John Nut
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Date and time (provide timezone): 15:26 CET
Character name: John Reggal
Issue/bug you are reporting: Public chop shops
Expected behavior: Consawing in public chops
Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate:
Hey!
Ever since the new chop shops came into town there has been a known issue with the consaw where it is saying that you need to be in the chop shop to be able to consaw it. Even tho all the tools are closeby the toolbox and etc.
What we use to do there is to log in and out until it works and hoping it would work, eventually we found out that the person that placed the toolbox has a higher chance or if not the only person actually able to consaw it.
With the new public chop shops we were not able to consaw the vehicle at all. Tenbae and another admin tried to help but still didnt work. I think this bug is something that needs to be checked into now specially when there are public chops. As mentioned this is a bug that has happened ever since the new chop system was implemented but now with the public chops it does not seem like anyone is able to consaw it. thanks!
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stop bein pussios, fight in colour 1+
this isnt a game, this is real life.
Keep it 100. No monkey shit
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Vehicle is at HE
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39 minutes ago, Comedy said:
I would like to buy it, Have you sold it?
I still have it, I can place it at HE in around 10 minutes
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On 11/12/2022 at 7:00 AM, TheCactus said:
You're selling it for 100k cheaper than stock?
210k so around 100k give or take
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58 minutes ago, ZVER said:
I've sent you a message
Hello, I noticed that I gave the wrong number. Post has been edited to the correct number. Please send another message if yu are interested
5045811
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Contact 5045811 for offers.
The vehicle is great at high speeds and have this old classical combined with modern looks. Its a lovely car.
Reasoning for selling -> Im a policeman and the speed only teases me to break the law
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AAAAA shiet! Here we go again!
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This way chopping can turn into another option for cooking and help "save" the crim on the server right now.
the current state of chops is "make a garage on your property and give it a few days before someone hears a sound and raids it because of one or two sounds" This is what I strongly dissagree on when this is a Strict real life simulator. Any legal person could have a own mechanic station set up in their garage, as I do in real life. Makes no sense for gangs and randoms to raid a property simply because of 1 tire exploding or sound of the lift or whatever.
therefor Having a GTA ONLINE type garage where you enter just like properties and houses/drive it in as in GTA ONLINE style ish, would make it so the same rule applies as it does to property labs and houses - You cant raid a lab/house simply for seeing someone walk in a property with a gun on their hip and a crate in their hand. They need to have solid RP evidence to raid it. If Garages like GTA ONLINE 12 car garages or smaller is implemented same rules can apply and makes it more realistic and better for CRIMS on ecrp.
The bigger the garage the more expensive just like the properties being used for cooking. This way the price range would be almost equal to starting a lab. 1-2Mill for a 6-12 GTA online style garage, 200k ish for the chop equipment and etc.
Another way of implementing it is to use buisness properties. Like the way we see basement under the buisiness place like a night club. Under that night club is a basement where your character does illegal work and or more legal works. Using that with the script can associate chops, cooks, fight clubs, you name it to be done with a peace of mind as well as with many other people too. And as for those who cannot afford such rich business places, they could still keep doing the chops as they are done right now. With more risc.
Here are some pictures
Inside here there would fit a few chop stations maybe 2 or more. maybe not more than 2-3. Costing the ish same amount as big properties which can be used as a cooking lab and whatever.
Smaller garage costing same amount ish as smallest property, also can be used as normal garage or chops station.
Adding this would make it way easier for crews, gangs to properly RP doing chops. Instead of crim turning into a fighting sim and E & SPACE simulator.
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-1 This would make Crim characters/factions struggle even more. As they keep needing to change clothes and etc to stay hidden from cops and rival gangs.
BUT Maybe having a command where "I /alias someone, they need to accept the alias. If its a stranger he can deny it and go on his way. But if there would be a reason to remember him, he would accept. That might be a better idea if many people have a problem with random /alias.
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Epic Idea, makes alot of sense and with the addition of roadwork and burger shot in my opinion, i think a car wash with hourly pay and etc sounds like a good new feature/freelance and a dependant job that people will spend time on because of the hourly pay. This also creates more better RP scenariouse, instead of going to a mechanic and paying half ur wallet on a simple car wash. +1
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I think regular updates would be good for the community. Dev blogs monthly or something like that might make the community feel more connected and "happier"-
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a 10 year old child today was playing basketball inside the garage of the house. He shot some hops and practised with the ball. He did this for about 40 minutes everyday to become the best he can be. But one day after around 15 minutes he heard som noices by the garage door. Not long after 20 armed men with masks bust inside with Shotguns and AK.
That kid is now traumatized.
A man working down in LSC has his own small workshop in the garage where he changes his tires or maintains his bikes and cars. One day he decided to change his wheels as the pattterns had worn out from him doing donuts in the parking lot. He started to remove the tires before suddenly hearing something in the garage door. Not long after 20 armed men with masks bust inside with Shotguns and AK.This man is now traumatized.
A pregnant mother decided to hang up some pictures of family in the garage, the started nailing the walls and hammering the pictures perfectly. But around 10 minutes after, 20 armed men with masks bust inside with Shotguns and AK. She got a heart attack and died, two people died that day. The unborn child and mother.
Her family is now traumatized.
A young car thief has stolen a car and brought it into his hidden chop shop inside a garage, no one saw him drive anything inside. He starts picking parts apart making some noise. Until 20 armed men with masks bust inside with Shotguns and AK. They got the chop and left the young boy traumatized.
This group of armed men robbed all theese houses in one day, but only one house had a chop inside, the rest was innocent souls being traumatized middle ofthe daytime. only 1 out of 4 situations were a chop. Risc>Reward.THIS is very poor RP. ust by hearing a noice shouldnt be a reason to raid someones house. Specially not daytime, maybe nightime. My suggestions is SIMPLY regulate the chop system with SIMPLE written rules like example
-No sounds gives reasons to break into a house, but can make it suspecious so they need to INVESTIGATE further.
-Camp the house, stake it out from a bush or roof or somewhere hidden, take "pictures" of vehicles going in and not out. Not have a reason before you RP see things go in and never come out. That gives a very good RP reason to start breaking in, then its pretty clear its something fishy going on. In this case Risc<Reward.
-Nightime could be a more freetime to start raiding garages if they are a little sus, because the streets are empty and less cops on the street RP wise. It would also make those who chops extra careful at nightime, which would be a cool thing to have ingame. ust like people cant raid wearhouses seeing someone walk in with a crate and a gun on their hip, people shouldnt be allowed to raid people chops for nothing.
Simply hearing some tires popping unrealisticly in the first place making it good enough reason to break in is completely insane. What if it was that kid playing basketball, or that pregnant woman putting up pictures.
Stop being ignorant.
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This would make chopping a little more accessible for those 1000 civs not able or want to involve emself in big gangs/orgs. and a little addition and viariety to the system.
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17 hours ago, alexalex303 said:
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I think it is unrealistic to operate a chop shop in complete silence.
As we all have said more than once on this topic, non of us is saying to remove sounds.
The sounds work good right now, EXCEPT the tires blowing up when being removed with a tool. Im having a hard time understanding why people think its normal having tires exploding more than one time each, and that it in the first place blows up when removing the tires bolts and lifting it off like any other vehicle in this world.
And having a hard time understanding why its ok to raid a house for hearing vehicle's tire popping. RP wise they dont know anything about what might go on in there. A regular man working in 7/11 might be working on his bike inside his own personal garage. A father might change from winter tires to summer tires. using tires popping as a reason to raid is using OOC knowledge that it 100% must be a chop to their IC advantage. Just like we cant rob people at Humane Labs, even tho they are buying ingredients for an illegal activity and we know it OOC wise but not IC wise including cameras, people working and etc at Humane. What about having people break into random houses for hearing one single vehicle's tire exploding 30 times in 3 minutes. ONE single vehicle tire can only blow up once, then its out of air and simply cannot blow up more.
If i walk around in a forein neighbourhood, i walk past a garage and hear the sound of a vehicle tire popping/popping noice. Im not gonna automaticly know he is stealing cars, chopping them and selling parts. Thats the last thing i would think off, its not justifiable thinking that, its assuming and fail rp. BUT if i walk in the same neighbourhood or camp a house i have a sus on. I personally see cars going into the garage and never comming out again "or they watch a person lockpick a car and bring it to the garage" THAT is a good RP reason.This is how the sounds should be if it were realisticly
Removing doors, panels, wheels shouldnt make much noice at all as we are using manual tools to remove and lift it off. That doesnt make much noice, depends on how rusty the bolts are. But still shouldnt be loud enough to blow through thick walls 5-10 meter out from that wall and out on the street.When you start using the engine hoast there should realisticly be some metal hitting eachother and rope sounds as the engine often is tight placed in the vehicle.
Then the Saw which is automatic and makes a loud noice. Which it does ingame with the heavy metal crushing sound when cleaning/cutting.
But when the vehicle tire is the loudest sound of them all, most loud, goes the longest distance and etc. You should see that something is wrong, and people are using it to raid it and be completely ok.
If the tire popping cant be removed, it should be clear that its not a valid reason to raid. That does not give them a reason to believe an illegal activity is going in.
The Chop shop update was to involve more players and more RP scenarios. If RP is to drive past a house, hear an vehicle tire's explosion, i raid it. Thats incredible poor RP with 0 exculation and reason.
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As this just happened, someone heard a tire and broke into 4 doors to eventually find out if it was a chop or not. they raided it succesfully. I heard them say "i drove past and heard a vehicle tire popping, so we raided it"
realisticly if you drive in a random neighbourhood and you hear a vehicle tire popping, do you think its an illegal activity?
But if there would be someone on a roof camping or seeing me bring in a couple cars and never comming out with them, that would be a better reason for an illegal activity which gives reason to attack/rob/break into properties middle of the daytime when people are walking the streets and driving around.
We need clear rules and for those vehicles tires to stop exploding as you dont blow up your cars tire by changing it. Here in my country we change it 2-3 times a year. Never have any of my tires ever exploded using the same tool to remove them, specially not continue exploding 500 more times. If it has to explode ingame, then let it blow up one time when removing and thats it.
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Private labs being completely murdered.
in Criminal Suggestions
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I understand that filling 1 bottle is more realistic. But adding minigame to water tables, minigame for refilling bottles 1 by 1. Tables get warmer quicker. Have and will completely kill private labs. At this point there is NO reason at all to own a public lab as ATM's will make you better money and be a better option.
My suggestion is to either add sinks back into properties where you can refill the bottles. Remove the watering table minigame and keep the tables same as before with how warm they get.
At this point with this new update there is no reason to own a 2-3+ million drug lab as its competely killed. Also wall safes are broken so thats GG.
I understand that you want to push more public labs, but it is already buffed so hard and by adding this is basically forcing all small time criminals to go to labs where you 80% will get murdered by one of the 4 other Gigantic Demon clapping gangs.
There is no balance at this point. I felt like that those big gangs have easier acces to cook in public labs as they have alot of gang members and its quicker to cook. But those smaller criminals now have no other way than to spend 3 hours to cook 90k profit. This will push more people out of the server as not everyone likes clapping/getting clapped in labs
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There is alot of players with skill issues on the server.