Kaii

Date and time (provide timezone): 9/27/2017 - 5:15AM - AEST timezone. Character name: Kai_Tsukasa Issue/bug you are reporting: Basically in the plastic surgery menu it won't show hairstyles. Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: As far as I know every other feature in the plastic surgery list works.

No, I totally get this. This is a good point and obviously you can't RP in that position but this is not the situation I'm talking about. But if someone wants to roleplay they should be given the chance not just instantly cuffing them, if they are running and don't want to RP then fair enough but if they are attempting to roleplay and you don't give a chance to then why should they play on a server that literally has roleplay in the name when no one roleplays?

Yeah that is fair enough, if they are trolls they should be reported and dealt with out of character and if they are needing to be tazed/cuffed for example then they should be, an admin should always be contacted though in that situation, a player (cop in this case) shouldn't need to break a rule. Since this is voice chat as well, people generally think if you are roleplaying as anything out of the ordinary or you are insulting their characters in game that you are toxic or trolling. A lot of people seem to think because I say, "Fuck you, you'll never capture me you commie fuck!" that I'm either trolling or being toxic to them OOC. Which I'm not, I'm roleplaying as someone who is very clearly mentally unstable. Whilst some people I've came across RP'd accordingly, others took it OOC personally and I even got arrested for trespassing, even though I was attempting to hand in my tickets, lets not get into that though. It is common sense that if the person is running away or driving away and you have no time to RP, you don't RP. But for stuff like attempting to cuff, they should be given a fair chance, just like anyone in the real world would. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention the server name, you can always edit my comment. But the SA:MP server, LS-RP, has had this in place for a while now. If it is something like pulling out a weapon whilst someone is typing out some roleplay, you give them some time to react, same applies for driving away in a vehicle since some people may not be touch typing, they may not be looking at their keyboard. If a cop writes you a ticket but as he is doing the /me for this ticket and you decided to drive away, obviously in real the cop would instantly run for his cop car and wouldn't be waiting (aka typing). I kinda find it hard to what I'm getting across but basically in the current rules, they clearly allow for powergaming because you are forcing roleplay on someone without punishment when you should. Especially for cases in which it makes you go to jail (basically being unable to RP for an extend period of time), getting you killed or just cuffing you up because someone knows how to type a command. If the person is stopped, and you attempt to cuff them, meaning they are not running away, you are both static, you allow them to react instead of just doing /cuff or a "/b hey can you please to /up so I can cuff you?" which by the why, I've seen A LOT of officers do this exact thing.

Basically in the rules. It DIRECTLY contradicts as to what powergaming is. Powergaming rules from a popular SA:MP server that has done PG right for a long time; Powergaming can be defined as performing acts that are not humanlike; forcing roleplay on others without giving them a fair chance; making up things which did not happen so that you can benefit; roleplaying things which are not possible script-wise so that you can gain an unfair advantage. Example: Roleplaying that an item is not on you ICly when it is already on you script-wise. (e.g. during frisks). I watched a man in PD get frisked, they RP'd that he had a fake ID on him even though info matched on the database and the license. He has to serve 3 hours for literally nothing but PG from the officers involved because they FORCED roleplay on to him, which he didn't want, they forced him to have a fake ID through PG. Also police and I assume everyone else on the server don't have to RP grabbing your arm, literally not giving you a fair chance. The rules for PG on this server are as follows. Roleplaying something unrealistically ridiculous or forcing roleplay actions on other players by using the /me command is not allowed and is classed as power gaming. Forceful server commands, such as, /cuff or /mug are not considered as powergaming. You are literally not roleplaying and inputting a command when you /cuff or /mug someone, people can resist in real life and should be able to in game. Anyone with common sense of what PG is can clearly see that FORCING a command and putting their character in a RP situation is literally forcing roleplay actions on another. The player should have time to react just like in real life. Same with grabbing someone whilst cuffed, the person could begin running upon being grabbed or something a like. You literally give no room to resist at all, don't come at me with that bullshit that, "if you were in that situation in real life you wouldn't try and run." My brother did just a year ago, literally ran from police and continued to fight back when they pinned him down and he isn't even a criminal. I could imagine a criminal that possesses a gun that has since been taken away, a person that could go to jail for a long time wouldn't just give up and be like "Oh well I guess the caught me, golly gosh darn I better comply." No, they would fight back. Basically all I'm saying is. If you want a roleplay server allow roleplay and allow a fair chance cause if you get caught by PD, you have zero chance because there is not a single rule that prevents them from PGing. Even if you reject this, I'd love to know the reason as to why you are against this before you reject it so we can have a debate.

It would've been my name is "Kai" on Discord.

Been doing RP on SA:MP for years, since 2007-2008 whenever RP servers started getting popular. Decided to try out Eclipse RP since this seems like the future for GTA RP in general, still play SA:MP often, holding off getting into Eclipse until GTA Network has been optimized.