Billy,Bob

I do the the other side though, I would call 1 unit showing up to a robbery rekless and they should wait for backup. But my point i have been trying to make is that AIR support and 6+ unit's to a store robbery is excessive in my opinion, and im not saying they should let criminals evade or show up at a disadvantage posision just for it not to be so one sided if that makes sense. I agree that would help and might be something i would do if i decide to go back. But i feel like there should be a way to make these situations less frustrating for both sides? Assuming there it 2 police officers per unit that would be in total of max 14 police officers for a store robbery where there are potentally 4 robbers with pistols, that is alot of officers in my opinion. In my situation what made their response a over the top was the AIR support because there is no way of escaping it without a high end car. I thought store robbery was a semi entry job for criminals, is it meant to be for experianced cirminals with good cars?

I'm not saying that they should let somone evade or let somone win for entertainment. The point im trying to make is that police should respond to the crime being committed appropriately. In my opinion responding with 4+ cop cars to somone speeding is excessive, or calling in AIR support for a store robbery. And if the situation escalates they can always call in for backup, i don't se how that makes cops letting you evade.

In my case we did not dive straight into criminal path, we started with legal jobs but we got bored of that and got contact with criminals that told us about various things. And i hope what i have seen is not how response i supposed to work because i know that i am not the only one that is frustrated about this.

yes sure if i was caught red handed like in my house robbery attempts, but in this scenario they had suspicion yes but could not possibly know for sure. Police rp's that they have evidance from security cameras in the store but they do not actually know what happens in there so they don't know if my story is true or not. So what i want is that we RP it out, for example we go back to the store and check the footage and so on. But they refused to rp the situation and just do the easy thing and just throw me in jail instead. I don't think you understand how much the information the air support gives is valued, how is a criminal especially a new one supposed to get away if there always is a helicopter above giving information where they are? Maybe i do have terrible luck but every scenario i have been in the police responds with overwhelming force, but i don't mind losing aslong i get some fun rp out of it. I do not agree with that, as a new player i have much less chance of getting away. And yes i am a terrible criminal and would still get caught even if there was 2 police cars responding but i would have a chance, I do not have a chance when 10 cop cars show up and some has SWAT gear. I don't know how old these gang stories are and if it's relevant to this. To think that i need alot of experiance and expensive cars and equipment to rob a store and not a bank is just crazy in my mind. But everything can't be like it's in real life because it does not translate well to gameplay.

Sadly i do not have any footage. I do understand your point on lawyers and judges. what was frustrating for me in that scenario was that the cops had already decided my fate before i could plead my case, I'm fine with going to jail but atleast let me plead my case so i can get some rp out of it. I do not agree with your point on AIR response to Store robbery. Police should respond to the situatuin with proper amount of force and responding with AIR support is in my opinion excessive and in a gameplay point of view unfair. Because the criminals doing store robberys probably does not have the best cars and already has a hard time evading 6 police cars, so adding a helicopter to that makes it impossible for the criminal to win. And like you a chase is fun for both sides but if the power balance is uneven it's not fun for both sides. What i mean with abusing police equipment is when the police responds with excessive force that makes it impossible for the criminal to win. Like when they respond with way to many police vehicles, comes with SWAT gear to a store robbery or like my earlier point respond with AIR support when it's not needed. It's supposed to be fun for both sides and when you have to be in jail for hours after a situation you hade no chance of winning or getting any rp just sucks.

Me and a couple of friends decided that we wanted to try out GTA RP so we joined Eclipse. The initial experiance was good, we got whitelisted fast and earned some money form legal jobs, bought new cars and were starting to save for a house. I'd say i had a good experiance up until i had interaktions with police and the justice system. My first interaktion was with a police officer who T-boned me in a intersektion, i tried to rp the scenarion with me going unconscious from the collision and so on but as soon as i did that the cop started to tell me i was annoying and an idiot and refused to rp the scenario out. All that cop wanted to do was get out of the scenario and move on not trying to rp with me just calling me a bunch of slurs and left the scene. I made a report but no one took my ticket so i just logged of and moved on. My next few interaktions was me being cought red handed doing house robberies, i was thrown i jail instantly with barely any rp but to be fair i was cought red handed so there was not much to debate. But the most recent interaktion made me want to quit the server because it felt like the police don't care about rping with you and just want to throw you in jail and move on to the next thing kinda like it's a chore. So what happened was that me and 2 friend wanted to do store robberies and i wanted to get som rp out of it if we got caught so i went unarmed so i could claim that i was held hostage and forced to help them. We eventually got caught and they read my my rights so i told them i wanted a lawyer because it's my right and that i was innocent, but they told me i did not have that right because there would be no interrogation because they know i did the robbery. They refused to entertain me being innocent and continue the rp. I tried my best to get rp out of the police but everytime i get thrown in to jail without any chance of debating my case. I can't even get a court case going because there are no lawyers or judges so i just got the feeling there was no point of even trying enymore. And what's up with the police power gaming every scenario? Getting pulled over for a traffic stop and 4 police cars show up? Doing a store robbery and a police helikopter and 6+ police car chasing you? I have played on this server for about a week now and already got tired of it. There is minimum rp going especially with the police, they refuse to give criminals a chanse to win by power gaming every time with evidance that does not exist , abusing police equipment and refusing to rp with you once you get caught. After all of this i saw no point in continue playing on the server because no matter what i do i will just get thrown in jail with minimum rp and get as many charges they can place on me. I made this post so i gave give my point of view of the server and hopefully open the admins eyes to the state of the server.