Jessica Nash(NRP)

[Juan menez]

Player(s) being reported: Id 264, Jessica Nash
Date of interaction reported: 06/11/2021
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1623451032

Your characters name: Owen Fade
Other player(s) involved: N/A

Specific rule(s) broken:

 Non-Roleplay (NRP)

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.
• Players are required to remain IC at all times. RP can only be paused or voided by admins.
• If a crash / disconnect occurs, players must post in the crash reports discord channel and contact all parties to resume. Players reconnecting must be given all opportunities held prior.
• Players should not instigate situations they do not have time to play through. If a player is chased they must wait 15 minutes before they can log out of the game.
• Players can’t depict their character with real images or game images not possible on ECRP.
• Examples: Ignoring RP, baiting government services without proper IC reason, asking to be killed or forcing your own death, unrealistic stunt jumping, misusing expensive vehicles, using script work vehicles for other purpose, submerging any vehicle in water intentionally, swimming for an unrealistic amount of time in a chase, or stealing from / tampering with an OOC F4 menu.
• Non-off road vehicles may not drive up mountains or steep hills. LSEMS & Mechanics are exempt.

How did the player break the rule(s)? 
While I wasnt involved in the report but for a fraction of time before my outage it is seen that the reported party is jumping to avoid being shot not once but multiple times. In a last ditch effort after being shot multiple times decides to jump over the ledge which had she not been injured would have been on a steep downhill to avoid shots. Having full armor I believe she should have sought out better cover or made an attempt to shoot at my allies because at that point I had crashed. I believe this promoted very poor and unrealistic rp. I would have mentioned this in the report made against me but to avoid getting off topic of the reports against me I feel its best this is made into a separate report. As I said this isn't a revenge report but a report to keep the one I am in not clogged up with multiple accusations.

Evidence of rule breach: 
https://streamable.com/fojj54 (her pov) https://streamable.com/se9kbh (jerrys) 

Edited June 12, 2021 by Juan menez

[ArcAngel]

Thank you to whomever takes this report.

I can provide my pov but its also available on the report made against the player who is reporting me now.

 

I wasn't jumping to avoid being shot, as I exited my vehicle my scroll wheel was bugging out as you can see in my POV. Then when I tried to take cover behind the Vacca, it forced me on top of the car, I again tried to pull my weapon and I couldn't which landed me on the wall. 

You can see in my pov that my weapon was bugging into my hands then out again. It wasn't intentional at all which is clear in my POV so unsure why this is being reported.

The same way the reporting party is trying to roll to enable the weapon to equip, is the same thing I tried to do, because the first time I tried to equip, it didn't work. The second time it started to, I tried to roll to equip and avoid shots, it didn't work I jumped, I tried to repeat, no dice. I tried to take cover behind the vacca no dice, I tried to equip I final time, no. This is all  visible in my POV and THEIRS for that matter you can see me trying to equip and the animation to equip starting but not finishing.

If I die, I lose nothing. It makes zero logical sense for me to jump around like an idiot to avoid being shot. If I were avoiding shots I'd have just run away completely or got back into my vehicle and backed away. Not to mention the fact I play 40+ hours a week and am involved in a multitude of situations similar to this, if I get shot, i get shot.

None-the-less, will leave it up to administration to review and see for themselves.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me.

Edited June 13, 2021 by arcangel

[Juan menez]

"I wasn't jumping to avoid being shot, as I exited my vehicle my scroll wheel was bugging out as you can see in my POV. Then when I tried to take cover behind the Vacca, it forced me on top of the car, I again tried to pull my weapon and I couldn't which landed me on the wall. "

 

This honestly makes no sense to me. Your scroll wheel didn't work and would not swap to your gun so your instinct is to jump? You have 2 cars right in front of you all you had to do was press q and either tab to your gun or attempt to swap however you wanted. You were jumping while trying to swap to your gun you made no attempt to preserve your life this is a form of bhopping. You made a reason for every time you jumped and none of them were attempts to preserve your life. If you tried to take cover behind your vacca you know spacebar would not allow that. After the fact you jumped off the vacca facing towards the road and turned to jump down a steep hill which would also not seem like something you'd do realistically as that fall was drastic and steep This will be my only response to you until a member of staff takes the report. 

[ArcAngel]

As i did say above, i pressed Q, it placed me on top of the car. I was right in the line of fire, a last attempt at taking out my gun failed. I've been experiencing the same lag all day today too, getting stuck in inventory and unable to access my scroll wheel.

[ArcAngel]

Attempt one


Attempt 2

Attempt 3



No weapon after 4+ attempts due to the lag


Animation seemed to stick, Gun appears.


Pressed Q to try to hide, forced ontop of the car with no weapon again.

Tried one final time to equip, using the aim and roll technique, no dice. Dead.

This is all visible in the POV.
I gained no advantage in this situation at all, none of the people present from PD gained an advantage in this situation. I didn't fire a single shot because i couldn't equip my weapon due to the scroll wheel lag.

 

Edited June 14, 2021 by arcangel

[Aldarine]

Thank you kindly for your patience as we reviewed this report. Following significant review of evidence and provided statements as well as extended conversation regarding the report, we will be concluding this report as follows:

Player Jessica_Nash will receive a verbal warning for the reported incident.

To appropriately address the rationale for the first warning, I would like to turn your attention to the video showing the reported players POV. At the start of this video it can be seen that the reported player along with her partner are approaching a scene while in a pursuit and at the approximate timestamp of 0:52, the player exits her vehicle. Numerous attempts at withdrawing a firearm can be seen and during this time the reported player can be seen moving behind her vehicle and around while under heavy gunfire.

It is noted that there appeared to be considerable trouble at withdrawing the firearm to retaliate, however, even with this the lack of regard for safety can also be seen. While under such heavy gunfire in a situation such as this, obtaining cover should be the first priority for self preservation. Regardless of bugs, moving back and forth in the specific area of heavy gunfire all in efforts to obtain a weapon is not something we consider to be appropriate. What should have taken place is cover should have been found then from there retaliation can be looked towards - especially considering that more than 3 firearm withdrawal attempts were made. In the future we advise looking towards realistic actions regardless of bugs and appropriately responding to a very clear and valid threat such as one noted in this report.

Best Regards,

Head Administrator @Dqniel & Administrator Aldarine