[Have an official Truckers Union]

1 hour ago, Scott Cleverley said:

I mean, you can already do it, just don't deliver for such price. If no one going to deliver for low price they will increase money for delivery request, if someone deliver for low price it's just their choice. That's how economic works in real life.

Yeah but at the moment it's a free for all and those of us who invest in buying trucks to support the economy lose out.

Organising something more official would be cool and add more dynamics to the whole supply and demand side of it. We should be able to set prices for deliveries or something.

I mean, in RL it doesn't work whereby the buyer sets the delivery price now does it....

It would be more realistic if we could have a bigger influence on setting delivery prices.

[Have an official Truckers Union]

Can we start an official Truckers Union, Truck owners can join and stick together to help fight for better paid work. We can also have our own websites on the forums that people can apply to etc.

Having the ability to vote on rejecting orders would be great. So every trucker online can vote and if enough vote then the order is rejected unless it is accepted before hand or something.

[Maxed Phantom Truck]

Has this been sold yet? Also, it aint maxed if it doesnt have Turbo 2... Just saying.

[[SELLING] Pounder Truck]

What can you use this truck for and what size of cargo can it hold?

[[BUYING] House 250k Max]

As titles says, I have 250k to spend on a property, whats available? No rentals please.

[[BUYING] House 2G 250k Max]

I have 250k to spend on a house. Anything considered.

Please do not post offers to rent as they will be ignored. 

I will not buy anything stupid for stupid prices as a lot more houses are about to become available on the market int he coming months I hear so don't insult me with crazy offers.

Thanks

[Live Animals Already Gutted]

Date and time (provide timezone): 26/5/19 11:00 (UK TZ)

Character name: Andy Ashwood

Issue/bug you are reporting: Live Animals Already Gutted

Expected behavior:  Not to be gutted when alive

Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: Killed a walking squawking chicken and got no meat, as you can see in the video it was already gutted while alive and when I eventually killed it, and man was that Terminator chicken was hard to kill, it had no meat. Video - 

Vehicle license plate number*: NA

[Animal Spawn Rate Too Low]

I spent 4 hours today hunting and only came across three animals within the designated hunting areas and even the areas surrounding them. Two of the animals, chickens, disappeared as soon as I killed them and the other, a rabbit, disappeared before I had a chance to take all of the meat.

It seems that the animal spawn rate is extremely low to the point where finding anything is ridiculously difficult.

 

Date and time (provide timezone): 23/05/2019 09:30 to 13:30 (UK TZ)

Character name: Andy Ashwood

Issue/bug you are reporting: Animal Spawn Rate Hunting Areas

Expected behavior:  Find Animals

Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: Go and try to find animals in hunting areas.

Vehicle license plate number*: NA

[Knife or punches don't kill animals.]

I can conform this, tried to kill two chickens today and they just disappeared with no meat available. One live animal even said it had already been gutted.

[Los Santos Irish Mob]

Since LC is no more id liek to join you guys, how do I go about this as everyone is very hush online.

[GANG WAR AUTHORISATION]

47 minutes ago, CallumMontie said:

Thought it be best I share my opinion on some of the comments as well:

I'm a high ranked member from a gang that is directly involved it this war, I can assure you that the gangs aren't going out looking to DM but a war is a war and bullets will be fired. Even if some fired are mistakes, this also happens IRL.

The second area I would like to raise is the "Staff shouldn't be allowed to participate in gangs/lead them." This is absurd, all staff members join the server as normal players to begin with and they're going to stick with the RP that they enjoy. If staff weren't allowed to join gangs they shouldn't be allowed in PD either in my opinion. This is due to PD having a direct influence on the criminal RP of the server.

When it comes to the section of "Gang Leaders taking accountability" This already happens. All Official gangs and most unofficial have a punishment system in place for when it comes to members breaking rules. Just because they're part of the same gang it doesn't mean they're exempt from ECRP rules.

The final point I'd like to raise is the "Gangs need to talk to staff." As you're inexperienced with the whole criminal side of the server let me help. Every official and most unofficial gangs have "Faction Handlers". These are staff members who are designated to help manage and advise the OOC aspects of the gang. If there are any issues noticed from staff it will be raised to the gang. I can also assure you that regular meetings from the gangs leaders and their handlers occur to keep the staff updated.

Things only turn into an OOC issue when people take any given chance to the forums and even sometimes intentionally bait out reports.

Gangs are definitely looking for chances to DM report on forums though, we see it almost every day during the gang war. Nobody can deny that its actually happening and something needs to be done to resolve it.

Like you said, its a war and things happen and thats why there need to be some changes made to take that into account because as it stands, all sides are DM reporting at every opportunity and taking the chance of creating fake DM reports like what happened to friend and I after only being new to the server for a few weeks. Its really off putting and ruins gang war RP.

And perhaps not allowing admins to be a part of gangs is silly but they definitely shouldnt be making decisions that effect the gang that they are in. Ive heard many stories now of certain admins favouring decisions that lean towards their gang. True or not I dont know but im sceptical that it never happens.

[GANG WAR AUTHORISATION]

37 minutes ago, Linden said:

I understand what you're saying, but I completely disagree with it. Your method for reducing the number of people breaking rules is to change the rules so what they are doing isn't against the rules. It SHOULD be against the rules to KOS people, even if you're having a gang war, because the whole point of the server is to roleplay. You need to interact with people before you just shoot them. Sure it happens IRL but in the environment available to us it happens far too often and characters don't actually die when they are killed so you just end up with a cycle of retaliation between gangs. Everyone on the server needs to be held to a higher standard of roleplay but unfortunately the current meta is repeatedly robbing people once they leave a NCZ, shooting up gangsters, and baiting new players into giving you a reason to try and rob them.

With the influx of new players to the server, long time members of the community have been showing off the worst parts of the server in full force and teaching poor roleplay standards to them. People call out their demands then start shooting without allowing for a reasonable timeframe to respond. The complaint today against 14 members of the Zeta's has them give demands to raise hands in voice only and start shooting one second later and what you're suggesting is that we make that completely justifiable by the server rules.

 

As a player who isn't interested in gang roleplay it has been very difficult to stay interested in playing on the server, so anything that reduces the standard of roleplay by any degree is completely unacceptable to me.

Totally agree with the high standards of role play. There needs to be an example of this and I also think that admins should not be allowed to be part of any gang and should stay neutral.

All I am proposing is a way to sort out the gang war mess to include more RL roleplay as one thing is clear, the current rules dont allow for this and causes the mess that we have at the moment which is constant DM report point scoring. Not saying what I have proposed is exactly how it should be but something along those lines can work. Even though certain rules during gang wars will be relaxed, other rules will be put in place.

I think that its definitely worth exploring is some form.

[GANG WAR AUTHORISATION]

13 minutes ago, SkuLLar said:

You understand that gang wars are forum wars not really gang wars?

People are reporting rach other left and right

Yeah haha its figure of speech. What we mean by that is that gangs are using DM reporting to get one over on the opposing gang, trying to get opposing members banned etc.

I am fairly new to this, only been playing a few weeks. First day the gang war started opposing enemies attacked us, I circled around and shot at an opposing gang member. Next thing I know hes uploaded a video which was edited to a very short clip that made it appear that I was shooting at him for no reason. It didnt tell the complete story yet he used that short video to create a DM report which was accepted. Its BS to be fair and gang members for the most part should be the last people to be creating these DM reports for such reasons during a gang war.

What I am proposing is a way to reduce that DM reporting crap just to get score points and allow for a more fluid RP for gang wars.

[GANG WAR AUTHORISATION]

3 hours ago, Linden said:

People are already trigger-happy and don't initiate in proper roleplay before they start shooting, and you want to make that allowed by the server rules? We need stricter roleplay regulations, not rule changes that negate the number of player reports coming in because people (cough Zetas) only want to win.

 

4 hours ago, alexalex303 said:

-1

The server rules are there in place to guarantee a good roleplay environment. Pulling up to people wearing colors and shooting them down with no RP is the exact opposite of that. We already have convoys of vehicles of the same color chasing people in broad daylight. We do not need to suspend rules.

I suggest perhaps looking into allowing people to force CK other people, given sufficient reason. That would be a good way to end a war that would be through roleplay and not 20 people KOSing people in broad daylight because "we at war".

Not sure you guys read the original post in its entirety. But my post covers your concerns. Current rules make gang wars tough to fight which lead to rule breaking, accidentally or on purpose. This, as people have stated above, leads to DM report war on Forums.

My suggestion is to simply have more rules that allow for easier gang wars that themselves have rules of engagement placed upon them. As in, only shooting gang members while wearing gang colours. Not just shooting anyone.

Gang members can then wear normal colours if they want to go about their normal business or gang colours when they want to fight. The gang war rules would only apply during the authorised gang war time and when colours and active etc.

Not saying all of these rules are perfect but the current situation is a mess and doesn't allow for easy flow of gang wars.

The only result from this current gang war is constant DM reporting and now a gang being disbanded and people due to leave the server which hurts this good server in the long run.

Relaxing certain rules for a gang war while tightening or making other new rules to go along with them as in my suggestion works in other games and I'm sure it can work in this.

[GANG WAR AUTHORISATION]

May have posted original thread in the wrong place, here is the link.

Perhaps an admin can move the original thread if need be.

[GANG WAR AUTHORISATION]

Over recent events with gang wars and constant DM blaming from all sides I have a suggestion that may help resolve the issue and bring better game play and RP to the eclipse server.

Basically, my idea is that if 2 or more gangs want to go to war then they have to do the following:

1. One or both of the gangs fill in a gang war authorisation form on the forum.

2. List reasons for gang war.

3. List allies gangs taking part in gang war.

4. Accept terms and conditions placed on gang war.

 

The terms and conditons could be along the lines of:

1. Gang war lasts 30 days from day of application for gang war is authorised.

2. Certain rules like certain aspects of DM & KOS with no RP needed in chat or comms needed are allowed during gang war but only towards opposing gang members.

3. NCZ rules will still be respected at all times.

4. All other rules respected during gang war.

5. Can only engage opposing gang members when you are wearing full gang colours as must be the person you are engaging. 

6. War can be ended early if one side surrenders via application to end war early. Otherwise war will continue for full 30 days.

 

This would not only help increase RP of gang wars like they play out in RL but would cut down the DM blame game and cut down on the amount of admin work that goes in to sorting out all of these complaints.

I mean, it sucks a bit that you have to have a conversation with a guy holding a powerful rifle or something when you're at war with him before you can attack etc. That just doesn't reflect RL at all and the DM blame game just ruins this server for every gang involved.

Anyway, id love to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions on this . It works in other games and im sure it can work on this without ruining it if its implemented correctly.

[Server crash, still in jail]

I was in Jail for one hour, I had a few mins to go until server crashed and now I am still in jail with a full hour to go.