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TL;DR From a LSPD perspective: We have all your information in our MDC without putting effort in maintaining nor do we investigate cases by putting effort in roleplaying. We're therefore always right (read: because your nametag shows that you're the perpetrator). Hence all your efforts into creating an excuse are invalid.

I wouldn't complain if the MDC was limited to linking a getaway vehicle to an owner. However, the suspect in this case should be in close quarters with the vehicle in order to get associated with it. There was a discussion about this on discord, and some officers were intending to use the MDC excuse for everything. They know your shoe size, your origin, where you've been due to CCTV, and you name it. More or less for everything when there's an arrest, and evidence needs to provided, in order to make it justified you only need to mention "MDC" according to them. Maybe since people think I'm mad about the report, I can tell you in short what happened. Though this is going off topic. It's just an example of what can happen if the MDC excuse is overplayed. 24 hours ago I had been in a chase, where I escaped the cops. Note that my vehicle has blacked windows and I'm a negro wearing a cap, sunglasses and a long coat. The next day there was a RP situation where a person got killed near the Car Market. Obviously 10+ people gathered around, including me. Then a medic and a cop arrives on scene after a 911. The cop pulls over his car and starts using the MDC. Presumed to be MDCing every person in the crowd. Do I need to say more? Next he apprehended me and asked for an ID and stuff. Note that I wasn't near the getaway vehicle from yesterday's chase. When I started a discussion, trying to make this RP more detailed by ICly asking for evidence in multiple ways, he just played the wildcard. "We know you own this car and that house.." "You were there and there" "Your friend is wanted too". Exactly how you described should be fair to both parties. It wouldn't make sense for a suspect to say "I had plastic surgery" or "my twin brother" if it actually didn't happen from a roleplay perspective. It gives the person a wildcard to avoid the jail. But in return there's the police database that is a wildcard for cops to get someone to jail, without putting effort into any investigation or roleplay effort. How do you know what my shoe size is without actually putting roleplay effort to investigate? (exaggeration) Right now the MDC discourages every action that will provide tension/thrills between the cops and suspects. Is he LSPD really getting enjoyment out of pulling over people for routine checks only? I know for a fact that people like having others look up to them. You have to comply at all times, because once you're on the screen of the cop, they have all your information and the right to arrest you at any point if you show your nametag in public. The /mask feature shouldn't be protecting a player against metagaming, otherwise it should be a costless feature. Sounds an overpowered privilege and powergaming to me. You either have the option to become the most loyal citizen or the most wanted criminal. Hi Ethosyde. We're having a proper discussion here, the way you're posting seems like you're triggered and take it too personal. If you're a girl on her period in real life I might understand. But I'll answer your questions. Maybe you just need to know if someone comes close to your achievements in real life before it's justified to take him serious. I'm 21 and I do have a drivers license without any infractions. In fact I probably drive 3 times the amount in a week, than you do in a month. Since I'm 21, I'm attending to a university and have studied economics, management and laws. Now I've shared my background, I can move on. (Don't mind sharing yours, I'm sure you're very succesful in real life and that's the reason of your attitude ) If I was the LSPD, I wouldn't have /MDC'd every guy in the crowd, by nametags. I would actually put effort in the arrest, and wait for solid evidence that the person from yesterday's pursuit is the one I'm eyeballing. For example, when he's driving the getaway vehicle. My main goal here is to provide criticism on the ruleset or to get clarification about it in order to avoid further misunderstandings in the future. As you can tell, it's not about me. If your attitude wasn't that shallow, you could understand that it's much more than just me pleading to be able to "break the law and not go to jail". You're exactly the type of cop that would use the MDC as a wildcard for everytime someone asks you for evidence. Note that this is a roleplay game, and not real life. The information in your so called Talon in real life, is administrated and managed by real people. Even then, it might have flaws of incorrect or outdated information. That's not the case in this server. I suggest you to read up on "powergaming" and how it affects roleplay games. Thanks for the effort in creating a reply, though the written context has 0 contribution to the discussion.

From Wikipedia: In text-based online environments such as MUCKs, MUSHes, and other role-playing (RP) games that emphasize role-play over acquiring levels or skills (as opposed to most MUDs), a player can be described as a powergamer if he or she presumes or declares that his or her own action against another player character is successful without giving the other player character the freedom to act on his or her own prerogative. In other words: during a roleplay session, your actions have a 100% chance of succeeding. In return the opposite party has 0% chance of counter-acting. Now there is the LSPD so called database. I'm creating this thread as a result of the following report: https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/threads/peter-beense-kevin-porter-for-metagaming.1882/ and I'm curious what opinions are within the playerbase. Apparently this database which the LSPD has acces to has information to every personal detail, posessions and features of our characters. For example: when an officer is driving behind you, he's able to gather all your information based on your license plate. That also means, if you succesfully escape a chase, they have the ability to know your name, vehicles and real estate. Therefore, they're able to arrest you at any time, if you show up in public. But in reality, the person behind the computer, playing the police character just reads your name tag in every situation. In my opinion this so called database is a synonym to powergaming. Every dispute between a cop and a civillian will be won by the LSPD. Just simply because they have acces to the "database". The civillian has no way to prove the cop wrong, because EVERYTHING is registered in the database. Yet in terms of effort and administration, the LSPD isn't doing anything to upkeep this database. The cop loses you in a chase, but spots your name tag. He places a warrant on your head just because he saw - what is assumed to be - your car. The next day, you're just chilling at a public place. A cop drives by and MDC's every nametag he sees nearby. They just MDC your name, and see your warrants. Apparently this is enough reason to arrest you, because you know.. "database". "Who cares what vehicles/houses/clothes you posses?" In my opinion, if this is allowed, we should also allow civillians to have things like fake ID's, plastic surgery, twin brothers, licenseplate changes and what not to make it fair for them. Otherwise, the PD is always right when it comes to roleplay actions that never took place in the first place. You see where I'm going with this thread? In short, the database allows for no input from the other party in a roleplay scene. So a clarification regarding this matter to avoid misunderstandings would be nice. I know from experience in previous roleplay servers, that a "database" for law enforcement agencies always results in powergaming/metagaming disputes if it isn't actually being upkept manually by the law enforcement faction. Also based on words from the LSPD in the linked report: - You should ALWAYS pull over when a cop is telling you to. Creating a pursuit for entertainment purposes is no option, even though we are playing a game for fun. - Once you flee, you become the most notorious/wanted person in Los Santos. You can never show your face in public, because that wil get you arrested since the LSPD can recognize you by just smelling your perfume. - Everytime a cop reads your name tag OOCly, gives him the right to identify you ICly because he has the database and knows every detail about your character. - You cannot roleplay anything to avoid the database. - When a cop feels like arresting some bad guys, he just visits the car lot and /mdc's all of our names. One of us will have a warrant. He walks up to you and asks for an identification. Bingo! He has a reason to put you in jail for an hour! What are your opinions on this matter?