Jay Plague

Is being able to eat real food instead of cooked meat not a "basic" for a RP server lmfao

... As I have said multiple times. ALL areas should be developed with Crim and Leo the priority. Not just Crim and Leo with nothing to civs for 5 years. There is a reason that most cops and criminals log off the second you are done grinding. And that is cuz there is NOTHING else to do. When you are done with a successful bank job, or cook at a lab. What are you doing? Just running it back? or are you logging off to go do something else?

The reasons criminals don't rely on civs is because of a lack of development. What if player-run restaurants were significantly cheaper than AI-run convenience stores? Would you sometimes decide to buy food from a player instead sometimes? What if a player ran businesses could be robbed? would that not be more fun than hitting the same 5 banks and convience stores? (would also open more opportunities for Security guards, and create more fun for cops with different interiors) as well as offering unique hostage situations. What if player ran business that offered items that COULD NOT be bought from basic automatic stores that provide 0 RP. The reasons civs offer nothing to the server other than events, is we are starved of any sort of devlopment. Even BASIC business ideas get squashed. as you can't offer anything that isn't already being sold by an automated shop that requires zero interaction or RP and chances are your prices will be worse, so no one will choose you over something cheaper and more convenient. That could very easily be changed.

Im really not sure how you can say that. I don't know anyone who's ever joined an RP server because they just wanna drive around and shoot people. That's what GTA Online is for. I don't advocate for CIV RP just cuz im a part of it, The same way I hope you arnt just advocating for cops and robbers since you are LEO player and that fits best for you. This conversation should be about how to better the community, not our own jobs. Most RP servers cater to all 3 areas evenly, to support all players' roleplay. Im sure there are 100s of other players who main jobs like DCC, Bennys, WNN, bayview, and spent 100s of hours building cool and unique propertys in the city they would LOVE to see open more, but the server makes this close to impossible. And just saying "well, this should be a cops and robbers server" and "Peak CIV RP is standing at the pier doing a fishing mini game" is im sure why so many people who dont wanna just run around shooting one another arnt sticking around . I am not the only one who feels this way

I very much disagree that without CIVs the server would be fine. I think CIVs are what give meaning to being a cop or a crim. Without Civilian RP and only cops and crims, everything loses meaning in the long run. I would sure like to think that cops earn a paycheck to buy more than GPSs and Laptops when they die. And I assume crims have other things on the agenda other than crime. or else WHY are you playing an RP server? There are a million games to PVP on, the reason RP servers became popular is that they offer an experience you can't get in other games. At the end of the day, of course, cops and crims should be a priority, as they offer "action". But completely ignoring an entire section of the community is actually wild. CIV activity shouldn't be only "EVENTS". clubs and restaurants, and businesses should be open daily, not twice a year, but the current state of the server makes that impossible. Civs were promised cooking like 4 months ago, which would be a GAME CHANGER for restaurant owners. Instead, we got a bus driving job, in a server that gives you enough money to buy a cheap car day 1??? Like why? 90% of all civ job are drive from Point A, to point B and press E a few times alone. That is not RP, and offers 0 interaction. If you don't have a balance to the grind with downtime, which CIV RP provides, people burn out and leave.

My only point is that the server should be developed in all 3 areas. LEO, Crim, and CIV, to appeal to all play styles and all types of RP. I think if there were more rec and fun time to balance out the "grind," it would have more people join the server and stick around. The server should feel like a full city, not cops and robbers.

Name one thing for a civ to do that isnt a freelance job, clocking into work, or going to an event....

I understand Cops and crims would be the top priority, and they are overdeveloped to say the least. Civ RP should not be shunned away as it is the true unique experience you cant get in most other games. Instead of giving CIVs another freelance Mini game. Give us long-lasting changes, like cooking, farming, crafting, the ability to open a business without buying weazel ads, a functional gym, bowling, golf, boxing, paintball, fishing, and hunting that isn't super lame, and I'm sure more people have a million other good ideas for recreational activities. It's so crazy to me that this server is like 6-7 years old, but when you go to a restaurant, you can't even order real food... it's like RP food, and you are handed a cooked piece of meat. Civ RP gets no love and without CIVs it's just a bunch of cops and crims looking for excuses to PVP. And I really think a lot of people are over that.

I just genuinely think if you focus on "what does a legal or criminal do when they aren't clocked on or "working" you would see a higher retention in the server. As of now it seems like the second you clock off, stop grinding, or stop doing criminal activities. The amount left to do is minimal. This is why 90% of legals sleep in their respective locker rooms and have no life in the city outside of work.

Massive plus +1. Stop the server from being just LEO & CRIMS

Stop thinking the server is only cops and crims, and do something to help CIVs.

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