Caution for Suspended Licenses & Law / Script REFORM! ((Should you be tracked down due to suspended license?))

[WeezyBaby]

((This story is explaining why, I am making this suggestion))

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As I got on the server today, I finished out a sentence. After my time was up, I headed back to the city to get my vehicles. Finding out that My license was suspended and I wouldn't be able to get my vehicles out of impound. So I decided instead of walking around the map, Ill use my stashed vehicle. After getting my stashed Vehicle, I went and parked over at LSC with my vehicle's rear end facing a brick wall, license plate not in front. I went AFK, so to speak, I was actually donating for some credits. Then I came back to two officers at my vehicle, while it was parked. Asking for my license, I already knew what was going on. But what didn't make sense was how the officers ID'd me without seeing my ID. They also haven't seen this car with the new paintjob I got after my last escape, & KEEP in MIND I NEVER showed the LSC mechanics my license. Anyways, the officers got my license, and arrested me due to having a suspended license, without any prior probable cause, I wasn't on the run from cops or anything, as stated I was "parked and car off".

 

CONCERN:

Is that cops have unrealistic, scripted advantages over citizens and criminals. As stated in my story, there was no realistic events leading up to my arrest for "driving while suspended", also IRL I have had my license suspended 5+ times, not bragging, but relating to realism of the server. I've never in my life, been tracked down due to a suspended license, nor were cops ever informed about me getting into a vehicle they haven't seen before and pulled me over while I was parked, especially without probably cause.(This is IRL im talking about) 

My concern is that cops have a way of tracking people down, in manners that aren't used realistically. If someone committed murder or robbery and left evidence behind, Id understand that they could probably get tracked somehow. But when it comes to having a suspended license and not leaving any trace of it, say maybe showing mechanic ur license while suspended as an example of leaving behind evidence with a suspended license, you shouldn't be able to get found anywhere you are even if phone is on or off.

   

 

SUGGESTION:

Make the tracking of people with suspended license, realistic. Don't allow the script to pinpoint locations of people with minor offenses, even those with major... if the cops doesn't know your name, know your vehicles, or phone number, or any obviously evidence; IC by finding it out within a realistic roleplay situation, then they should not have any way of tracking your exact location or even remote area. 

If you are going to give the cops the ability to track anyone with any kind of offense, make it realistic. Have them question surrounding people in the area, actually make a crime scene, instead of just walking up to a person they never seen before IC and automatically knowing they have an offense, just because they get script advantages. IRL cops don't even know if the person they are talking to has a warrant or not, it comes down to questioning and interrogation, witnesses. 

 

BEGGING THE WHOLE STAFF:

Give the players who love GTA a chance to realistically become a Criminal Character, Minor or Major offenses, shouldn't be completely trackable. Give the Cops something to really work for and give the other side of the server a chance to grow and expand, not everyone wants to work at a oil rig on a game or road work, its just not entertaining for everyone. Its also a real fucking drag when you go to jail for literal hours at a time due to certain offenses, why would you want the people of this community to truly sit in a pixelated cage for hours of their real lives, to scold them for something that the server allows. If someone broke an IG rule like MG/FearRP/Vdm... then yess make them wait in jail for hours. But at MAX you should give someone like an hour in jail, if they commit murder or something IG. It deters a lot of people from wanting to do the things that are actually fun to do on servers like create a gang or do a heist or whatever, instead of working at some mine getting virtual ore too sell, this aint Minecraft Factions! No offense and I know a lot of work goes into the server, but I feel that there is a lack of consideration for those who aren't in law enforcement. Half of those who are in Law enforcement dont even roleplay, they all have Keybinds and bullshit to make them super cops and completely makes them look right in any roleplay situation, causing most of police interactions to be repetitive and none unique, as they call in there commands with rapid response rates that aren't realistic, due to keybinds and everything else. This went off on rant, but all of it ties in together, POLICE ARE OP!!! 

 

CLOSING NOTE:

To sum everything up, at least allow those with a suspended license or a minor criminal charge, have a chance to realistically live their lives. Police shouldn't be in tune with every move someone makes, without having properly established a roleplay scenario beforehand. Give people with warrants and chance to know they have a warrant, maybe allow them to go to a lawyers office and pay a little extra to clear the warrant and pay off any fines(for minor offenses) Half the time people dont even know they a warrant for them, which IRL you would know right away. If people have a suspended license, they should be able to get SR-22 insurance IG or have some alternative way of getting the suspensed reduced or license renewed, maybe have people take the test again if they want their license back before the suspension is over. That way people aren't stranded walking the huge map alone.

 

 

Please Take no Offense as I am just trying to enlighten the Support Team of this Server, into seeing things from a common point of view, that I could say half the population on the server could agree with, Eclipse isn't just a place to come chill and get a legal job and hang out, for some people its about making the unimaginable happen, of which they can't do IRL. So they have expectations of being able to make their dreams come true on here, but in the beginning or even close to the end, the ECLIPSE LSPD is OVERPOWERED!!! PLEASE TAKE NOTE, The Players, the Citizens, the Criminals, and even the cops need your help and true attention. There are so many posts concerning about the way things go and they shouldn't be ignored, a lot of the servers player base comes from Citizens and Criminals, who are just being abused at the end of the day, almost being forced to work at an Oil rig or do Road work, which is NOT FUN!!! Sure it can be socializing, but people want to have fun.  

[Hector2Fingers]

This seems like an IC issue to me.  I very highly doubt that you were traced because of your suspended license.  I can tell you that scriptly, police do not have a list of everyone who has a suspended license.

Seems like your character just had a wrong place/wrong time type issue happen.  More than likely, someone who was involved in your arrest happened to be at LSC and noticed you or your vehicle, and they remembered that you were recently arrested and had a license suspension.

License suspensions were already cut in half recently as it used to be 48 hours.  I think the suspension length is good as is for now.  You don't get a license suspension every time you get arrested.  There are certain IC protocols in when to and when to not suspend a license of someone.

[WeezyBaby]

Thank you for giving me the insight on how the script works when it comes to the list of people. I would hope that it was something that happened completely IC. But to me it seemed too good to be true, considering I was in an alternate vehicle of which I've never been arrested in and I normally name the cops that have seen me. None of the cops that were arresting me, have I recognized. Maybe they knew me, but as you said... they dont have a list with everyone's name that has a suspended license, so why would they just approach my vehicle and randomly ask for my license before asking other people? Seems like they knew OOC or they got some major TIP IC, letting them know where I was what car I was driving and that I had a suspended license. Because they didn't arrest me for anything else, but being parked with a suspended license.  Also I was just let out of jail a bit ago, so I shouldnt of had any warrants or anything, that may have caused a tracker to be placed on me. I wasn't committing any active crimes or anything prior to them approaching me, also as stated I was parked and actually AFK on the donation screen, with my license plate to the wall, in a vehicle I've never been arrested in, especially with the new paintjob. I just still don't understand how they had probable cause to randomly come up to me and ask for my license, without giving any properly structed roleplay prior to my arrest. Simply just walked up said let me see license and boom went to jail, because they knew it was me sitting there with a suspended license, somehow. 

 

If Im mistaken please correct me, Im just not too positive they weren't tracking me somehow or given a red flag as to my location or vehicle or something?

Just very curious on how and if the script plays a role into Law Enforcement and if they are given unfair advantages due to Script help, of which they should only be able to find out majority of these things truly in character. 

If people are tracked by their cellphone's they should be allowed to switch cellphone's and phone numbers to at least stand a chance, if being tracked that way. Something points these cops in the precise direction of their perp.

 

If I'm wrong or mistaken please correct me, but my concerns are lively.

[Hector2Fingers]

Definitely understand your concerns on this.  Looking into it a little further, I can tell you that you most certainly were not traced.  None of the officers involved in your arrest even have the script ability to trace suspects.  There are also several IC protocols in place when tracing is allowed and when it is not.  I also can tell you from a glace that my hunch was correct, and one of the officers on scene of your initial arrest was also there when you were arrested for driving without a license.  

So just turns out to be bad IC luck for you in this instance.

[BlueFlame]

Please delete

Edited November 4, 2022 by Shadyar8023
Included ic info

[TheCactus]

Some people evade cops and commit crimes the minute they come out of DOC. The 24h suspension is for that kind of people and will flag them as people that should not be driving a car so they can't get their cars out the impound lot just to cause trouble as soon as their sentence ends, or at least make it difficult. Maybe you are not that kind of guy but the law is the same for everyone.

Edit:
I assure you that nobody's wasting their time tracing you for a stupid license. Regards.

Edited November 4, 2022 by TheCactus