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2 minutes ago, MrSilky said:
I am not being hostile in the slightest, I am just hoping to steer this discussion into a factual one - and when you state you have had multiple IA reports ignored when there are none on record, I want to clarify that.
Do you have multiple accounts? I would like to review these reports you claim to have made to ensure they were dealt with in a fair manner - if they exist of course!
No Mr Silky San I do not have multiple accounts as I have not used the GOV site in many months since I quit playing my "legal" character, but I wish I could provide you with all the IA's i helped my friends file that were met with No moving forward and all "hearsay" responses unless we as crims run a dashcam or bodycam 24/7 as we do our criminal activities to then maybe file IA's against police officers to a branch of said PD we are reporting.
And come on if you wanna be hostile just admit it, we do not need to hide behind the staff persona of being a robot with no emotions to avoid getting a talking to about behavior on forums, if you feel personal about these rants being brought up about a department you personally have a connection with no one here is gonna hold that against you (if people do they cringe and need to grow up) we are all human with emotions that can be strong hence why reading some of my responses I can tell I wrote them with intent and anger in my heart. and I apologize if I too come off as rude or hostile, but I enjoy this server and playing it, just there is a lot of changes to be made to many different avenues. I am just I guess very passionate about a server in the recent months I have just not enjoyed playing like i used too.
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Just now, MrSilky said:
Hi there,
I run the LSPD Internal Affairs and I have just searched all of your posts on the gov website and cannot find a single IA submission. I assume you have multiple gov accounts?
Look forward to your response.
I have made multiple IA's against officers in the past and was met with no response or very little in terms of moving forward with the IA, so I stopped making IA's as its useless and in hindsight criminals that rob banks and shoot people making IA's is NONRP in itself so I resorted to taking it IC and kidnapping or murdering said officer I feel as though did me wrong, to then only be met with poor escalation conversations and baby rage so I know I just sit and complain on a forum thread and "take everything on the chin"
And a lot of other peoples IA's are ones I help them make as I was there but I do not make IA's cause it does not suit my current character in any way with the shit I do on a daily basis.
Weird to come off so hostile about your precious LSPD and come at me with a passive aggressive comment such as "I assume you have multiple gov accounts, look forward to your response" like I'm in a player report or something if you run the IA division please in the future take your IA reports more seriously and actually listen to people.
Thank you for your input silky
Look forward to your response.
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2 minutes ago, DoTo said:
I really don't see the point of these threads, they are clearly not meant to be constructive suggestions but rather merely seeking affirmation in complaints from the playerbase with an unknown purpose whilst sparking heated circlejerk arguments between two parts of the server that heavily rely on each other to function.
I think these complaints are better formulated into singular suggestions that are not entirely focused on "buff crim" or "nerf pd" or vice versa.
The status quo of the crim/cop dynamic isn't perfect, it probably isn't even good, but this is a two edged sword. The blame for this can't be shifted onto either party in any way.
There's issues with the realism of criminal roleplay just as there is issues with the realism of law enforcement roleplay, these aspects unfortunately don't play out very well against one another.
And by the way, if you have issues with particular roleplay, tactics, situations or particular players on a LEO side, there are more avenues that you can take these complaints which are rarely used, and I don't really understand why.
There is the possibility to make OOC IA reports for roleplaying issues that aren't necessarily server rule breaks.
SD also has a roleplay feedback form on the government website that, to this day, unfortunately, no one has ever used. We'd be more than happy to look at particular things anyone might have an issue with in terms of realism/roleplay standards etc.No there just is not, I have made IC and OOC IA reports that fall on deaf ears and never receive a response or they receive a response a month later and I have already lost footage or cant even remember the situation.
SD had a roleplay feedback from that has not been used cause Ima be real I have 0 complaints from SD if anything i would rather interact with SD every single time then PD
If i can post POSITIVE roleplay feedback with that form let me know and Ill start using it as SD are doing it right lowkey
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1 minute ago, arcangel said:
Constructive suggestions are welcomed.
I wouldn't be apposed to requiring us to refuel, perhaps limiting how many cruisers 1 unit can pull out per hour. I do think the best thing for the server as a whole at the moment is to develop/overhaul the DOC.THIS PLEASE
HELP CHUNDER WITH SCRIPT SUPPORT ITS ALL WE ASK FOR
I do not mind going to prison IF THERE ARE THINGS TO DO
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12 minutes ago, TheCactus said:
You lost me at 4 then I read 7 and yup. As some people said defo skill issue. Learn to clap
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10 minutes ago, Valor said:
If the crim roleplayers on the server (Not all, but most) cared about anything other than farming W's in their paragons & Issi's I would take this more seriously, but unfortunately all anyone wants to do is clap and evade, I really just don't see your point.
I do agree that DOC time is too much, anyone who doesn't agree probably doesn't play crim or have a full-time job, but the point stands that if we reduce the time, the crims that never care and just go to DOC 3 times a day, will now just be doing the same thing they do 6 times a day. Sorry but letting crim roleplayers go too crazy just makes it completely unfun for us, there are lots of criminal factions that we barely have to interact with but when we do it's alot of fun (usually for both sides) because they play it smart and act like actual criminals.
I say skill issue because Anakin, I have personally arrested you probably 10-15+ times, you're literally constantly in /b after YOU choose to shoot up cops, and half the time its over something so small. I'm not saying I don't agree with some points but at this point you just seem to be cluelessly ranting about factions you know nothing about. I've been on the server since 2018, I was in Zetas and one of the 3 founders of Zetas, and I have tried crim many times in the last year, but frankly, every interaction I have with other crims is the exact same but in different colors.
As for realism, no-one is against us paying for our own cruisers and having things cost (But I have only ever died 4 times in the year I've been a cop, so again, we won't lose shit so if you think that will change anything for you, you're in for a rude awakening), and I am sure that the only reason this isn't a feature at this point, is because it would involve a lot of scripting and solve 0 of the complaints. and no criminals just run around an entire state in colors in 15 man convoys blatantly saying "WE ARE HERE WE ARE HERE, PLEASE FIND SOMETHING TO ARREST US FOR". They stay in their own turf and mind their own damn business.
Edit:TL;DR - I agree that things should be easier for crims to access, and I agree that DOC time should be reduced, but I also think that the way criminals act on this server would make it a 24/7 warzone if we made it easier. (There are lots of civilian roleplayers who don't want to get robbed and shot up 24/7, When I was in Zetas thats all we did was just rob everyone and smoke everyone, and it just wasn't fun for them)
The thing is ALOT OF criminal rp's do not WANT to act this way, but are forced to due to how other bigger crim orgs are "running the city" and forcing these smaller groups to react to things, we are all not blind to the fact that we can see who is here to RP and who is here to shoot then logout its obvious. But as you said its impossible to RP with other orgs that just want "the smoke 24/7", Just recently we had a altercation with a group who "felt offended that we did not have a meeting with them" after we have been a thing for like 1 week, and are now being "hunted" and harassed on a daily basis because this group "felt offended". Just makes the server not enjoyable to play.
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2 minutes ago, Cyrus Raven said:
and I support your willingness to complain about this. You don't have to follow my advice, but what I would do is focus on threads that clearly outline issues with criminal RP without making it a PD vs Crim thread, I don't think it helps and ultimately you end up alienating people that would otherwise probably agree with some of the larger points you have to make.
very true, It is just number 1 mad annoying to lose things I have worked weeks to obtain and grind for to a bullet sponge that spawned stuff in, but making it less annoying to obtain or easier to make money TO obtain is just not in the ballpark of things people would want to do, because then cops and other people get shot more, reports skyrocket cause as said earlier by the man dezzy, people weaponize the player reports.
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2 hours ago, Valor said:
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This is a skill issue. Stop trying to fight cops all the time, criminals don't run from cops and shoot at them on a daily basis.
Come on valor, I must live in the worst place in America or something cause this is a normal occurrence in the area I live. New report of an officer injured in a shooting almost bi daily
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8 minutes ago, Cyrus Raven said:
Sure, if there is an imbalance in weapon damage, you can make a suggestion addressing this issue.
This is an issue with backup rules as I mentioned (one which I agree with). PD/SD having nothing to do with this, advocate for a change in the current backup rules.
Like I mentioned, I agree with you and I doubt most would be against making PD/SD own their vehicles and maintain them.
Like I mentioned, I agree with you and I doubt most would be against making PD/SD buy their own equipment. But this goes back to what I said, this is an RP server, there will likely never be a situation where PD/SD is all out of money and unable to enforce the law.
Your issue is likely not being able to afford weapons/armour without it being very costly as a criminal, which is why you rarely see crims using body armor or even heavies. PD/SD having to pay for equipment won't change anything significantly from your side of things.
Me and Others have complained about all these topics in many different posts but are met with the same of "NHA CAUSE REALISTICALLY PD CAN CALL OTHER CITYS DEPARMENTS AND REQUEST ADDITIONALS IF THEY NEED BE" Ok cool so I can hitup the other street gang across the street for help with the police. No response after, just silence or "NO cause this is not a PVP DM server" Yah I have built RP with these other gangs so much we call each other allys but they can NEVER be my ally cause its backup breach if they stumble upon it it is ok but I can never CALL my allys for help even though they my allys
I have made suggestion posts about ALL these topics and you are right alot of both sides agreed with it, but guess what we have 2 developers and it falls on deaf ears nothing with change and I have come to terms with it, but I will continue to complain about it cause maybe just maybe ONE DAY someone in the right spot will see it and we will see a shift.
and TBH weapons/armour to me atleast are not VERY costly its having 0 access to them without being a kissass for official gangs and stroking egos only to pay x2 the price of import. And do not get me started on the process of getting official for yourself. I have lost too many close friends to the headache that is Going For Official and fitting the standard that FS want you to be or no official.
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5 minutes ago, SkyeFuryy said:
SD here! o/
I have to agree that it is merely a skill issue. I am sure PD are the same, but we lose at least 50% of all pursuits on a given day. If you were caught, it is either unlucky circumstances or you are just bad at it. No offense intended.
Secondly, y'all are acting as if we disregard the rules and powergame our way through it. This is not true, we are held to very high and strict standards. If we screw up (and we're human behind our screens, it happens to everybody) we pay the price for it, whether it be through a player report, an IC suspension or other.
This is a serious RP server. And half of you are under the age of 30 and I very much doubt that any of you are in some high functionning cartel IRL. In fact I'd put money on the fact that most of you have not even seen inside a prison cell. We don't RP GTA online, we RP as realistically as possible. So whilst we are bashing PD and SD for being too OP, can someone explain why the heck you evade for getting pulled over for a speeding ticket? Or why when given the opportunity for RP there is absolutely none? I was held at gunpoint just yesterday on my SD character, and ultimately the guy was screwed regardless. This could have turned into a great story arch, possibly taking me hostage to try and escape, instead, he jumped back into his vehicle leaving his friend to die, and left the scene. He didn't even take my radio. IRL, gangsters don't bait cops, gangsters don't carry illegal .50's on their hips for everyone to see, gangsters don't speed when they have illegal stuff in their vehicles! This isn't about cops being too OP. We don't want the W, we don't want to chase you, in fact, it is annoying. We want to RP, but this mentality right here in this thread goes to show that you only care about the W.
Go buy body armor if you are too worried about getting shot at (which by the way, only happens if we are shot at first).
Lastly, 5 hours in the DOC is not too long. An arrest report at the very least takes 30 minutes to write. And we do anywhere between one to ten of those in a day. If I didn't want to do that, I'd resign. If you don't want to serve time for doing crimes, then don't do crimes. Or, just get good.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
I am sorry but is this a troll response?
like you said Leo's are Human and guess what being human comes with being bias and bypassing rules or protocols to suit your own agenda, no one is blind to the fact that cops IRL plant evidence, Lie in police reports, target certain people, because its bullies with badges (many IRL examples available in a simple google search of cops being arrested and charged for abusing their privilege's as a cop, plus god knows how many get away with it)
Evadeing over a speeding ticket? yes cause I have been on the server so long I have built a "file" of the sort against myself that cops WILL pull me out the vehicle 99% of the time search me and my vehicle head to toe for 20 minutes, and I will be given a demerit or Jail time since 90% of the time I always carry a .50 just incase. So do I just eat it every SINGLE TIME, or take the chance of an evasion to get away completely? I have not been to jail i wanna say in 2-3 months as I can get away easy It truely the easiest route if there is no helicopter.
Skye you came back after a big LOA and obviously just know nothing about what is going on, IRL gangster do not bait cops? do you live outside the US that happens DAILY hence "fuck 12" "fuck the ops" "fuck pigs" these "gangsters" harrass PD on the daily in their towns and cities, gangsters ALWAYS carry illegal guns on them IRL for everyone to see cause they think they are some "hard" person with a point of intimidation to prove. Gangsters speed and drive reckless CAUSE they have illegal stuff in their vehicle and they just do not care. There are certain parts of my state,town, and city POLICE will NEVER go to or patrol alone for the risk of safety factor being huge. Shit we have nicknames for places and you know not to go there at night.
"Go buy body armor if you are too worried" - IDK if you play crim or just are blind to the fact of how hard it is to get body armor unless you have personal access to it, or are willing to just bow down to any official org that would bother attempting importing it for you not to mention if you are no body you paying x3 the price. And ATM we are having a Official faction shortage has most of the gangs sell internally only or do not dabble in the imports of guns or armor.
This last lane HAS TO BE A TROLL COMMENT - Lastly, 5 hours in the DOC is not too long. An arrest report at the very least takes 30 minutes to write. And we do anywhere between one to ten of those in a day. If I didn't want to do that, I'd resign. If you don't want to serve time for doing crimes, then don't do crimes. Or, just get good.
Do you just not work a 40 hour fulltime job IRL? I personally only get exactly 5-6 hours to play Monday-Friday and I am forced to tiptoe my way to playing the game to not dabble with my playtime, god forbid the boys wanna do a Bank cause then If I'm feeling ballsy I can risk it or just scout for it to avoid not being able to play tomorrow
Git Gud? https://streamable.com/bepprx cause I mean you can get better then a t-1000
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8 minutes ago, Cyrus Raven said:
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Most of the grievances in this thread aren't at all related to PD/SD, and ironically I doubt most legal roleplayers would oppose implementing something like @XeV mentioned with making PD/SD own their vehicles (with IC rules to prevent use while off-duty) and thus have them pay for fuel, maintenance, towing, etc...
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Adding other costs for more advanced weaponry and armour.
why? Because it will barely impact the type of RP they do. This idea from criminal RPers that ''OH MY GOD, if only PD couldn't spawn vehicles fast or had to pay for their own guns, maybe crim RP wouldn't suck so hard!!'' is a delusion.
However, your issues are much more related to rule surrounding faction member limits, ability to call for backup from allies, turf/import system, drug system, etc... Stop making threads like this and wasting everyone's time. You guys have plenty of valid complaints of things that are killing/restricting your RP and It definitely isn't PD/SD
- You complain about 40 units vs 1 person? Actually WHOMEGALUL cares? That just means that PD/SD have seriously mismanaged their resources and now 99% of the other criminals can go and do some crime without any consequences, in case I have to spell this out for you, this is a GOOD thing for you...
- Your issue isn't PD having carbines (not to mention they are rank restricted), your issue is not having accessible weapons as official factions that don't cost your left testicle to obtain, so complain about that.
I could go on, but I'm not gonna bother writing 30 paragraphs of stuff that's been said in the past. You guys have legit grievances most if not all PD players will AGREE with this, where you lose most of them is making threads like these that read like someone complaining about a competitive game balance as if this is a cops vs robbers server.
Your issue isn't PD having carbines (not to mention they are rank restricted), your issue is not having accessible weapons as official factions that don't cost your left testicle to obtain, so complain about that. - the issue is PD having carbines (rank restricted or not) carbines are in a AWFUL state, carbine damage was increased by 20% when 95% of crims do not even wear kevlar or have access to it and if we did then what we just run kevlar 24/7 incase a carbine cop shows up?)
PD can Call SD for backup and can bypass the 40 member faction limit set for illegal factions, we cannot call our ally gangs to assist us in fighting the Cops for a last stand operation if it came to it. We just try to take tires or take the 5v30 to get our boys out safe, Why? cause a lot of us play in a "ride or die" mindset. its a fucking video game and I will gladly "die" in it if it means my friends get away and get to continue having fun.
And Like I said earlier I love it when we take tires only for the cop to hit Vespucci pd going 230 spamming /delspawn and spawns a new cruiser to get right back into the chase in seconds rather then, "oh shit I have no tires got to break off to go to LSC and get it repaired" Realism is pick and choose for peoples benefit but yah If i shot your tires IRL your done from the chase forever that's it. Or your hopping in another cruiser with other officers.
Like someone said earlier PD and SD are a money farm, you spend your paycheck you receive weekly on NOTHING but expensive cars you drive the speed limit in, houses to store them, and businesses to repeat the cycle. Why not spend a little money on the guns you use or the armor you take out and only be able to take out a set amount, you have had the money farm going for enough to not care right? That way atleast there is SOME reason for cops to fear loseing the items they spent THEIR money on rather then just fuck i died /fl micro smg,tazer, .50 and 100ap , /fspawn scout2 back to patrols.
I was a LSC mechanic for 6months and I repaired 1 detective cruiser in my time there, at most just add a Cooldown from when you can spawn another cruiser after deleting then old one so its not INSTANT new cruiser, but ADD something or anything
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it was very cool and all, but at the same time an absolute shit show, so much so that staff would actually just hang out there and wait for the goon shit to start. the constant vdm of a bank truck or a bus going full speed and ramming EVERYONE. The massive terrorist attack where one dude would bring an ak and murder everyone. and later realized that there are no staff online at a certain time so you would just die and be shit out of luck till tomorrow.
Pier was cool but it was a mess and required CONSTANT supervision/ over sight from staff constantly
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Criminal factions max out at 40 members, both PD and SD combined come out to 198 members,
, Open Juro go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Realism is always a pick a choose case so we could never have realism like we want it. PD and SD can team up together just fine, but nope gangs cannot help out others cause its back up breach.
In 1992, a truce was announced by Crips and Bloods to deter the gangs from killing each other after the acquittal of four police officers in the beating of Rodney King in Los Angeles the year prior.
The infamous "Watts Truce"
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59 minutes ago, Bala said:
This thread is like a game of chinese whispers.
The OP starts off on a tirade of half truths and it gets progressively more inaccurate as the replies come in.Yes, you can use /fl from your vehicle to get new weapons, but you also have to do roleplay beforehand of taking that weapon and storing it or you cannot use it. That would be powergaming and that person would be not just in trouble with the staff team but with the faction they were in too.
You say you are tired of 40 cops chasing one person because there is nothing to do.
First of all, I'd imagine it would be incredibly rare that 40 cops would chase one guy in 2022 and if they did, homie has the WMDs on him so it's not going to be for no reason.
When you exaggerate like that, you lose credibility.I'm tired of certain official factions cop-baiting police chases because there is nothing to do but you know what, tough fucking titty. You gotta chase them in their little Issi Sports anyway.
As for the Jugular, don't even. Driving that thing is like putting lipstick on a pig.
It is not that the jail time is too long, it is that the prison set-up sucks.
As for paying for our own cars and weapons, you know what bring that shit on but you best believe that that money you are paying for your illegal parking fines or your face concealment (b) is going to fund my new $16k an hour paycheque. Then I'm not letting you off any charge you deserve because me and my fellow faction members need the money to be able to do our jobs in the server properly.
I dunno who is deploying three shinobis but it shouldn't be PD.
As for this argument about not being able to beat PD, you know why? Because you ain't supposed to be fighting the police! If we're armed to the teeth and decked out with all the best shit, why on earth would you even think about fighting us. I know people love the realism angle so if gangs start shooting cops in real life, what happens? They get wiped and jailed for life. On ECRP, you get prison for 4 hours and then you're out.
I get the criminal side of things sucks right now but targeting your frustrations at the PD or SD is really lazy. Half of you, I'm sorry but you're just bad at the criminal thing man. You make it so obvious, it's too easy.
I don't like you guys cover your faces all the time but with /alias, it's necessary.
I don't like that all of you run around with radios that have no limited distance or battery power but it's necessary.
I don't like that you guys all wear the same colours of clothing, but it's necessary.
I don't like that the Issi Sport is a credit store vehicle but it is.
I don't like that people like the OP are very quick to blame others but take zero accountability for their own actions.
I don't like that people are so anal about dying in a video game when they can literally pretend nothing happened
I don't like that our forum report system is weaponised by individuals to try and get back at other individuals that won a situation.I could go on and on about the things I don't like about criminal role-players but you have some legitimate problems with the server and I do sympathise and have tried to help as much as anyone.
It ain't PD or SD though.
I am just now finding out LEO's have to do RP beforehand if they wise to store the god armory in their vehicle, which If I was to steal the cruiser I would never see as its behind the invisible barrier that is realism
I watched just today 10+ cops chasseing a faggio 2X occupied cause why not
Yah I think the cringe people just ZOOMING through the city in Paragon, Issi Sport, and Juglar are just cringe as all can be
Yah jugular is not a good car lowkey he got a point
Prison as it is needs script support HEAVILY or it will continue to be ass
"As for paying for our own cars and weapons, you know what bring that shit on but you best believe that that money you are paying for your illegal parking fines or your face concealment (b) is going to fund my new $16k an hour paycheque. Then I'm not letting you off any charge you deserve because me and my fellow faction members need the money to be able to do our jobs in the server properly." - whats the difference? I personally know cops who have told me "If i dislike you OOC bet your ass I will stack you and make the ride to DOC twice as long" also there is no "fund" its just a pit of infinite resources, god forbid you would have to maintain and pay for your own equipment the company lets you use.
"Just do not fight the police" that in its self is just a cringe take, just leave the police alone always
Half of you, I'm sorry but you're just bad at the criminal thing man. You make it so obvious, it's too easy. - there is no good or bad at being a criminal as that take is just how you view being a good crim (rich af, never arrested, always winning fights, lots of numbers) its not BEING BAD when Crims have to work hours/days/weeks/months to get access to things that cops just spawn in in seconds
I don't like that all of you run around with radios that have no limited distance or battery power but it's necessary. - Ya and I do not like that cops just do not use ingame radios, but instead use a 3rd party program for better audio quality and do not have to worry about a random "coughdrop" when giving comms
I don't like that you guys all wear the same colors of clothing, but it's necessary. - I do not understand this take, rather have all my members wearing something similar so I'm not just blasting friendlies
I don't like that the Issi Sport is a credit store vehicle but it is. - Same lowkey
I don't like that people like the OP are very quick to blame others but take zero accountability for their own actions. - I got 2 bf400's 2 scouts a kamacho and air one on me when ATM's got released for hitting an atm, petty theft charge got me air 1
I don't like that people are so anal about dying in a video game when they can literally pretend nothing happened - I love spending x amount of time grinding to afford something and i get DM'd or desync rammed off my bike and cannot refund request cause its under 25k and no staff are online to take my ingame report.
I don't like that our forum report system is weaponised by individuals to try and get back at other individuals that won a situation. - THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
It ain't PD or SD though. - it is just not true, 9 times out of 10 people leaving or taking breaks are because of the way Police act on this server and are allowed to act consistently
also I love it when you make a cop angry and they do everything under the sun to ruin your playing experience cause they can, I pissed of a friend of a detective one time and was then followed around the city for 30 minutes to an hour to the point where I just parked my car went to my apt and logged of 20 minutes later.
I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE THING you have done for the crim community with your well put together posts and suggestions that just fall on deaf ears 95% of the time, but nothing will change or get done unless we continue to complain
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As a quick point, none of my posts are meant malicious it is just me airing my grievences that I know me and alot of others have in a public setting and having a discussion about why something is the way it is and what can we do to change it possibly so everyone is on the same playing field to an extent
In saying I appreciate all the actual responses from people some even being LEO that are willing to type an actual sentence to explain why It is not ok or Why it IS the way it is
for the LEO's that just type troll answers on a discussion thread I hope one day you are able to tie your own shoes.
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I have said this before and ill say it again, another server I played on had a good system for this, cops cars are spawned in for them and are GIVEN to them as personal vehicles that need to be maintained as you would your normal car in parking.
As you said at the beginning I am just not a fan of the way the carbine is IC, as soon as cops get the rank to use it its ALL they use and it just shreds people instantly. it needs to be rebalanced or adjusted.
I have personally reached out to faction services about the /fspawn and /delspawn being abused to just get a new cruiser cause damaged or low gas or no tires, I was told it was passed on to the right people, and can confirm its not AS bad as it was before so I do believe someone said something about it.
But one point you forgot and there is a report up for its abuse is the ability to /fl (faction loadout) close to your vehicle. Which essentially means they have an infinite supply of anything they want that they have the rank to use weaponry and armor wise. I have personally seen an officer run out of micro rounds and just do /me throws micro in the back and reaches down and grabs another one. And just /fl a brand new micro to continue just spraying a vehicle. Like I understand officers come equipped with different things then others, but ALL cops have access to this infinite black hole armory candy store. Couple of us died one time cause a cop pulled out a marksman rifle from his bf400 and sniped us.
Jail time is still way too long, Illegal gun charge is an hour in itself.
(Before people respond with the typical "Its IC cause these things require IC protocols to be made to follow")
But yah I am also tired of having 40 cops chasing 1 dude cause there is nothing else going on and its a slow night and cops are bored so they all respond to the backup cause why not. It is just poor RP and Poor policing as 9 times out of 10 people see that chase and go hit a bank for the easiest payout ever as all of LEO is chasing the faggio past pillbox.
BUT no one likes to have these conversations cause god forbid the cops on creative mode have to actually value others that play on the server and then complain that crims are doing things such as 25+ bf400 banks for ez money and not providing RP. its a two way street you just mow us down and we lose 4-5 hours of work ontop of the Jail time. We do everything possible to never give you the chance.
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solid responses from members of the LEO community, as if I'm surprised
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3 minutes ago, SkyeFuryy said:
Teamspeak is only an additional radio for LEO's. We use VOIP whilst we speak on TAC so it's really no different to if you asked us to use in-game radios. Like mentionned above, we have so many channels and traffic that we require additional radio systems in order to keep traffic open and communications clear between departments.
By all means, if DEV's can develop an in-game system, sure! But in the meantime, we use teamspeak like a handheld radio in game. So I don't see the issue.
Furthermore, I don't see why criminals would need teamspeak. Y'all don't necessarily need different channels as in theory, you only communicate with one group and the iFruit exists for other players! It also makes metagaming more accessible, and even without teamspeak, we have enough metagaming issues.
yes you use it as an alternative for in game radio but like 99% just key bind it to P and if you need to /vr 1 in game it does not matter as you will not need to /vr 1 in teamspeak you will just not be heard IC but only through teamspeak.
Honestly as someone mentioned above its just VOIP, that is it, they need to fix voip cause it is REALLY annoying when people are not able to be heard and not realize they are not being heard because of an OOC issue. Too many instances people have missed important information because of /vr 1
my suggestion was just for these very specific circumstances a 3rd party software would be used for clear cut communication and to avoid someone having to /vr 1.
It has just been a headache forever to miss out on a cop call out, or a back up call, or any information because someone needed to /vr 1 without realizing it over radio. For me personally it has actually lead to turning the tide for a situation as one scout we had while picking plants gave a callout that they were pushing from the hill and climbing the wall (chili). Sadly he needed a coughdrop so no one heard this call and it lead to just everyone being killed.
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21 minutes ago, IAmTurtle said:
People struggle to realize how hard it is to fix voip. The voip on rage is just ass. The devs can on so so much with out building there own thing. Plus most of us rather have better content in game than a voip fix.
i have played on multiple diff rage server of many different variety's and ECRP is the only one with this VOIP issue. I've never had to reset voice chat on any other server
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14 hours ago, Jett_J said:
Just don't say cough drop. It's cringe.
Quick little /b vr 1 is much better or simply "cough"
what is cringe is having your voip system broken for 4 years and doing nothing about it
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Was a blast both times I was able to roll around with the goons in mouse masks.
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YOU HAVE NO IDEA how many times I have heard "I needed a coughdrop this entire time" during HEATED situations weather its a shootout, evading, lookouts for stores or bank robberies.
PD/SD/DOC/GOV all get to be able to use TeamSpeak to bypass this issue entirely and NEVER have a problem communicating comms with the multiple different channels and keybinds.
I want to have everyone be able to use TeamSpeak the same as others, ONLY for specific things, such as, Bank Robberies, Store Robberies, Shootout during or before, evading from police. to be able to bypass the /vr 1 issue that ALWAYS happens during the heat of these situations.
/vr 1 has RUINED so many experiences just by existing and not being able to tell when you need to do it.
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Just as the title states, too many times I have seen FearRp be abused to drive the outcome of a scenario into another persons favor INSTANTLY
Don't like how the RP is going and have a gun, BOOM pull said gun and point and now you have complete control over the entire scenario otherwise the person or people are breaking the FRP rule.
I do not have any suggestion in mind as to how to combat the obvious rule play that happens in these scenariosm, hence why I am making a post to start a conversation about it and get more points on the subject.
All and all I have seen too many times people just go, point gun = I control the RP now until I say otherwise.
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100 CORRECT and My claims are NEVER made without me personally having been apart of said or experienced situations.
I have NEVER worked for SD or PD, but I worked for DOC for a good amount of time. I applied to SD and got accepted to an Interview but I realized my IRL obligations will never let me play both a legal and a crim and enjoy doing it. So sadly I will never experience first hand what a LEO does or has to do, but I am friends with MANY Leo's and even watch them stream sometimes on twitch when I am at work doing paperwork. I was always told to bring my concerns to Kris with PD related things so that is where I have guided everyone too, but I will inform them if possible to reach out to both YOU and Kris with concerns of a situation or anything related to a complaint towards the way PD acted or an officer acted to receive a proper response towards it.
To me paying or funding for equipment is not about balance usage its about, being scared to lose said equipment that actually punishes you ICly a little bit instead of people filing fear rp reports against officers takeing a 2v30.
be scared to die and lose things like we as crims are, cause in its current state the only things LEO's are losing when they die is inventory and time running back to HQ. I want it to be an actual "should I fight this or leave and save my life" cause they spent X amount of money buying the shotgun,.50,tazer they have plus the cruiser they lost cause dead. Cause in my eyes why would I be scared to die if i get everything back at the drop of a /fl