ID 282 & 201 DM

[BBakeYY]

Player(s) being reported: ID 282 & ID 201 Youssef Assad & Another Rook
Date of interaction reported: 08/06/2021
Unix time stamp from HUD: Honestly cannot tell due to the video quality, maybe the reported party can 

Your characters name: Javier_Antonio
Other player(s) involved: No One

Specific rule(s) broken:
14. Deathmatch (DM)

• Prior interaction should include escalation such as a robbery or a report to the police.
• Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit with a vehicle once with valid motive.

 

How did the player break the rule(s)? 
I had got into an altercation at the pier,  i had killed a man and taken his gun, i am running to the beach to escape any cops who were alerted due to the shots, I am then chased by 2 men in a comet retro, which is fine, i then go into the water as i am badly hurt and it is seemingly my only option of escape, and am then given demands to 'put your hands up' (which i cannot do in water) I am then told to 'COME BACK'  within 2 seconds of being told to come back i am shot down, neither player ever pointed their gun which doesnt put me under fear rp, i also believe i was shot without time to comply with demands

I wasnt recording at the time but ID 282 provided me his pov, he had to block the chat due to it containing staff chat but im sure he can send the handling admin the unedited POV)

Both players were informed to save pov and both said they have it

Evidence of rule breach: 
https://clipchamp.com/watch/xH1lt6PqaJH

[Kazjii]

As this involves a member of support staff, this will be pending Senior Admin review.

[titos]

Hello, Randy Berkowitz (201) Here. I would like to thank the staff who's taking and reviewing this report. My POV will be sent to the admin handling my report as it contains staff chat.

I would like to explain what happened in the beginning, so he fought and killed someone openly in an area that we control influentially bringing police and other problems to our front door so I attempted to talk with him. When we pulled up to talk he immediately ran into the water abusing it to get away. After searching for him on the coastline we eventually found him running away and tried to approach a second time. He, again, went straight into the water and began swimming. He simply thought his swimming and hiding in water would protect him, he did not anticipate me using the rock to get a shot. It can be seen in my POV, we gave him valid demands and enough time to respond. I took my time watching Javier for 5 seconds ignoring my demands and swimming away so I shot and Injured him.

I would like to mention that Javier was heavily injured with multiple GSWs from the fight he just had and instead of listening to demands he kept swimming to unknown destination which is NRP/PG to do while bleeding.

Thank you for taking the time to read my reply.

 

Edited June 9, 2021 by titos
correcting the story.

[Zoah]

ID 282 here. Randy explained the situation perfectly. 

I would like to point out that it is not necessary to aim your gun while giving demands over text chat. I will send my unedited POV to the staff member who takes this report so they can see the amount of time we gave him to comply. My gun was out the whole time.

 

If there are any further questions I will be happy to answer them!

 

Thank you. 

[BBakeYY]

After speaking with randy oocly I would like to drop this report as he has refunded my items,

Thanks to the staff for looking into this.

[MarcoD]

Hello, thank you for making this report.

After discussion with various members of senior staff and support staff management we have decided to accept this report and issue a DM punishment to the reported player. The reasoning for this is because we do not believe the RP build up to be enough of a reason to open fire. There was no real personal attack or issue created by the reporting player, he was fleeing but the build up of fighting and killing someone in an open, public area is not a strong enough reason to open fire. As for the demands when the player was fleeing, we do not believe these to be enough on their own to open fire on the player.

Report Closed.