TheLordReaper Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Player(s) being reported: Johnny Daho (ID #68) Date of interaction reported: 05/19/2021 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1621462392 Your character name: Viktor Walker Other player(s) involved: Charlie Wilkinson, Christopher Porter, Garret Groyce, Stephany Reeder, Bobby Kirk Specific rule(s) broken: 9. Non-Roleplay (NRP) Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. Examples: Ignoring RP 8. Metagaming (MG) Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. 10. Powergaming (PG) Powergaming is playing unfairly through not allowing other players a chance to roleplay responses and their own actions, unrealistic actions, or non-factual statements in /do. Forceful commands should be used after RP or the party is unresponsive for 30 seconds. How did the player break the rule(s)? (300 words maximum) I've already had prior experiences with Daho and his NRP and refusal to follow RP, as well as some mixing, this time being no different. This time, I arrive on scene, he's fleeing even though he's surrounded by 3 deputies, one of which has already RP'd jumping on him and attempting to hold him down (ignoring RP), has already ignored being tazed 4 times (can be heard in the video/audio evidence attached, also NRP). Sees people typing and refuses for them to finish typing before he starts running away (also about 4 seconds into video evidence). Refuses to RP, forcing others to just wait 30 seconds each time then force RP on him so we can move on. Second clip will include Mixing; I RP reaching into his pockets for his ID and then PM him to /showlicense after he responds with RP. He then proceeds to say, "Amazing what I can do handcuffed. Managed to pull my license up and show it." After he runs and is injured due to the 6th maybe 7th time being tazed, he still refuses to answer any RP at all for myself or the medic involved. Wait 30 seconds and force RP during the whole interaction. While being transported to Sandy MD he jumps out of the ambulance, TWICE, and kills himself (NRP) It's not the first time we've had to deal with him and this constant NRP and abuse of the rules is just annoying and unacceptable. Being forced to RP with someone like this is really demotivating and kills the fun of any scenario or any possible RP. Evidence of rule breach: https://youtu.be/fuajgiOqJxY - First video showing all evidence (except mixing) condensed into one https://youtu.be/xRL5i-nJzjo - Second video showing mixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiorgosK Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Pending review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiorgosK Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: Johnny_Daho(68) - Please explain your side of the story. Provide any evidence you may have. If the requested player(s) do not respond within 24 hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, GiorgosK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnydaHo Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) First I will address some technical aspects for me. I have been operating under the belief that this was primarily a voice chat game but those who can not voice chat can type their actions. It appears tho, based on this encounter, that players do both during the same encounter. So I have learned that I need to keep an eye on the text hud even when I am dealing with someone who talks as well and this will improve my response speed. I am sorry for the slow responses at times but it is not intertional nrp. Also , I have no idea yet how to record "evidence" yet. As for the two incidents the player mentions, each of these arose out of scuffy stuff. The first one arose out of a glitch that happens if as a money truck driver you grab a money bag out of your truck and someone steal your truck before you can get back to lock it, the bag becomes stuck in your hand. You can't just drop it or quit the job and you cant even access your phone to report the truck stolen. The server also issued a false "you are injured" warning and I had rp that out before noticing that it just disappeared (maybe an admin action as I had filed a /report 2. As for the second incident I don't know if this is something others experience but when I am in areas with lots of other players my screen freezes and it gets super choppy. Vehicles are jumping all over. this was the situation at the toll booth where there was a huge pile up of buses and cars. when we all finally managed to get in line I get to the booth the gate rises, I push to go and all of a sudden a car appears stopped before me while I go through the gate and the screen freezes and gets choppy. Next thing is I am on the highway and 30 seconds later getting stopped. I do not think my rp of a determined escape amounts to power gaming. As his own evidence clearly shows I was ultimately subdued by the taser, which was on the 4th taze. In my view this is no more power gaming than it is to use a taser right away on an unarmed person because you are too lazy to run after him and attempt to take him down. As for the ambulance ride it was one moment I am in the ambulance looking around. As soon as we are moving it goes completely choppy and the next thing I know I am standing in front of the hospital with all my possession gone and thinking those dirty cops rolled me and that was why I was not in jail. It was only now that I realized that you lose everything when you die...as this was my first death. I never saw the part where I fell out of the ambulance at all until this video. This was only the second time I had been in an ambulance and I had no clue you could fall or jump out while moving. however I guess since I fell through the floor of a bus and got run over yesterday I will have to consider things like that. Being non-compliant and taking every opportunity to escape is in my view legitimate rp. irl there are lots of criminals that it takes more than one cop to bring down. Instead of complaining that a player isnt just submitting how about maybe thinking you might just need more than one cop to rp out the takedown. The system is already has the situation where police act as investigator, prosecutor, judge, and jailer. Making the police have to work for their arrests hopefully is not viewed as nrp. as for my comment about showing my license while handcuffed I should have handled that differently. I was frustrated that this was just another example of brute forcing me with an unrealistic demand like they did before. it was a way of conveying to the player the fact that it was an unrealistic demand while my hands were cuffed. In retrospect, I could have handled it better and just refused and insisted that they remove the cuffs first. In the first incident I felt like the player was brute forcing the glitch situation towards an arrest while making demands that were impossible for me to comply with and complaining about non compliance. In the second incident I don't know what the other player was experiencing as far as lag in that situation but I tried my best to rp the situation without breaking character and talking about lag. This player is trying to make it sound like I have regular interactions with the police however the truth is that I have only had the two noted above and one other where I was pulled over for driving in the wrong lane on a dirt road. After 10 minutes of sitting the officer left the server and never returned. So I have learned some technical stuff that will speed up my rp in the future as it is not meant as nrp. I recognize where I could have done better without mixing a little bit. Edit: After searching around I finally found the basis for my belief that this was primarily a chat server and that text was a second option. Here is of the rage website page: We in our GTA V RP server community embrace voice chat as a primary way of communicating with other players. Our voice integration doesn't require any additional software so that usage of it is smooth and easy. Text chat is still available as an second option if you are unable to use voice chat, but be aware, you will be in a disadvantage and you will be losing out on an amazing experience! Edited May 21, 2021 by JohnnydaHo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: [@TheLordReaper] - Viktor_Walker (83) - Please explain why it appears that there is a big part of footage cut out of the provided evidence (starting from 2:27 in the first video). If the requested player(s) do not respond within 24 hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, GiorgosK & Yputi Edited May 21, 2021 by Yputi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordReaper Posted May 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) Sorry I wasn't aware I couldn't edit it. It's just a LOOOOONG video. I can cut the whole scenario and upload it though no worries. Edit: Finishing clipping the full scenario and will begin uploading shotly. https://youtu.be/cCPP2uuQ44Y Edited May 22, 2021 by TheLordReaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiorgosK Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 REPORT ACCEPTED ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, we've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following player(s): Johnny_Daho (68) - Non-RP | In the provided evidence it was seen that RP was completely ignored and the effects of a taser were completely ignored. Later in the evidence, it was visible that game mechanics were abused to force injury/death on yourself after being transported in an ambulance. Johnny_Daho (68) - Verbal warning for mixing | In the provided evidence it was heard that an OOC action was taken IC. /license was used to show the player the license that was taken through Roleplay after you were cuffed. This should not be taken IC by saying things like "amazing what I can do handcuffed. Managed to pull my license up and show it", as this would imply that something that was done OOC was taken IC. If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. Regards, GiorgosK & Yputi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
