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  1. 2 hours ago, lenx said:

    I have additional thoughts to add. After reading these replies, it's clear this thread is getting a little derailed. I'd like to try and bring it back on track and point out real issues.

     

    The police get a free pass for powergaming in general.

     

    That's a bold claim, I know, but let me explain...

    This is either a straight up lie or you are oblivious to what your fellow officers are doing.

    If I'm to understand correctly with the new changes to PD, normal officers aren't meant to be walking around with shotguns and SMGs. They are meant to be stored in the cruiser until they need them. However, they aren't doing that.

    Just earlier today at the car meet, normal police officers showed up with shotguns and SMGs. They did not RP taking them from their vehicles (They didn't RP anything at all). I asked them in character what the deal was, "Since when do beat cops carry around SMGs?" and his response was "I'm on passive SWAT" or something like that, to which I replied "That's horse shit you're just a police officer. How can you be SWAT and a normal cop at the same time? how does that make sense?" to which he pretty much just started ignoring me.

    That's when I called him out in OOC about the weapon in the back, and then his story changed. Apparently it was "RPly in his vehicle?" How does that work? He has it equipped on his back, I can literally see it. Why would it ever be "RPly" in the vehicle when he can physically put it in there. I guarantee if i were to pull out my SMG that I actually had RPly in my bag, he would not have ran to his car and RP'd taking it before slaughtering me.

    THIS IS CLEAR POWERGAMING.

     

    Normal police officers should never be allowed to go on passive swat duty (whatever the fuck that is). If there are no SWAT online, then deal with it. Stop giving the LSPD all of these tools to powergame in order to force advantageous scenarios. Passive SWAT and the 1 shot kill revolvers need to be REMOVED.

    Evidence (No RP of unlocking their weapon and retrieving it from the cruisers were performed)

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    Bonus (id 48 with shotgun)

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    Members of PD don't have access to the MP5 unless they are manually asigned to a group. From what I see the officer was following the protocol, except the part with the weapons being in the car, which I will speak to him about. 

  2. One of the reasons we use teamspeak is because in game radio is not enough and will fill up with chatter when 3 different situations are going on, a hostage situation, a pursuit and a shootout. All this will just fill the in-game radio up with chatter.

  3. 1 hour ago, DISCO said:

    since the discussion thread was closed (it was constructive with all the facts and evidence) and this thread comments shows the same attitude from the PD stance, it shows that PD has no intention of changing themselfes while showing community a big middle finger.

     

    Shame on you.

    I clearly gave a well constructed answer and slandering a whole faction is worse than anything you described. 

  4. 16 hours ago, Bucolic_6 said:

    By our rules they are not allowed to do that. The sniper is an active deployment weapon only. 

     

    The MP5 is not a weapon allowed to be used by a Police Officer 1 either. 

     

    About your new suggestion, police officer 1 is not a rank eligible to apply for divisions. SWAT requires you to be a PO II at least. 

    Obviously our SWAT members are supposed to keep up high rp standards and respond to fear rp properly if rp’d well. If you however, see any officer breaking any server rules or you think an officer is abusing their power or taking out weapons they’re not supposed to, you always have the chance to report said officer. We try to keep High RP standards here in PD. 

     

    I hope I was able to clarify a few things for you!

    The thing is that the sniper requires a certification and is really rearly used, as we are not allowed to use it in every situation. 

    There is no way a PO I can have an MP5, MP5 can only be used by SWAT members and we do not recruit people left and right, not even one third of PD is in SWAT. 

    PD has been nerfed more than enough, our cruisers barely go up to 194 and the supercars that we have to chase supercars are slower than the cruisers... 

    Armor is nerfed, and people on duty have around 30 armor while SWAT has 60.

    Our MDC has also been nerfed as well as the new policy that we need to do a command to open the weapon inventory to give us weapons. And we have like 200 ammo in it, that is barely enough in situations as we are constantly outnumbered. 

    At this point I think PD is as balanced as it gets and if you lose 1 fight, doesn't mean that PD is OP. At the end of the day, RP is not about constant shootouts and if you win or not, it's about interaction and describing your actions and having fun. 

  5. Just now, King Tom said:

    i have a picture of the swat before they came and mowed everyone down

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    We opened fire because we got shot at. You clearly don't know what happened. And how is this relevant to the discussion? Trying to be funny?

  6. 1 minute ago, King Tom said:

    go play as a Crim for a while, without anyone knowing you're an admin. you'll see the shit half the server goes through.

    I have 3 criminal characters. And I never show I'm an admin.

    I'm out. Won't be sending more comments here. No point to argue any of this.

  7. Just now, JayGamble said:

    How on earth could you not see that as relevant to the thread? We're literally talking about officers that don't really play by the rules. What?

    The topic in this thread is police and admin corruption as you can see by the title.

  8. 6 minutes ago, JayGamble said:

    I also think it's pretty comical you try and needle me with the whole 'basic' knowledge thing, when your crew participates in activities like such; solid police work.
     

     

    Parties involved for said actions have received a disciplinary from PD High Command for display of RP not up to par with PD standards. If you feel like any server rules were violated, please post a report. I don't see how this video is relevant to the discussion in this thread.

  9. 3 minutes ago, King Tom said:

    It's literally the fact you guys pull up to drug labs with no reason to? like how did you find it? very convenient how you always know where it is etc. unless you have been called to it or something i dont think you should be able just to rock up and ruin peoples fun since the location doesn't change like a chop shop does.

    We know where it is, and I have never seen someone come to a drug lab without a call. Most of the time, there are calls from the exact location of the drug labs.

  10. Just now, JayGamble said:

    I didn't walk towards you, i stood on top of a car. I wasn't in a position to stab you, nor even see the back of you. I just don't feel I would be fearful; if you think that's me admitting to breaking fearRP, by all means; but my emotion due to your blatant lack of disregard to the situation clearly superseded my 'fear' trigger at that time. You're not allowed to bring patrol units to a scene, to enforce the street laws and maintain crowd control?

    It was clearly not a ''crowd control'' situation considering how many shots were fired.

  11. 7 minutes ago, JayGamble said:

    I never mentioned running a gopro, nor would I comply with questionable unlawful acts; you had no right to put a carbine in my face, or ask me to get on the ground in the first place so why would I fear for my life there? I exercised my rights, and if you guys had a true reason to 'bully' me into submission you would have, versus me walking away from the scene without even being questioned. You don't need 20-30 police to combat that, but there were numerous officers on at the time, but you guys rolled in with the cowboy squad, without any backup. There were clearly a larger police force present as they arrived after many people had been shot.
     

    So if the demands are unlawful, you're not gonna fear for your life? You have a Carbine Rifle pointed point blank at you for walking up to me while I'm working, I couldn't know if you were gonna stab me, hit me from behind or put a bullet in the back of my head. You're literally admitting to breaking fear RP here, and your excuse is that the demands were ''unlawful''. Excuse me, but the server has their own laws, and pulling some lawyer talk here means nothing. And about the number of players... You literally quoted a text where I clearly say, that we ARE NOT ALLOWED to take regular units on calls like that. They arrived after almost no threat was left.

  12. 6 hours ago, DISCO said:

    Drug lab destroying - big powergaming. Phone tracking - big powergaming. PD has so much tools, they even have cars going faster than the supercars and they still are terrible. I believe they are going nearly to 240km/h. There is a meme car on other server, which is taco bus with two jet engines with afterburners at the back, which goes up to 150mph, which is exactly 240km/h. Funny, isnt it? They get everything spawned and they have unlimited resources, they fail to maintain and value their job vehicles, even when they have huge advantages over other players and they continue to ask more tools for them. Stop it. Learn to drive, learn to value your car. The power of undefeatable PD with the help of the admin should stop, because the numbers of player base are decreasing already mainly due to these things stated above. 

     

    PD has gotten everything nerfed. Their cruisers barely go 190, and their regular cruisers go faster than their supercars that they can take out. And I don't see how drug lab destroying nor phone tracking is powergaming...

  13. And also yeah, I missclicked the person we were about to arrest with a sniper, I revived him and apologized in a PM. I told every single SWAT member to leave him alone for a minute and give him a chance to run away, but he chose not to and to stay at the party.

  14. Just now, JayGamble said:

    Wouldn't you guys barging into a place of 45ish people, most of which are armed be considered a lack of fearRP? I'm not sure a team of four SWAT members would be able to overpower a a party of such magnitude, even if we weren't armed; we could physically just disarm you with such a large showing, no? 

    We did not have more SWAT members online then. No one showed that they have guns and no one approached us with them either, you simply were just arguing on words and being extremely rude when having a carbine to your face screaming ''I have a go pro recording this bla bla bla'' instead of actually complying and fearing for YOUR life. I have never seen more than 30 people online in PD at once, and that was when an academy was going on, so like 10/30 of the players were actually on duty. I have never seen more than 20 people on duty on patrol at once, and then again, we can't let regular units go into a party were potentially heavy guns could be shot. Police is outnumbered any day, and if we would always consider numbers, there would be no point of us even existing.

  15. 8 hours ago, MrUntouchable215 said:

    Hello, Shotty Johnson here

      First I want to say, this post I'm making is the reason why I actually dislike when Admins play the game as normal players. All of this is honestly getting old, from the petty ass arrests to the Admins piling up in PD and going Admin mode in the middle of a confrontation. Today Zetas were hosting a house party and although there was no drama, no gun fights, no shots fired at the time, swat pulls up and immediately snipes one guy and tells everyone to get on their knees. Within this process, they put me in handcuffs and on my knees and left me completely alone, allowing people to go into my inventory as much as they wanted and then got me on an illegal gun charge when an enemy gang legit placed a pistol in my inventory. Then to top it all off, the guy puts me in the car and while in the middle of shots being fired off by everyone, he still has me dragged and drags me into gun fire.  If that wasn't bad enough, they didn't even RP the prison situation either. They flew me in and put me in a cell, no jumpsuit changing or anything, so I'm in prison while I'm street clothing rply.

      I say that not as a report, but as an example of the absolute fuckery that's been going on, on top of turning such a fun RP experience into a massive shootout for literally no solid reasons. There was no RP of any warrants or anything while coming onto someone's private property. Every single day people are getting pulled over by cops and the RP is absolutely shit, half the time they don't even read you your rights and take you to prison for the dumbest reasons. I'm getting real sick of Admins turning from PD to Admin in the middle of a confrontation because he doesn't want to get robbed.

      Criminals are always so limited, our ways of making cash stem from robbing people, stores and drug labs with no real end goal or incentive. We can't even rob stores at night because PD is basically empty during that time frame. You can't rob officers that are riding by themselves because it's "non-RP". At least the other factions have some sort of goal to them. PD arrested criminals and are "supposed" to uphold the law, DCC has a taxi service, LSC and Bayview repairs cars, etc. Criminals can't do half the shit in the city properly because of PD being so inflated by Admins. Do you guys want RP or realism? You made it perfectly clear that realism isn't the goal, yet keep trying to push for it. 

    Here's an example of a situation that literally just occured. @marcoD and @nateX can perhaps shed some light on this for me. There were four of us attempting to pull over two officers in order to rob them, we asked them to pull over multiple times and they kept driving, so we kept attempting (Didn't even fire yet) and both Marco and Nate pause the situation, claiming that we can't rob an officer because it's non RP. Saying we don't have a reason when he literally doesn't know shit and instead of sticking around to discuss it further, they both dissapear and we're just supposed to stop from there. Normal people get robbed every single day, yet I hear no complaints for non RP by saying "You guys don't have a reason to rob me". You're alone, no real back up and you're surrounded with guys in masks, you shouldn't be robbed because you're PD? That's so one sided and unfair, it's not even funny. I had another Admin tell me that all of the factions are equal and if we want to rob someone, we don't need confirmation for Admins or anyone else to attempt to do it. It's like you guys are forgetting that we're still playing a game at the end of the day, no matter how much RP you want, you can't remove that one fact. If there's 5 Officers online, I can't act like there's 10000 of them sitting around. PD should have to show power just like the gangs do if you want criminals to listen to you. You can't always be weak and expect wolves not to eat you. You have body armor, heavy weapons, some of the fastest cars on the server, handcuffs, tasers, swat with armored vehicles, yet Admins still have to get involved? Please explain this to me.

     

    P.S. Crack, Meth, Heroin, LSC, etc is NOT made by using weed plants.

    Hello, I do not really see the point with this rant, but sure, I will reply. 

    So, the party situation was initially made because a person on the party was actively selling and bragging about having an AK with a silencer on it. So... We called in a SWAT situation and arrested the man with the AK, we were constantly surrounding people and when told to back off while we were pointing a carbine at them, they simply just walked straight at us. They came close enough to smell the barrel of my carbine, which is lack of Fear RP. After arresting two me, we were about to leave, but people decided to start shooting at us, which lead to at least 7-10 people getting shot. 

    The situation with the robbery, we were next to you hearing through your conversation after we got a report about that you were following an officer for minutes, which is not the smartest idea to begin with. So, we walk up next to you and hear the person in the elegy next to you saying ''Let's kill him, if we say killing him, that means let's go to the dam''. This gives me the picture as that you were literally just searching for reasons to kill a random officer. When we paused the situation, we simply asked you, what was the reason for trying to kill him, because the party is not a valid one. You replied with ''Fuck do you mean I don't have a reason'' and were simply showing attitude throughout the situation.

    Have a good day.

  16. Hello, @Pretty Fat Girl and welcome to Eclipse Roleplay! We are very happy to have you here and hopefully you will enjoy your stay in our community!

     

    Here are useful links to have in case you need any help.

    Link to Discord server

    Our newly made application guide

    New player setup guide

    The NCZ guide - to get a visual representation of what our No Crime Zones look like.

    The server rules guide video

     

    Again, we are very happy to have you here and hope you enjoy your stay! Have fun!

     

    Sincerely,

    - nateX

    Staff team of Eclipse Roleplay

     

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