AllA2K Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Player(s) being reported: ID 6 , 23 , 313 Date of interaction reported: 22/05/2021 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1621702590 Your character name: William_Lau Other player(s) involved: Travis_Lau Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper IC motive and interaction. Prior interaction should include escalation such as a robbery or a report to the police. Players may not kill victims who have complied with a plausible demand in reasonable time unless involved in severe hostile activity against them or an ally within 3 hours. Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit with a vehicle once with valid motive. Vehicles cannot be used as weapons in active shootouts unless where unavoidable. Players must be able to explain their reason and provide proof of prior reasoning if requested. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand. How did the player break the rule(s)? (300 words maximum) Goblins had killed a few Irish members, leading us to chase them to the ATM on the beach in Vespucci where they were set up on top of the houses. then they started shooting at us. PD arrived and everyone left .(POV1) when we leaving the location a cop starts chasing us then he gave up and went back to the shootout scene , after that we tried to hide somewhere cause our car is wanted .(POV2) unfortunately a goblins sultan saw us passing Vespucci PD they started chasing us after 18 sec they started shooting... (POV3) Evidence of rule breach: POV1 : https://youtu.be/cCQ9zBbrerA POV2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-sQLdpTuLE POV3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9mu6LaFFB8 3 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrax Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Pending review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrax Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: Notified in-game - Ryan_Petford (6) - Could you please explain why did you decide to open fire on the reporting party? Did you think that proper demands were delivered or proper interaction took place before you opened fire? Notified in-game - Gabriella_Shinigami (23) - Could you please explain why did you decide to open fire on the reporting party? Did you think that proper demands were delivered or proper interaction took place before you opened fire? Notified in-game - Erik_Nomar (313) - Could you please explain why did you decide to open fire on the reporting party? Did you think that proper demands were delivered or proper interaction took place before you opened fire? If the requested player(s) do not respond within 24 hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Moderator thrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriella Shinigami Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) The reason why I opened fire on them is because previous demands were gave at the scene of the shootout with them, multiple times. As you can see in the picture/video below, they had been given valid demands and they started to shoot at us anyways, so we began to shoot back. -https://imgur.com/a/jRb0NKp -https://streamable.com/im43md Afterwards, cops did arrive on scene so everyone left. As we were leaving this one Irish car smacked into us that was previously at the shootout, had his tire popped on Vespucci as you can see in the videos below. We began to follow them, and began shooting from the car since valid demands had been given previously. They then began to shoot back at us as well. -https://streamable.com/t0imrg -https://streamable.com/c94uqy (Sorry in advance for some of the clips not having sound) Edited May 24, 2021 by Gabriella Shinigami 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllA2K Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) hello again can you turn on the audio in this clips ? https://streamable.com/t0imrg https://streamable.com/c94uqy it seems like you were using a 3rd party software , because at 0:25(https://streamable.com/t0imrg) all of you decided to shoot at the same time when no one of you was talking in game just go to the settings and click "revert to original" : https://imgur.com/1VDm3P2 we can see from this POV and this Screenshot that you are able to provide your pov's with audio . Edited May 24, 2021 by AllA2K more infos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriella Shinigami Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Thank you for that! https://streamable.com/vmgrwo https://streamable.com/02l2en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan12193 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Quote Notified in-game - Ryan_Petford (6) - Could you please explain why did you decide to open fire on the reporting party? Did you think that proper demands were delivered or proper interaction took place before you opened fire? Firstly, i thank the admins handling this report. Unfortunately my POV is a bit short for why the entire situation started however it can be explained. It began with an Irish car following Goblins... we decided to target a single vehicle which was the Bifta and it can be seen in the clip provided. With this being said, multiple other Irish were around and saw their allies getting killed, hereby giving them DM rights later ending in a shootout. We finished and left the scene. Many Goblins split up with some of us still being followed by Irish as they were singled out... We decided to setup at ATM 4 down in Vespucci as its a strong ambush spot. At this point another shootout occurred between Irish and Goblins causing a couple of deaths from both parties with cops eventually showing. All can be seen in the second clip provided. Both parties decided to leave the area as cops showed up. As we were leaving, we saw an Irish vehicle that had just been involved at the shootout leaving the area giving us a reason to follow them and finish what had started back at ATM 4, we followed the vehicle whilst I made calls on the radio asking whether I can shoot them or not as well as their location. This ended up with them being killed and i believe PD turned up not long after. Personally, i believe no rules were broken as multiple shootouts had already occurred recently with valid demands being given. https://youtu.be/9KsuonhqtME - POV 1 - Start https://youtu.be/Kl7AXULZUpE - POV 2 -Rest And Incident Added Note: A Schlagen GT can be seen off-roading at 0:09 in the first POV with nothing blocking or causing danger to him which i believe is unrealistic and promotes poor roleplay. Thank you for taking the time to handle this report. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrax Posted May 31, 2021 Report Share Posted May 31, 2021 REPORT DENIED ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After our deliberations, we’ve concluded that this report will be denied for the following reason(s): To begin, thank you to both reporting and reported parties for their patience during the review of this report. After discussing this report with multiple staff members, we have come to this conclusion to deny this report for following reasons. The main thing to discuss here is the interaction that you have had with the reporting party. As you have mentioned above, gang members were killed on both side before there was a setup at ATM 4. You in the elegy were seen on the location of the shootout where you were totally aware of the consequences, present at the location to fight back. The cops showed up before you decided to dismount or shoot at anybody, therefore, you were forced to leave the location. However, you were seen at the location of the shootout as a hostile where demands were issued, but they weren't met, therefore, a shootout emerged. Secondly, leaving the place doesn't make the deathmatch rights on you invalid, since it hadn't been long enough to issue fresh demands to continue. As you were being chased after an altercation, therefore, that doesn't go against our deathmatching rule. However, Killing/Shooting on sight is something that isn't recommended. At some point, killing on sight can go against our deathmatching rule, however, considering the interaction and situation, it doesn't go against the rule. This decision is final. Unless instructed to, if you post another player report pertaining to this incident, you may be muted from posting on the forums for a temporary period. If you disagree with the outcome of this report, please file an appeal following the appeal guidelines and format. Regards, Moderator thrax 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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