BigDaddySco

If I have answered that already then im not sure what else to say. The current system can be improved to allow for better and more in depth RP between crims and police, how that is done can be debated all day. But the current system is unrealistic and too much power lays solo in the cops hands.

Yeah perhaps we dont see that work behind the scenes but thats is part of the problem, if it were more like RL then there would be a chance for more extensive RP opportunities. Also, we cant provide evidence as we dont get to see evidence as stated. Its hard to fight against something you are unable to counter. Anyway, perhaps a court would be too much effort but an appeals court would provide that level of RP opportunity at least without as much work.

I will respond to this in more detail later. Not saying that I have all the answers but there is no denying that the current legal system can be vastly improved to improve the quality and depth of RP between cops and crims. The current Judge Dredd style doesnt work.

Thats part of the problem, they want to play a game which usually involves acting like a gang instead of a Police force. My experience with cops usually sees a very low standard of RP when really every single cop should have a very high standard of RP. Not only that but the interaction with cops should have more RP for all involved when it doesn't at all in my opinion and experience.

An appeal court could work too I guess. having the chance to appeal convictions and reverse fines etc could still expand the role play beyond how it is for now. This would probably lead to better RP from cops when collecting IC evidence and logging it etc. The court could have a booking system where available court dates can be booked through the forums or something. As I said im my previous response, I am sure if we had a legal faction people would jump at the chance to become a judge or lawyer. But as with anything it may take time to build up, who knows.

Yeah I agree, not every little case could and should when someone has been caught red handed. But serious offences that involve detectives etc then possibly. If a case requires collecting evidence and required investigation then it should definitely. But I would also say that cops in this city are too good and lobbing on every charge possible when sometimes there is no need for it. Ive lost count of the amount of times cops have bunged on very petty charges just because they can even though they make not much RP sense. These should at least be approved by a nigher up in Police faction and evidence to back charges should be presented to them at least. But for sure crimes that involve collecting RP evidence and require investigation by detectives should go through a court process. The whole point in all of this is to take judge, jury and executioner away from Police and provide much better RP for crimes. I am sure people would love to be part of a legal faction and work as a lawyer or judge etc and get paid for doing it on a character alt. High profile court cases could be covered by the media too which would make for better RP for them and Police would have to escort gang leaders to court etc too. The RP scenarios are endless with this type of system compared to what we currently have.

Perhaps you should comment with a better explanation instead of just no!

People on a RP server complaining about having to RP haha. I think people complain because there is little RP when being arrested though and that is what wastes their time. The main bulk of it is when you get to prison and have to deal with the guards when you first enter. Police involvement when being arrested gives very little RP. You listen to what they are charging you with, they provide no evidence and you sit there like a dummy until you are eventually transported to prison. The only RP is /do success or /do yes he can while youre being searched or some other weak RP scenario. The whole point of the suggestion made is to increase the RP situations as well as make it more like RL.

I would like to see the RP of cops in this city become more like RP and charges/convictions being based around evidence collection and not simply based on word or no evidence. For me, the cop experience is poor RP most of the time and cops play to win and act more like a gang than actual cops that are here to protect and serve. For me what I think would make RP better when dealing with cops would be the following: 1. All crimes should be investigated and backed up by collecting as much IC evidence linking you to a crime as possible. This could be collecting prints from weapons or other items, CCTV, Licence plates, tyre marks etc etc. This should all be done IC and collected and presented when making an arrest. 2. All evidence should be presented to a persons legal representative upon request. Since we lack legal representation in this city then we should be able to choose anyone (friends etc) to do this for us or choose to represent ourselves. 3. Cops tell us that IC evidence is completely confidential and as a Detective said, "The evidence is confidential and under no circumstances is anyone able to see it. Even if reported ICly, he would not be able to see the actual evidence." (This seem ludicrous to me, how can one defend themselves or be defended against evidence they cannot see, in RL a legal representative would be bale to view evidence. I also believes this could allow cops to make up fake evidence or allows them not to RP collecting any at all). 4. Bring in a courthouse and appoint city judges where evidence can be presented to the court and both sides of the story can be told. Allow judges to decide if the accused is guilty or not and if charges or some are to be dropped. RP is why we are all here and when dealing with cops RP only generally goes in one direction and that is the direction the cop wishes it to go and at the very least a single cop or detective should not be able to be judge, jury and executioner by himself. Its unrealistic unless we are RPing to be Judge Dredd

Open the jewellery store and add a store person that can be robbed just like a store can be BUT.... Also add in a drop off so that we can sell jewellery that we have to sell. With the new changes this can be jewellery that we have spare or jewellery that we rob from victims during RP robbery. Also, make the Police alert happen as soon as the store is being robbed and make the risk/reward high. When Police come we can negotiate our way out leading to some good RP or of course people can try to make their escape before Police come.

Rent with a friend or two then Or keep saving, work and buy one. If you cant make cash in the city then you are lazy... I started this server the same as everyone else, poor and broke. Now I have a 2g and about 6 Vehicles. I also just sold a vehicle for 1.1m. Find ways to make cash dude and grind and before you know it a month or two will pass and you will have your first 1m.

Massive + 1. I was sent to prison for 3.5hrs just for carrying a firearm and driving away from Police. This ruined all of my game time for the whole night and ended up in Prison with nothing to do. There is almost zero RP in Prison and you cant even go AFK. Eclipse has to start changing for the better. On one hand devs and admin want it to be more RL like but there is so much that goes against it being anywhere near this. In my opinion eclipse devs have gotten real lazy and I doubt it will be long before players ship off to Mafia or some other RP server. I think sometimes that we forget at the end of the day this is a game and for good RP we need more to do and uncapped jail time makes this even worse.

Big +1 Cops should have to stick to IC rules and promote good RP like anyone else.

May have an effect, who knows. Doesn't stop pawn shops from opening in RL and the point of this game is to mimic RL as much as possible after all. And to be fair, people already rob anyway, not sure how many people would go around robbing just to get a GPS or fishing rod etc. And im not saying they would be worth a lot, prices could be set by store owners so the chances are the items wouldnt sell for much but enough so that throwing them away is pointless.

Yeah but that would require being there... I mean a place like any of the drug drops offs or like the butcher etc. Just drop what you want to sell and sell it. Shop owners could have access to a panel where they could set the items that they buy and for how much. Then people drop and sell until that order is full. The shop owner can then sell those items in their shop.