiple times, the only excessive /b that i use because they're using bug for their advantage, the rest i roleplay everything that happens to my character, Car Crash, Injuries, Etc. 

    You dont fix roleplay quality by the script, but by the players itself.

    I'm gonna put it here again

    " No one is gonna care about your RP, about your /mes or /dos , because some people don't know how it works and some people don't know WHAT IT IS and HOW IT WORKS"

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  16. 2 hours ago, Solomun said:

    It's a toxic backlash cause the majority of those that create "The state of Criminal RP" have no substance or foundation from which they are speaking, it's just pure emotion with no thorough thought behind it, they don't know what they want, it's just pure collective group think with no utility to it, which has given threads like this a  bad name. I'm sure if you have actual suggestions that have been detailed out then I'm sure both the community and staff will be happy to debate on whether it should be added. 

    It's hard to have a constructive conversation about issues like these because of the emotion it creates, it will always just boil down to people that have no idea what they are saying and are just angry tthey aren't winning - "nerf pd lol" 

    Let me get this straight on this discussion, there's no The state of criminal RP on this discussion, i'm talking about the eclipse itself because i'm not only playing criminal RP, i also got a lot of friends from Civilian or Legal RP that have done hardcore Roleplay situation , textwise or voice-wise against me that complaining about the RP situation they got are different etc..

    Why i'm not put the actual suggestion here ? well, like i said, as a developer and founder of sa-mp there are difference between SA-MP and RageMP, but well if you want to hear the suggestion like what i apply on my own sa-mp server, ofc i'm gonna share it and i'm gonna put it here.

    First, we don't have "RP BEHAVIOR" towards RP situation, lets say. There's a police chase or police traffic stop or police shootout, looks around you and what players gonna do ? either it will makes you laugh or something else, meanwhile on heavy rp server, they will takes that RP event very serious and making the situation and environment feels like its REAL LIFE.

    The only ROLEPLAYER that i've play with and using /ame Correctly was Lewis Langley

    do you ever use your /ame like this ? 
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    The rest was only using /ame for Trolling etc.

    Do you ever done a hood brawl with another gang ?

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    Have you done this type of Roleplay ? a drive by pull up just because they messed up and fucked your hood and do a vigilante like this ?

    No, correct. because the majority of player on eclipse playing RP for fun but the "MANAGEMENT/STAFF MEMBER" of Eclipse Roleplay trying to enforce heavy and high quality of Roleplay. when the rules are not even supporting it.

    THE ONLY ROLEPLAY SCENARIO THAT AMAZE ME WAS THIS ( Even though it has less /mes and /dos the Voice RP thing makes it fun and realistic. )
     

    Stop enforcing heavy Roleplay into the server without filtering the player or the RULES itself. I'm proud of myself because i've been Roleplaying for almost 8 Years. so if you're really want ECLIPSE ROLEPLAY to become heavy Roleplay server, fix the branch then update the server script!

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  17. Hello Roleplayers, as NBDY notice us on discord to bring the "very lastest event" that happens on eclipse out of ECRP Discord to Forum.
    I would like to discuss about it here. FYI i want to talk the current state of Eclipse not PD vs CRIMS

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    The current state of eclipse roleplay right now is "dying of roleplay" lets not say "dying of player" because its not? i guess ?

    I've been roleplaying since 2013 on SA-MP, i don't know if its allowed to call the server name here but its SA-MP. i've been playing on NGG/NG-RP, i've been playing on LS-RP.
    Both server are different, NGG/NG-RP was Mid tier RP server, LS-RP is Heavy RP server. there are difference between both things.

    As i heard from lot of people that Eclipse trying to Enforce heavy roleplay into server by forcing them to do this and to do that, without letting time goes fly. as sa-mp developer and founder this is the most hard things to implement on the server because it based on the player itself. the only way to enforce rp quality on the server is improving textwise roleplay quality itself. because almost 10% player of eclipse RP doesn't care about your textwise roleplay such as /me's and /do's, 40% of players still dont know the use of /mes and /dos, the rest dont even know what /ame is. i'm not blaming the players on eclipse but thats the fact, or lets say 30% players of eclipse are hard core roleplayers.

    I think the only way to fix roleplay quality on eclipse server is by looking into this :
    -Server Rules
    -Management Team ( Staff Team ? ) I guess.
    -Roleplay quality of the players, lets start from Server Quiz then implement to the rest ? :shrug:
    -Official / Unofficial Legal or Illegal Faction Regulation.

    Having a good server script doesnt make everything looks good, if the rest of branch are broken.

    Thats all i'm trying to say after playing on eclipse since 2018.

    Cheers!


     

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  18. NEW BEGINNING
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    Gangster Disciples marked the city with a lot of story and history, after coming back from his business outside the city Revelt surprised after hearing 'GD' disbanded due to cartel problem. The Cartel wants to stop the 'Bloody War' between The Irish, The Triads vs Gangster Disciples, Los Aztecas and LFM. Revelt was so mad about what happened but no one brave enough to fight against The Cartel because they're the main power of the city.

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    Revelt moving forward after what happened to his family, looking for a new opportunity, new life, and a chance to survive in the city, He joined La Familia Michoacana, become a 'Recruit' of Cartel, he realized that become a Cartel Member is not that easy, his life been threatened by a lot of problem and mission. Securing Import, delivering import, and making sure everything is under control. Money, power, and connection are priorities.

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    Revelt has a strong personality in him, he knew that he could handle everything alone but without family, it wouldn't be perfect.


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    "Para siempre familia para siempre y pase lo que pase"
    Family forever for always and no matter what happens
     

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  19. On 11/21/2020 at 11:55 AM, Xoza said:

    Changing to +1

    What would this benefit though? Maybe a stamina system could be implemented?

    Well stamina system could be implemented as well, it could work for civilian roleplayer as well, increase fist damage or something for those RPer such as boxing event or something..

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