Tylergo20
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2 hours ago, Nubbsauce said:
Well if we are going based of Geography on where cameras are at or not. In Los Santos (Aka Los Angeles), Speed Traps and Speed Cameras are Banned as Speed Traps were deemed unlawful and the cameras endangered others due to the camera flash temporarily blinding them or startling them (Potentially causing accidents).
But if we are just adding speed cameras in just because "DONT SPEED EVER!" then idk *Shrug*actually in Canada on the 407 toll roads they take photo of front and back of the car and no flashes. and if you are at night they can clearly see it properly also if 1 of your 2 plates are covered they will send you a ticket for the toll road and a ticket for obstructing your plate. people put the covers on them to hide it but they can see it easier that way. also they can identify who was the driver of the car at the time of snap shot also. and if you were speeding or not.
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2 hours ago, Vasquez said:
Aye, its sad that most robbers don't really want to roleplay ( As you said, they count down and basically shoot you if you ain't fast enough to type or respond )
Hopefully we will get rid of those trash players and at one point increase the overall roleplay, so stuff like above could be roleplayed.What I think should be done is have a training server. Or a 2nd server were we have a selected group of people play on. Just to make totorials. And how to roleplay videos. There is already someone doing it. But have some really experienced rp people make the videos like had to hand roberies and situations. Have people watch them. And say this is the standered we like to see. Now we all know some of us are not that good at RP but it gives people a chance to come up with stuff that's realistic. But it will slow down on the killing and slow down, hand up search kill leave and have a proper scenarios.
I do beleave that when you die you should be stuck in the hospital for 15 min. And tell the "dr what happend for a record on how you died." And it will help people calm down.and if it was breach of rules a admin that is there can say ok. Post on forums your evidence and your report number is (what ever number) that way there can also now be some organization.
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15 hours ago, Vasquez said:
There's a clear difference between pulling out a weapon and disarming someone.
Most players have their weapons located at either their back ( where the gun is script wised placed at the waist ) or at the front.
That means that the person would have to first reach for his weapon, put the safety off, and then take aim at the robber.
Obviously that motion would give the robber way too much time to react, and would most likely end wrong ( Which is why asspulling a gun when you are being robbed is against the fear rule )
But, disarming a robber with your hands, is much quicker, require less motion, and if you have trained enough, greatly reduces chances of injuries.
You can even take disarming classes, which is why I don't consider it to be against the fear rp rule to actually try to disarm a robber.
This video actually shows the whole disarming of a gun vs can it be done really well.
Note that both of these men in the video are Spec Ops, and have obviously had serious weapon training, meaning that their respond time is properly better than the average joe.
In real life, most robbers bail if they lose the upper hand of a situation, such as getting disarmed.
This is another funny video about a guy getting disarmed
Saying shit like "/me I saw you move so I Shoot you " is wack and what keeps the rp level of the server low.
Most robbers don't like to roleplay, and as soon as they think they are getting out roleplayed, they do some spec ops force shit and excuse it with " I was in the military ".
Don't be like them.
Anyway, just wanted to clear my point.Its a cool idea. and yes. you can evade it. but when in getting robbed by I dont know gangs in the game there are 2 or 4 of them and you cant do this and all they what to do is give me or car. and start a count down. so you cant ask or do anything and then if you dont respond in there liking they just shoot. or you say
/do reaches in pocket to grab keys
/me drop keys by accident (pretending to fear for life and then by this time I get shot because im stalling the RP situation) then they take off
now if they said something like
/do I pickup drooped keys (then yes I would of unlocked the car for them because I droped keys on ground but I am at hospital and they just used bobby pins anyways)
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On 1/5/2019 at 9:28 PM, JasonG said:
Let me just start off and say that this thread is not meant to be an argument, some know why I'm posting it but it is not directed towards any certain person or any certain situation.
So I've noticed something quite scary and it's the misconceptions of the powergaming rule on this server. Allow me to blow your mind for a quick minute. /do success? -> is not necessary, ever. And I'm going to explain why.
First, lets start with the definition of the powergaming rule as per the server rules.
6.4 Powergaming 6.4.1 Forceful roleplay, that does not give the other player a chance to roleplay their own response is considered powergaming. For example, a player may attempt to knock the other player unconscious by roleplaying it (using the /ME command), however the other player must be given a chance to roleplay the outcome of that action. 6.4.2 Roleplay of unrealistic actions is another form of powergaming. For example, roleplay of having super powers, driving a vehicle while your character is handcuffed, shooting a weapon while your character is injured. 6.4.3 It is not allowed to input false information or lie in /DO as this roleplay command is used to explain the facts of a roleplay situation. For example, if your character is hiding a pistol and another player makes an attempt to search you, if the outcome of the search is successful, you must use /DO to state the roleplay fact that the pistol had been found. 6.4.4 Forceful server commands, such as, /HANDCUFF or /MUG are exceptions to the powergame rule.
Powergaming has many, many, MANY definitions and it is one of the more complex roleplay terms. Powergaming is also the most often roleplay rule broke during situations and often the most misconceived. It's easy to powergame, honestly, and the more you roleplay the more chance that you'll encounter this rule either being broken or being bent. First let's take a look at a situation that is considered powergaming.
For all examples, Mark_Winterfield will be me. John_Doe will be the person I'm roleplaying with.
* Mark_Winterfield takes the man by the arm and throws him in the cell. /solitary John_Doe 60 * Mark_Winterfield walks away.
THAT is powergaming. There was no allowance of time between the /me and the /solitary. How would you fix that?
Adding a /do success? is an option... but it's not necessary. I've always had a issue with this kind of roleplay because it opens the door for a crappy response. See below:
* Mark_Winterfield takes the man by the arm and throws him in the cell. * Do I succeed? (( Mark_Winterfield )) * No, John runs away (( John Doe )).
W..what?? OK. That is very basic. John ran away. Cool. How though? I had him by the arm. Tell me how a man in cuffs managed to run away. Surely it's possible, but how am I suppose to respond to that? How do I combat that without using /do causing even more of a headache. Let me blow your mind real quick. Let's try this whole roleplay situation but without using /do for success questions once. Let's see how it turns out.
* Mark_Winterfield takes the man by the arm and throws him in the cell. * John_Doe brings his foot up and kicks Mark in the shin, running away. * Mark_Winterfield stumbles backwards, reaching for his taser once he's comprehended the situation. > Mark stuns John_Doe * Mark_Winterfield takes the man by the arm tries to throw him in the cell again. >Mark waits 30 seconds for a reply. /solitary John_Doe 60 * Mark_Winterfield walks away.That is quality roleplay. Quick and easy, to the point. But very descriptive. It described every action without using a single /do. /do should be used to describe an action or an object. Or for clarification on a subject. Not to ask questions about succeeding or not. Sure it works, but it's sloppy and lazy.
Let me clarify one thing: I will never send a /do asking if I succeed. Ever. When I send a /me, that is me trying to do that. If you have a problem with the way that I have done /me, you tell me in /do. Let's say that John Doe tried to kick me again after he was tased. This is how I would handle it. Check below:
* Mark_Winterfield takes the man by the arm and throws him in the cell. * John_Doe brings his foot up and kicks Mark in the shin, running away. * Mark_Winterfield stumbles backwards, reaching for his taser once he's comprehended the situation. > Mark stuns John_Doe * Mark_Winterfield takes the man by the arm tries to throw him in the cell again. * John_Doe kicks Mark again. * How would John have enough strength after being tased to kick Mark again? (( Mark_Winterfield )) * John_Doe would comply. /solitary John_Doe 60 * Mark_Winterfield walks away.
And that is how you should do it. Only one /do was needed, for clarification. There was no confusion, no misconceptions. Everything was described perfectly. Think of roleplay like writing a book, your characters will attempt actions that are combated by other characters. Everything needs to be described. There is no technical problem of using a /do to ask if you would succeed, however in my opinion it is very sloppy. I would like to see less people do this and more people start actually roleplaying every action. As long as you give ample time for someone to respond with a /me, skipping the /do would I succeed is not powergaming.
But that's just a theory... A FIL-
DUDE that is deep and accurate. I like it.
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On 1/4/2019 at 2:03 AM, phobophage said:
It's blowing up your house to get rid of a spider...one thing that is not THAT big an issue does NOT need to be taken to an automated server-breaking-its-own-powergaming-rules level of response just because SOME people MIGHT take it further...it's the slippery slope argument, when and IF it becomes vehicular assault, manslaughter, whatever is when those actions should be punished, not before, not "just in case". It breaks peoples RP on both sides of the law as well, no bueno for this kinda server.
So i am taking it you go 100 kph in school zones when kids are crossing the street, Or drive 100 kph though a intersection and hope no traffic in your way?
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2 hours ago, Travis Blackwood said:
+1. I play a criminal myself and although this is fun to do i feel like its failrp and would much prefer seeing actual scenarios where people gesture you to pull over and make it interesting. only down side is if you're alone in your car and get pulled over and you want to roleplay you need to let go of the gas which i find annoying at times.
well thats the thing it sucks but I do beleave it should be a 2 man operation like in the stores.
When are you ever going to pull someone over when they are on a fast highway. and if you think of it the highways Would probly have other drivers on it so you will never rob someone on it. When I was younger 18-20 when we robbed people we stocked them. we see a rich guy traveling and then we followed him around until we seen a opportunity when he was alone on a back road and stuff. or if we went into a dead parking lot. then we hop out of are car then pointed gun at the guy. NOW If you are smart you dont jump in front of the car because some people will just hammer the gas and run you over. Its the fight or flight. or they will pull a gun on your right away and shots may be fired.
Then cops may show up so you say ohh well (but Fword) it and take off. Me and 3 others were good to go for 3 years untill we tryied it on a under cover cop (er did not know) and then we got busted. I understand how exciting it is. BUT as a Role Play situation if you putting your self in that aria were you may get killed RPing as a robber. thats why if I decide to do criminal activity. and I do get the chance to rob people I am not really going to take there stuff because if they are still new its hard to get up there. Also its better RP when you get them into a back ally take there phone batteries. and then you tie them up in back of car and talk about it and hide him for 1 hr or so then drop them off somewhere in town close enough to a taxi or transit system. that way they are not killed they are not harmed you got that hostage situation you liked. yes you did not gain anything but some good RP. and you let him go. Now if you are dumb and not paint or car or change clothing ya there may be a bolo for you. but thats the risk of it and not knowing if a cop will see you after you get the guy in car or not. and its harmless fun.
(we done lots of this on a different server. when people just kill the people it was frond app-on you needed a really good reason to kill, so we kidnapped. then let them go. you get more fear in them that way and they dont get mad and leave the servers. Also we had a (/panicbutton once every 1 IRL Hour) when that was typed in chat. that is said when about they think they get killed when the NLR we had after 30 min and you get your car back from the insurance if you were able to take photos screen shots you were allowed 1 photo. or 1 min of recording. and you were able to bring that to the police to make a police report. that way criminals were able to get caught for stuff. but the police report is only active for 12 hrs IRL after that it was considered unsolved case.)
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4 hours ago, Chris Bluestone said:
Because this is Roleplay server . Hello
no i played on other role-play servers. and voice was mandatory and chat was only for actions. there was and there was no scrips no auto this auto that. /fuel /quitjob.
when you were at a store you talk to the store clerk and when done buying your stuff. it was role-played as I pass over your 4 apples in bag and 2nd bag has your 2 drinks. but you never really got anything. or get pulled over and a cop ask you for your ID. you tell them your name and what they may find on it. and if you had gun. it was just basic map with lots of people on it actually rolplaying situations out. There was never massive gun fitghts or robbing people because there was no point in doing so. Also when you die you half to wait 30 min in a hospital and talk to the DR. witch was a admin to let them know why you died. and you had a recovery time. in the server dieing is just ohhwell i lose all me stuff. wait 30 min and then lets go do it again.
also this is getting off topic from the original thought. the point is this server can have more better roleplay eliments and people should understand when driving something you can talk from car to transport let a lone take a sports bike to try to pit a Washington or to use a super car to rab a tanker truck. that would never happen in your favor.
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On 1/8/2019 at 3:20 PM, Hilbert said:
I think we should have IC text chat too. Currently my mic is not it use, I drove over it with Scooter by accident, and when I have it I rarely use it. I know how to type, but I suck at speaking. Because I am not native. That's why I like to use text chat over voice chat. Both are nice to have.
this is the first server that I have played on. that has chat text as IC and ooc. most other servers that i played on and admin on was voice was mandatory. and text is for the occasion use. and anything that is ooc or actions was in text
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10 minutes ago, Gangula said:
Personally I think the reasoning is because if you stick a gun out the window people do not react to it / do not see it , while in real life if you'd see a car full of people aiming guns at your vehicle driving next to you and gesturing for you to pull over you would , but here you cannot do that sadly
So instead they can do /me rolles down window.
/Me sticks gun out of window
/do gestures to pull over
There you go. Geuss what that is now a RP situated pull over. By other rules you cant shoot at highway speeds anyways.
And before you say what if I'm alone. You need 2 people to rob store so you need 2 people to rob someone. Also the hole highway around the map should be soft ncz modified. You arnt going to see people roobing people in a highway there SHOULD be loads of traffic and lots of whitneses. Criminals that are robbing for cash they would do stick ups people around in town bring them into back alleys and then rob them.
(Like I have actualy done in irl. Thies people doing this are 2 bit and would be killed in irl or missing)
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1 hour ago, Balastas said:
I agree. But not sure how for other people but sometimes I try to talk to find out that people can't even hear me (even when it works perfect on other games)
That's why you roleplay at the bank a mic check and say hay .an I just got my voice back is it ok?
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The crime rate is way to high. If you watch others like on DOJ. Or other things ya there is crime. There is no scripts it's all text base. If you dont have voice your kicked or told to fix it. Text chat should only be for ooc ONLY. and voice needs to work better.
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5 hours ago, Denni said:
Yeah that's a concern at the moment. If you feel they failed to roleplay please report them on the forums.
In fact, watching that there are rules broken. Make sure to report that.
They ate so backlogged on reports the first one I did that was .ore serious then this has never bin lookes at yet @KnoxVegas
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On 12/30/2018 at 3:34 PM, Vasquez said:
Keep it up, new players need a good role model to teach them about the do's and the dont's of the server and of roleplaying.
and some criminals need a refrresher also like some of thies guys that thinks using nice sports cars to block a road are a nice thing and shooting someone that has bin following all demands and spaming chat not letting people do the RP properly and a gang of 15 v 2 because they are so touff
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I would like to see A coach bus added to the game also. Like a rute of 15 stops pays more like bus station to prisson to sandy shores to blaine county and then 2 or 3 random coach bus stops around the city. with it marked so players can see them and wait there for a bus then hop on and off as needed.
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it would be nice to own a part of land. and you can grow crop/weed on it or do your prospecting. give players more to do. Golf should be brought back in some how for people to do rounds of golf. and have it so its in a NCZ/teliported map so people cant shoot at you,
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1 minute ago, Com783 said:
We would have to make characters every day probably lol
2 minutes ago, Com783 said:exactly, the only way to have true roleplay is to force it...so much cry baby anyway, death should be permanent and your character deleted....you could visit hes tomb for the nostalgia to
we should be more forced into the death and forced to wait. and you cant have 2 characters doing same thing
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16 hours ago, M_T said:
What I suggest is done about the deaths being a minor inconvenience to people is to implement a system where one party if they have a valid reason enough can force CK someone, this would also add chances for Loan Sharks, and proper beef where the other party doesn't just respawn. Imagine how immersive a gang war would be if the other gang is trying to execute the leader of your gang. I believe that a system like this would also prevent people from starting gang wars for stupid reasons that quite frankly, are dumb.
I beleave the bleed out time should be longer for cops and medics to come actually rescue you. and if you force die or bleed out you half to be locked up in the hospital for 15-30 min. with a admin or medic staff so you can tell them what happend for your death and if it was a fail RP situation then they can investigate it.
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50 minutes ago, clickclack said:
The server feels like a bandit looting and deathmatch mode, not even a single interaction of roleplay. They would just shout at you "Hands up" or "Pullover" like wtf it's getting toxic and it infects new players.
48 minutes ago, Denni said:It's a shame. But, seems some are getting deported.
Its not happening fast enough. I am ok with being robed. its a wast of there time. but Roleplay it properly. just now i was at gas station and the guy just randomly shoots at the back of my tanker. and in /o i said really. then they respond ya he is a idiot, next thing I knew 4 min later he is back at me and tells me to get out and nothing shoots me in head. I am fed up with the lack of this role play. for the 5 or 6 people that I do meat in this game are nice there is 15 people that what to kill me just becasue I have a red shirt on. Like wow, Gang wars and gang stuff should be only in a section of map and not at a place were you get a job. I am sorry. there is a server on rage RP that is called (COPS and ROBERS) if that what you what to do go over there. if you gonna rob someone at least RP it properly. I am ok with new people if they have a new player tag trying to rob me because thats what they would like to be to get there rep. yes i help them RP the situations more. but not just (hand up, take shit, kill player and leave.) they have the ability to take baterie of phone take the phone. why not leave them alive so they can call the cops on you so you can engage in the cop chase.
If this keeps going on I what to have the ability in every civilian work truck, transport, money truck, and or delivery van and taxi car, to be able to have a panic button like how 75% of company cars have tracers and panic buttons in them so the police can be dispatched and actually get the robbers,
soon I may have admin reports from me because I just feel now as a civilian I should just shoot and kill the everyone I see because they are not in a NCZ and may as well kill them before they kill me right.
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I have experienced that when I am driving my cars down the road. People expect me to have a radio or cell phone or magical device in my car or a can with a string that can do 2 way communication with people I do not know.
People drive up to me in a transport and say pull over. As far as I am aware that is not RP. How am I gonna hear you in a transport or car going 60 kph. in IRL 60 kph you can barly hear the people inside a car with a window open let alone a biker with a full face helmet on.
according to post from a administrator MusketDeezNuts: If your in a moving vehicle. Going on a normal speed. You may ignore those demands. As shouting out of a car like that would fall under the NonRP rule. If you check some archived punishment appeals you should get a better picture of it.
I think there should be a proper rule in the rule book about this issue. and reporting players and some players not understanding what can be done in a game but not in real life. should be followed.
also maybe you see the server saying "Hello (player_name) then the rule" maybe having somehting like "Reminder, Talking Car to car at moving speed is not allowed. unless you have a radio."
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On 1/3/2019 at 1:15 PM, PersonOfPerson said:
I agree with your first statement there should have to be two individual's to rob a person especially when its in one of these situations.
All I want is a clearer understanding of how to react in these situations such as on residential roads and the motorway and at a certain speed limit. (as Dennis said you wouldn't be able to hear shouting from another car when your doing 130KM)
even then. me and my buddies tested this in IRL. from 0-20kph you can talk and kind hear people 25-45 had to yell at REALLY close range 65 and over the wind is to much to do anything but hand gestures. this should be something that is added to the rules i do fully like this. not even then we are in cars in snow in Canada when you are in a transport my real job. good luck talking to anyone.
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I see that there is auto things that server sends out to all players maybe that can be something that is added to the list like Hey (name of player) reminder when driving you can not talk to other cars unless stopped.
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3 minutes ago, phobophage said:
OFC it isn't OK, but that is an entirely different crime than what we are discussing in this thread. We are talking about speed cameras, and therefore the crime of speeding. What you just brought up is property damage, reckless endangerment, manslaughter/murder, etc. To say nothing of the server NCZ rules.
my point speed camera would make people slow down and respect there stuff. they would of got a ticket for speeding. making people realize oh I'm gonna speed I may get a fine.
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like to be frank but whats the point of Hands up your getting robbed I am driving a Transport all I may have is a radio, a wiski, and a sub. like really if your that hard on cash that you half to rob someone that is on a job. get out of my way. and talking at 120 kph has to stop unless your in the same car. like i got a car to car transmitter that can hear you. why cant they just follow the truck and wait for it to stop like normal robbers do. they are not going to rob you on the side of hiways. they going to wait till your in a place by your self so they can pounce on you. there should be more rules layed out for criminals.
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I have seen so many people not RP traffic accidents. I was standing at bank with 3 others a car flys up the hill from south heading north smashes all the cars parked almost killing me the guy walks out of car grabs salary and hops in and leaves. Im think wow thats not right. The guy could of rp beeing hurt yes no need for ambulance to show up but at least a sorry for damaging stuff.
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so many fails and so much of them thats a good video man