Gekko
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I think there should be a general page somewhere which includes information about gang system itself and how stuff works (Just general information), without mentioning specific names.
NO. Keep IC stuff as IC.
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This rule of kidnapping is stupid, I would say 30 min of kidnap should be okay more than that would need permission or if there's rp going they would be allowed to leave if they need to go.
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4 hours ago, Donovan said:
Dont wanna necro but feel like I have to, because people here are just complaining and saying stuff for the purpose of complaining and saying stuff
All and all, there are more than 10 different reasons as to why gangs usually stick to a specific color, specially as they are growing up so they can be clearly distinguished and create their image in the city and underground scene, but it is never just as a flex or show of dominance, its mostly to avoid dramas, conflicts and confusion between members of the said gang and allied/neutral gang members.
After all, I still believe and always will that it is an IC issue, if anyone ever wanted to fight for a color they could've and they always will be able to, there is a reason why some groups are rocking a color for more than 2 years and some groups lost it in a matter of weeks.. Stop taking IC into OOC, and start building for yourself ingame instead of on forums/discords
The only thing i have about this, that people target you only cuz of certain colour, not dressed blue but driving blue vehicle while wearing a suit and gangs already will hunt you. As I said, I've been in PD for half year and it was a common thing hearing from criminals "why did you check our license plate or searched my name, what's the reason?" If you represent a gang and you're known gang member obviously you're sus as hell.
That's my only point on this if people wants to keep this as IC gangs have no right to complain when PD follows/inspects them since they're known to have relations to gangs or even did crime many times... -
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Just now, XAN donquixote said:
I think jail times should be in days not minutes and what make it more mussed up is the stamp system which can help them leave jail fast..
it's not even that... robbing on sight was appropriate for few years... problem is with people mentality
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Hold up...
You said "on my way there two nice guys in black car stole everything i have..."
that's a shitty RP man... This community is really cancerous they will steal everything and then complain if they get cought that jail time is too long... -
25 minutes ago, Jleoni said:
Where is it?
Corruption is ICly enforeced only afaik, mostly through their black-hole of an IA portal on the IC gov websiteIt is oocly, I got thrown out of PD just cuz of rewarding random people with good rp by not puting all charges, lets say people actually handing themselves while robbing a store. I was not even caught of doing it, I was just saying in the forums that I did and that was it bye bye PD.
PD has really loads of rules that you need to obey, but I know how messy it is, lets say pursuits, shootouts, cops not valuating hostage life and so on. But I know the other side of criminals as well, trying to abuse everything and balancing on the line of crossing the rules.
The problem on this server that people wants actually to win rather than have fun, money is ultimate goal in here not the experience of rp.-
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People are treating this just that simple nerf to PD will fix this... no...
This is 2 communities PD and Crims that are willing to tear each others throat while in fact they should be working hand in hand to have fun... Just cuz you will nerf PD nothing will change in fact i think PD should have stronger and more clearer rules how to handle situations, ramming cars driving on 200km/h is not a good choice, shooting people just cuz they run also. IA is another topic that should have trusted members in it from outside PD, not related to PD nor Crims and be objective with it since not IA belongs to PD and PD is a family, keeping in mind only low tier cops will get punished for some stuff that higher ups wont.... Chases causes more havoc in the city than criminals. I mean police standarts should be way higher in all fields.
Tho crims most of the time pushes boundries or plays dirty, abuses bugs and so on... Believe me I have seen it many times, not saying all people does that but I understand would i take my risk to abuse something for 6 hours jail time and be salty? I think everyone would do that.
Main problem is that... everyone on this server has a responsibility to create fun RP for other party and have fun in RP situations, but most of the times if you want to have fun in it you will just get abused by PD/Crims.
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6 hours ago, Flucifial said:
+1 on lootable weapons and locker room limits.
-1 on shorter prison sentences and legal faction member limits (Criminals used to outnumber law enforcement, now it's the opposite which is how it should be in my opinion.)
I agree on that but what lootable weapons would lead to if caught? massive jail time? their house raid? There should be a punishment for taking a cop gun in the first place cuz people would make PD officers walking drops.
Because if someone would find a PD riffle on guy shooting at cops, oh boy oh boy to be in fact loads of gangs got raided by SWAT just cuz they killed one or two police officers.
I actually think the main problem is that criminals can't function without shadow currency, everything is related to your bank, cash is not important as if, there's no way to go indebt while actually have millions in your possesion. Believe me there's loads of even billionairs working in such way that has nothing in their "possesion" apart shadow money. -
This is not PD nor Criminals fault to be honest, the server been working from a beginning not to have fun but to grind and win situations and I have seen it from both sides.
PD truthfully does not want to have fun rather to win situations and you can hear that in TAC situations where when you lose someone there will be remarks like "ughh" and so on. I know there is a lack of training in the PD as well, officers rushing criminals for no reason while they have AK47 in their hands, pursuits are sometimes just a shit show and the most importantly to punish people as hard as you can, that is their mentality. Do I blame them for this? No, that's how server/admins and people in high positions let it go for ages.
Although this is not one sided thing as well, Criminals does the same things, they tend even to break the rules because lets be real you're rp'ing a gang member, YOU ARE EXPECTED to run away from police, not to snitch and so and so on but tht will result in loads shit of fines + jail time therefore lets be serious there won't be fun interactions where the border line is that you will be jailed for 6 hours. Criminals tend to as well overpower their caracters while they're cuffed on the ground they "roll away" in a second and jump in friends car, people trying to help their friends while irl noone drives up to you just to say "get in".
My point is that this is not PD nor Criminals problem, this is EVERYONES problem, everyone is at fault, server been operating like that for ages where you had to win, not to have fun, noone is trying to create fun RP for the other side and so on. But I still have some hope that one day people will actually want to Roleplay and you will hear laughter from broken characters as well as dropping "I must win" situation. -
7 hours ago, Rykarch said:
Sadly, the whole criminal scene is a huge joke on Eclipse, and gang members especially look out for people wearing the same colour as them for specific reasons, but I think they do it mainly because they might confuse you with someone else in the future..
It's not even that, I've been driving in the city and gang wearing blue (we all know who) pulled me over and started asking do I have a mask, I said no i'm not in a gang.
Then he proceeded to push that I have one and said "let me frisk you", I asked if he's joking we're in the middle of the road and I'm just minding my bussiness. Then he threatened me and I asked if it's smart to threaten offduty police officer, he got out and tried to pull his ak-47 on me.
Obviously I drove off and for the next 30 minutes i had 8 blue cars chasing me around the city lol. And i know what you thinking, maybe I looked like a gang member? No I was driving my black diamon while wearing a suit.-
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Sheriff: Sir you're on the highway, please leave or you will be arrested.
Idiot: I WoNt LeAVe. I waNt TO sTAy HeRE. ArRESt mE.
Sheriff: Then you're under arrest.
Idiot: Ooh
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2 hours ago, Broker said:
'' This was your choice last year they gave people a chance and some people took that chance and some people just didn't care.'' Well back in that time there was no such things as Firearms License, so people didn't know about what they can risk off, I'm assure if people would know that there would be Firearms License and rules about not getting them, they wouldn't risk and do that kind of stuff what could not getting those licenses.
Mhm, you're right, I've been thinking about what you said and yes, people do some stupid stuff. We need to give people another chance +1 for this although i think this should take some time to prove that people are not going back to crime lets say 5 months ((IRL)) and they could get their license back.
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27 minutes ago, Broker said:
I'm sorry that you think that way but I guess if you would be in our situation you would think differently, that people who actually spent lot of time to be legal and stay out of trouble, they deserve second chance.
I've spent a lot of time being legal, being shot at, talked shit to where I could've lost control, saw many people who were easy targets to rob or so on. This was your choice last year they gave people a chance and some people took that chance and some people just didn't care. Having a gun license is a privilege for people who works hard to help Los Santos community. As I said gun license is a privilege not a must for everyone.
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1 minute ago, OBESE said:
Wait, if I remember correctly, I might be mistaken, when the firearms licenses were introduced in the way they are now, everyone lost theirs, so it was said that all the crimes before introducing this license will not count. The licenses were added last year May, so if you're saying your last time in prison was 1 year and 4 months ago, then it was at least 2-3 months before the license wipe and the new system was introduced, which means, that those criminal records that you have should not matter and you should be able to get a license.
Maybe someone can share a light on what I said. I might not remember correctly or something.
I think it was like that, but criminals do crimes like kids eats their candies. It doesn't matter how much you've done.
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Goverment should never allow people to retake their license you did crimes for a reason, therefore pay your due. (( OOCLY talking people don't consider their story and don't understand the path they take as a criminal, people who just join server "lets kill someone" ))
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My name is Kenzo Gekko, and sir, do you know the law? Do you know if police has sirens/lights you gotta move out of their way and stop at the side of the road even without using megaphone? ((OOCLY you won't be able to type while driving, need voip for that))
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It's not worth to invest in this car, nothing amazing about it. ((Traction loss for a car is almost non existant in this server therefore flash GT performs almost the same like other super cars on dirt while IRL you won't take super car off road since it will get totaled))
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10 minutes ago, MrJangoon said:
This is commonly known as a joke:-
A joke is defined as follows:- a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
I Feel oppressed, LSPD HEEELP
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As far as I'm aware intent of making and planning to hurt someone is imprisonment for life.
I don't feel safe anymore in Los Santos.
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Just now, kenichis said:
Robberies IRL have witnesses that can direct the police. In Eclipse its not possible. Plus what are you gonna rob anyways? A GPS? Theres no point.
And It's not even about robberies, but people mentality on this server + FEARRP makes braindead robberies so OP. Most of the people won't be mad to lose their shit if it was worth losing = if they will get a good roleplay out of it.
And about the FearRP part. My best friend brother was police officer for 20 years in America... and he always said, shitties day was when you have to pull a gun out on someone, because people are going crazy then and it doesnt mean that they ain't afraid of their life. But people get such huge adrenaline rush that they don't understand what the fuck is going on, they might run, try to fight (yeah against a gun, bare fists), piss themelves, scream, start crying and so on and so on. But in this server rules state that if someone pulls a gun out on you, you're their bitch and it never helped for robbing mentality in this server.-
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11 minutes ago, fullfart said:
Shitty RP? You mean boring RP with just talking and no action? There is nothing to afraid of and your permit for you gun will be useless because you will never get to use it. It's like DAYZ, you hate dying and starting over, but that risk makes the game so much more fun and exciting. They are removing a core element with this new no robbing rules.
Boring RP with just talking no action? You're litteraly just said what you're after for. THIS IS A CORE ELEMENT FOR PEOPLE THAT KNOWS FUCK ALL ABOUT RP'ING. (((And to the people who thinks that talking RP is boring I suggest you to start actually looking into streamers who plays on nopixel and most of their roleplay experience is based on TALKING and they never rob random people for no reason))
Do you know you can still fuck with a people just got to know how to do that? YOU understand that WORDS can lead to ACTIONS? (Thing is that you don't want to get into confrontation, because then they might get a gun out and oh boy oh boy, you don't want to lose, you're just for that FearRP) Do you get such simple things?
NO YOU don't because the only thing you can do is "HAAAANDS OOOP" to a player who tries to fill up his gas. Players with rp like yours plagued this server for years and years to the point where most of the criminals thinks this is a norm and once server clearly said we're trying to move from this, we're still going to do it...
And you question that it's not a shity RP? That's how 100% your whole robbing rp goes into:
Hands oop i have a gun
You move I shoot
/ME pats the man down
/DO success?
/ME attempts to take items away
/Do success?
LETS DIP DIP DIP DIP-
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Server is trying to move from shitty rp, stop being like a fucking ex and looking at the past how it was before, just move on and improve yourself.
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Old Criminal RP can't be even called RP. The rule of "hands oop i have a gun" is too op.
Criminal: Hands up or I'll shoot
/me searches man
/do What would i find?
/Me attempts to take everything from the victim
/do success?
You call this ROLEPLAY? You're litteraly are a problem and that's why this rule was introduced "I miss robbing farmers" - you're serious or just joking?
Imagine playing on a roleplay server while the most fun thing to do is robbing farmers... because it's so fun to point a gun and just take it without any other interaction... AYYYY
There's a thief simulator game if you like robbing people so much, you don't need to be on a roleplay server.-
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Question about gangs
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Everything related to anything that operates inside the server is IC... Please understand that, thank you in advance.