David_Nickelback [14], Jamal_Debose [127] | NRP

[OBhx]

Player(s) being reported: ID 14 and ID 127
Date of interaction reported: 12/06/2021.
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1623512069. 

Your character name: David Buck.
Other player(s) involved: ID 95, ID 49, ID 138

Specific rule(s) broken:

9. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.
• Players are required to remain IC at all times. RP can only be paused or voided by admins.
• If a crash / disconnect occurs, players must post in the crash reports discord channel and contact all parties to resume. Players reconnecting must be given all opportunities held prior.
• Players should not instigate situations they do not have time to play through. If a player is chased they must wait 15 minutes before they can log out of the game.
• Players can’t depict their character with real images or game images not possible on ECRP.
• Examples: Ignoring RP, baiting government services without proper IC reason, asking to be killed or forcing your own death, unrealistic stunt jumping, misusing expensive vehicles, using script work vehicles for other purpose, submerging any vehicle in water intentionally, swimming for an unrealistic amount of time in a chase, or stealing from / tampering with an OOC F4 menu.
• Non-off road vehicles may not drive up mountains or steep hills. LSEMS & Mechanics are exempt.

How did the player break the rule(s)?
As it is possible to see on the video, 4 members of the Russian Mob decided to start to rob some stores, we started robbing hungry hunters, as we start to rob the store and we already have the shop clerk under gunpoint to avoid the alarm getting triggered, its possible to see at (1:02) a white car passing the store, we spotted them but we never expect them to turn around, as its possible to see on the video, the two players stop their car and start a rob us while we are robbing the store, forcing us to put our hands up and getting us on our knees, forcing me to stop aiming at the shop clerk forcing the alarm to get triggered. Its possible to see how little the intention was to actually rob us because you guys only asked to drop the gun, didnt even asked for the packed money, if your intentions were the money you would just follow us into the money launder and rob us there. Me personally never had any contact with this players or gang denominated by "Vory" and I would like to know their intentions on conduction a robbery while a shop robbery its already ongoing forcing the alarm get triggered.

Evidence of rule breach:
https://youtu.be/1czh5Pj-PwE

Edited June 13, 2021 by OBhx

[Doan]

PLAYER REPORT PENDING REVIEW

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Thank you for submitting this player report.

This report will now be pending review by myself & @Harveyyy. During this time, we ask you to refrain from any back-and-forth in this report between players involved.

Regards,

Doan & Harveyyy.

[Harveyyy]

PENDING RESPONSE
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After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story:

• [@hashishas] - David_Nickelback [14] - Can you explain the rationale of entering the store, aiming guns and giving demands to the players while they were robbing it, then fleeing the scene? Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have.

• [@JamalBratan] - Jamal_Debose [127] - Can you explain the rationale of entering the store, aiming guns and giving demands to the players while they were robbing it, then fleeing the scene? Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have.

If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
Harveyyy & Doan

Edited June 14, 2021 by Harveyyy

[hashishas]

Hey, David Nickelback there, first of al I want to thank you for taking this report and reviewing it. So first of all we had couple of interactions with this group aka small shootouts. So me and Jamal was going towards north to the last backup call from our crew while we was on the way I noticed 4bikes next to the store which was obvious that someone is robbing store. So we turned around and went for the closer look, we noticed that theres only 1 guy with the gun ans hes from the rival crew so we rushed in, took the gun and tried to lrave the scene as fast as possible before police nor backup arives, as it was active criminal scene no idea where we did something wrong when everything worked to our benefit and as planned. 

Also I would like to add that this group takes every single interaction to forum for the pettiest things cause of the events icly. Nothing more  I would like to add. Regards.

[Doan]

PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED

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Thank you for your patience while this report has been under review.

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached, we have decided to accept this report and issue the following punishment(s):

 

David_Nickelback & Jamal_Debose│ID 14 & 127: NRP - As shown in the evidence, the two of you went into a store that was getting robbed by four people and attempted to rob them. It is not realistic for you to see four bikes, as two people, and engage yourself in a situation where the possibility of harming your character is high and putting your character's life at risk. You disregarded the safety of your character and potentially being arrested for one pistol.

Just because you only saw one player holding a gun does not mean that the others are not, and it is almost safe to assume that every person involved in a store robbery would be armed. Just because you pass by an active crime scene does not mean that you have the rights to rob or kill the people involved.

Also, you can not continously attack players that are apart of "rival" factions. You need valid reason and proper escalation before you rob/kill players, and them being a part of a the enemy side is not a valid enough reason.

 

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format.

This report is now locked and archived.

Regards,

Doan & Harveyyy.