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12 hours ago, GOAT said:
I covered this a little on my discussion topic but I feel like the way it's setup, if you a criminal and you're actively fighting people, punishments are almost a given at some point.
You only have to shoot somebody in the heat of the moment or not act a certain way when you've got a gun on you and six hours later on are on the forums six hours later explaining yourself.In PD, it's a lot easier. You just to have to be able to justify the use of force. You only shoot when you or someone else is in danger. You are never actively looking to kill someone, so there is a safety blanket there. Criminals don't have that and they will get into situations where it's kill or be killed but if they don't act right in that moment, they are screwed.
I do PD and WCA right now and I can only half-criminal, because any punishment I get will affect me on PD.
Depending on the punishment, I think if you go a certain amount of time staying out of trouble, you should be able to apply to get a punishment overturned, even if it was legitimate and the appeal was rejected. You don't want to let people off too easy but at the same time, they are more willing to work positively with a more considerate punishment system.
No reason why most player can't alter their behaviour and make amends for past mistakes. That being said if it's clear that a person can't conform to the rules of the server, they should be permanently banned and never allowed back. Playing with bad players, makes more bad players and a bad community.
The process must be reasonable and transparent, one we are all subject to and all aware of.
Pretty spot on to be honest. Having played from both perspectives its so easy to rack up punishments doing criminal RP.
And people saying it wont happen if you follow the rules its not always that simple. Its up to x admins interpretation of the rules to a certain point. I would also agree with the punishments voided being automatic if it did happen.
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36 minutes ago, Mopop said:
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As the first -1 just out of curiosity may I ask your thoughts on it?
2 hours ago, FatherOsborn said:no lol
I'm taking that as a +1
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Hello Phil McGee here
Having played on the server for quite some time and having seen the server population grow from at times where there was only 3 or 4 active players on the server I feel the serverity of the punishments dished out at the moment are too harsh.
Having joined the server not knowing much about RP at all I personally racked up quite a few infractions on my record in my initial few months. If I had joined the server since the new server rules changed id be 100% perma banned. At the time I wasn't even aware of the appeal procedure if I felt they were unfair. Personally I think the punishments dished out are far to severe and the fact they are permanently on your record and you might obtain 5 or 6 non RPs over a 3 year period means you could still be permanently banned. This if nothing demotivates people not to play or invest time if all the hours they put in RPing building up relationships can just be whitewashed with a simple mistake or rule break. And I think anyone can make such a mistake, either accidentally or intentionally in the heat of the moment.
When the most active parts of the forums seem to be the reports/ appeals section I think people are missing the point of RP.
The severity of the ban and the total lack of possibility of coming back leads people to do drastic things as we have seen this week. Obviously certain things like hacking etc should be an instant and perma ban etc.
So my solution to the above problem would have a formula that punishments on your panel Expire over a period of time played. For example if you have played X number of hours over X period of weeks /months, you would be eligible for Y infraction to be voided ( Not removed from your panel but made non active).
Thats my thoughts on it anyway.
Cheers Phil
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1. I'm strawberry blonde
2. I don't recall doing anything of the sort.
3. Cavity search incoming!
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I waited , you did not turn up in the hat. Offer retracted.
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Well I'd like to see the setting up of personal drug labs in house's and buildings. Should obviously come with a massive pro/con balancing. For example, yeah you are less likely to be robbed but the expense of running one is quite extreme and if you get caught your equipment gets confiscated. You'd also need to source your own ingredients for RP purposes.
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1.5 Million
If you accept this offer stand outside the house at 7am wearing a pink hat turning clockwise at 5 second intervals.
I will be watching.
This is a serious offer.
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Normally there is a decent visual boundary line that makes sense, small wall or a fence so if you bought an apartment for example then I see no viable option for building besides a light or CCTV on the wall outside your door.
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-1 Personally I go somewhere private enough like an alley or something to log off but if I had an emergency Id log in plain view without even considering it. If you want to RP going home and getting into your bed then more power to you.
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+1 Turfs were great craic.
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-1 And no surprise the suggestion comes from the most trigger happy group on server.
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You should have to RP having a paper round on a bmx for a month to get it wiped.
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It was recommended a longggggggg time ago in Feb of 2018 but was shut down.https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/5770-binocularstelescope/?tab=comments#comment-25729
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-1 Hire a doorman and RP some crowd control.
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Huge -1 . Not slagging off the US but most Europeans are Bi-Lingual and its common enough to speak up to 3 different languages. Sure English might not be their native tongue, but I can guarantee you from speaking to some people its not far off and in some cases better than native speakers.
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haahh -1 , The poor cadet thats standing in the reception answering questions about tickets would be traumatized.
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Ok
So it seems a lot of the engagement rules have changed but specifically the KOS 24hr rule seems to have vanished. In the server rules the DM section makes no reference to KOS but the kidnapping section does ie 3 hours. So which is it?
Players are allowed to kidnap or to take other players hostage for these specific reasons:
• You have to have a roleplay reason to kill the victim in accordance with the KoS rule under DM.\
Personally from a pure reality perspective it would make no sense to be attacked ,then retreat to go get a gun and come back and announce to a group "im going to kill you now, do you hear me via text and voice, please confirm that you have heard me. OK you need to comply, oh look your friends have turned up but you didnt talk on the radio. And now im outnumbered 40 to 1" etc etc etc What kind of RP is that? Why shouldn't I be able to box smart if I am attacked by larger numbers and implement guerrilla warfare tactics, not that I feel it should be war in the city.
Also I feel if KOS is removed it will just to lead to a case of who can rob who first. Which is a terrible experience for people who want to play a semi legal lifestyle.
So if it is to be removed I think it would be better to revert to the 30 min window of KOS.
Thanks
Phil
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Cracking idea, it would be great to see possible mini games in the stands that can be player owned also. +1. Dibs on being a fortune teller.
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On 2/25/2019 at 11:22 PM, Darnell said:
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This turns the reports into a fight, where each side tries to get the other into trouble as much as possible. The report should have an accuser, and a defender. If the reporters broke a rule, a separate report should be made.
That is a waste of resources in my opinion and its just plain lazy. For example I selected a report at random just to see its contents which already had an admin response. In the accusers footage his driver ramps off an upper story stunt jump on his bike. Now obviously whomever the driver is, is committing a rule breach AKA stunt jumps but will he punished, probably not. Sure it happens in some cases, but its not consistent across the board and therefore unfair on the community.
https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/15335-id-52-78-combat-and-roleplay-logging/
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8 hours ago, Xoza said:
Signs or perm / placable notes would be great also.
+1 to this as a underwear billboard of Phil McGee is long overdue.
+1 to the original idea.
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Just now, ThePro said:
I could record it. Yes. But do you think that I came here to record every rule breaker, and then report them.. And do this all day? Not really... I came to RP. If I would want to fight against rule breakers all day, I would join the Admin Team. The second thing is... How would they know who did do the KOS? I mean, the ID is always random and there is no other way they could find out who was it... At least nothing I would know about.
Well if your not willing to use the tools in place to change the player base you can't really complain.
Just now, ThePro said:The second thing is... How would they know who did do the KOS? I mean, the ID is always random and there is no other way they could find out who was it... At least nothing I would know about.
They can check who the player is based off the time.
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8 minutes ago, ThePro said:
And yes. I did report these type of people but the admin team just seems like it's dead.
You need to record your footage and report so. Unless you gifting people KOS with your behaviour by not knowing what does give them KOS etc.
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If you are still getting killed even though you comply with the robbery then it's DM. Report them and drain the swamp of players like that.
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