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Player(s) being reported: ID 390
Date of interaction reported: 06/07/2021
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1623104471

Your characters name: Bob Karlsson
Other player(s) involved: 67, Irish

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper IC motive and interaction.
  • Prior interaction should include escalation such as a robbery or a report to the police.
  • Players may not kill victims who have complied with a plausible demand in reasonable time unless involved in severe hostile activity against them or an ally within 3 hours.
  • Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit with a vehicle once with valid motive.
  • Vehicles cannot be used as weapons in active shootouts unless where unavoidable.
  • Players must be able to explain their reason and provide proof of prior reasoning if requested.
  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand.

How did the player break the rule(s)? 

We had a shootout with Irish at the grapeseed hangar and i gave demands to the irish massacro, instead of driving off and getting out of the area, the driver decided to swerve for me and run me over before speeding off. 

Evidence of rule breach: 

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After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story:

  • Conor_Moore [390] @Aaron Martin - Can you explain the rationale of running over the player in this situation? Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. 

If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Kind Regards,
Harveyyy & Philoop

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Hello, I am Conor Moore. Before getting into this report I would like to state that Bob has edited the video down to his advantage and is not showing the entire situation, if possible I would like Bob to show the entire situation from the start of the shootout to the end as this will show that is was NOT an active shootout, no active shots are being fired on my arrival.

This is also made very evident from how surprised everyone is when shots start flying again on the reporting parties radio. The following lines are said: "there is a shootout again" "there's shooting again".

Bob Karlsson NEVER notified me to save POV so I do not have any footage from this situation as I had fled after running him over after he took a very extremely hostile action against me aiming a weapon and giving me demands.

Some backstory for the night is Irish had been chasing 6ix7even and 6ix7even had been chasing Irish for a good couple hours. I code 0ed up in Paleto Bay and on my return my passenger tells me that everyone just got smoked at Grapeseed Hangar, 5 minutes later I go to the Grapeseed Hangar and check if anyone of us is even alive, I saw Isaac Collins vehicle and had thought it was him, resulting in me stopping the vehicle and radioing for who is in the Cheetah Classic. At that point Bob attempted to give me demands, let me state that there had been ZERO shooting since I had arrived and I even witnessed people pick locking cars indicating that it was no longer a shootout. Something I guarantee extended POV from Bob will prove. 

Rules state "deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper IC motive and interaction." I believe that I had proper IC motive and interaction. The reporting party aimed a firearm at me (very hostile action) and gave me demands. Furthermore if I did not run over Bob then the possibility of me getting sprayed out the car from driving in a straight line would have been a lot higher then if I hadn't swerved the extra metre to flatten him, as he did have a micro SMG which is an amazing gun for shooting close range. As stated in the rules: "Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit with a vehicle once with valid motive", the player was only attempted to be hit once, I did not return to the Hangar after this situation and as stated above I had VALID MOTIVE to run the player over. 

What I do wish to request alongside the reporting party being asked for longer POV to prove this wasn't an active shootout at my time of arrival is a full investigation into Bob Karlsson attempting to deceive staff with edited down POV and his statements that he made alongside them. If the staff member taking this report is not comfortable doing that please let me know so I can open a separate report about this matter as I wish for it to be investigated thoroughly. This at the least is a petty report and the maximum is attempting to deceive staff.

One last time I will say this was not an ACTIVE shootout at my time of arrival and there were no active shots being fired on my arrival or anytime prior or during the reporting party aiming at me. I stumbled upon the end results of a shootout which was no longer active as the reporting party and his friends were pick locking cars on my arrival and getting them ready to chop before the events in the reporting parties POV transpire. 

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Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided to deny this report for the following reason(s):

  • Going through the provided evidence, the reporting player can be seen driving his bike to what looks like, a not an active shootout. He gets off his bike, pulls out his Micro SMG, and aims it at the reported player, giving him demands to get out of the car, from a fairly long distance. The reporting player then decides to shoot the reported player, but as soon as he started doing that, the reported player can be seen swerving his vehicle towards him and running him over, then fleeing the scene. 

    This was not an active shootout and we decided that the player had a valid motive and a reason to run over the reporting player since the player was aiming a Micro SMG at him, giving him hostile demands. Our rules state "Vehicles cannot be used as weapons in active shootouts unless where unavoidable." In this case, there was not an active shootout. Also, "Players on foot can be hit once with a vehicle with a valid motive" In this case, the reporting player was aiming his micro at the reported player, so the reported player had a valid motive to hit the player once to preserve his character's life. 

This decision is final. Unless instructed to, if you post another player report pertaining to this incident, you may be muted from posting on the forums for a temporary period. If you disagree with the outcome of this report, please file an appeal following the appeal guidelines and format.

Kind Regards,
Philoop & 

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