Camilo Guzman Posted May 10, 2020 Report Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) So first off I'm very new around here and new to RP in general. I've been playing for about a week and to since I want to take this RP seriously for the benefit of everyone, I've been lurking in the archives of player reports to better acquaint myself with the rules. Originally when I looked over the rules I thought in my head it was pretty clear cut, but after seeing some cases I can see there is a lot of situations where it's very grey. Some decisions I flat out disagreed with but other reports upset me it was even reported at all because of the IC situation. A few examples include: 1. Jabbering off to a rival gang, antagonizing them, and reporting them when they retaliate with gun fire and ramming because they didn't follow the proper robbery rules. 2. An officer giving chase to to criminals who are shooting from a vehicle, and the officer is expected to fall back without pursuing any further. 3. High end cars not being able to ram other vehicles simply because they are in an expensive vehicle. If I was in danger of my life or I was in a really bad feud with a rival IC wise, it doesn't matter what I'm driving I'm gonna try to ram you off the road. 4. Getting in trouble for fear RP when someone has a gun pointed at them but they are close enough to a vehicle to get away. 5. Farmer gets robbed in an empty field by a few people, robbers make a clean getaway with no witnesses yet are still considered breaking the rules because the farmer didn't have anything valuable enough on their person and there was a CHANCE that someone would come even though no one ever did. I do not want the city to dissolve into chaos at all. I actually have really been enjoying the ups and downs so far. However in most of these cases, I don't see why some can't just simply take the loss and move on without having to report an inconvenience done to them. Being ran over randomly is infuriating or getting gun downed while unprovoked is terrible, those I feel are the things that should be reported asap. Excuse me if i come across as ignorant or condoning random in game killing and murder. I assure you I don't and have never even tried robbing another player. I've been robbed myself without much stuff on me, arrested realistically because I was speeding and never had a problem with any of it. Also if you recognize any of the cases above and were involved, I'm not calling you guys out or anything like that. They are just simply my opinion on them and wanted to discuss them. Edited May 10, 2020 by Camilo Guzman
Machete Posted May 10, 2020 Report Posted May 10, 2020 If I were you I'd read the player report section regulary as a lot the rules are not black and white. The grey area is so large that I suggest you start of as a legal character untill you've read enough forum reports to start roleplaying without getting a punishment. Not every admin/mod will rule the same so there is punishment appeal section if you feel like you've been punished wrongfully.
Franci_King Posted May 10, 2020 Report Posted May 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Camilo Guzman said: 4. Getting in trouble for fear RP when someone has a gun pointed at them but they are close enough to a vehicle to get away. 5. Farmer gets robbed in an empty field by a few people, robbers make a clean getaway with no witnesses yet are still considered breaking the rules because the farmer didn't have anything valuable enough on their person and there was a CHANCE that someone would come even though no one ever did. when was the last time or actually the first time that a group of at least 2 people go into a farmers field and steal his wheat crops.. lets make it count.. max u will get from a full van of crops is 2.4k. 2 guns=14k minimum+masks that u will drop after + car being detected and reported to police + zipties... hmmm split it by 2.. ok you just won 1.1k from robbing a farmer lmao
Franci_King Posted May 10, 2020 Report Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, NM369 said: If I were you I'd read the player report section regulary as a lot the rules are not black and white. The grey area is so large that I suggest you start of as a legal character untill you've read enough forum reports to start roleplaying without getting a punishment. Not every admin/mod will rule the same so there is punishment appeal section if you feel like you've been punished wrongfully. yea thats true.. however u cant rob anyone with the new rules at the working place or at the dropoff.. excluding the fisher job or hunting job as they are remote most of the time but even those u cant rob at dropoffs. this is a fact ive asked multiple admins. their respond was if u r smart enough to trick the dudes to come to a corner or in a back ally yeah , otherwise no u cant rob them directly at dropofffs.. which i agree
Camilo Guzman Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Posted May 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, Franci_King said: when was the last time or actually the first time that a group of at least 2 people go into a farmers field and steal his wheat crops.. lets make it count.. max u will get from a full van of crops is 2.4k. 2 guns=14k minimum+masks that u will drop after + car being detected and reported to police + zipties... hmmm split it by 2.. ok you just won 1.1k from robbing a farmer lmao Probably around 1867 to answer your first question lol. No I could understand how frustrating that is especially when I just started farming myself. However you assumed they bought those things. Who is to say they didn't just rob the masks or found those guns somewhere on the ground (I have). That being said the drop off should be NCZ since I would assume there are cameras around etc, but if you're in a field, by yourself, and criminals are desperate enough, I don't see a problem with that. 4 hours ago, NM369 said: If I were you I'd read the player report section regulary as a lot the rules are not black and white. The grey area is so large that I suggest you start of as a legal character untill you've read enough forum reports to start roleplaying without getting a punishment. Not every admin/mod will rule the same so there is punishment appeal section if you feel like you've been punished wrongfully. Yes I do plan on lurking on there for a while. I don't want to be unfair or burden anyone, so I haven't robed or got violent with anyone. However my thing is I think reporting should really be a last resort kind of thing. I would find it annoying to stop playing and leave my immersive experience to either accuse someone on the forum of unfair play, or having to defend myself against them. I know there is a rule against reporting people willy nilly, but I don't think it's really enough. I think if the situation is grey, take the loss and move on just to avoid all that OOC stuff. I know I come off as like a frustrated criminal or whatever but I'm really not, I just think we as a community can do better with handling frustrating situations in game.
