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ID 262 (14.3 Deathmatching)

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Player(s) being reported: ID 262
Date of interaction reported: August 3rd, 2020
Unix time stamp from HUD: 159648913

Your characters name: Jae Fang

Other player(s) involved: ID 366, ID 131, ID 346

Specific rule(s) broken:
 

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper IC motive and interaction.

  • Prior interaction should include escalation such as a robbery or a report to the police.

  • Players may not kill victims who have complied with a plausible demand in reasonable time unless involved in severe hostile activity against them or an ally within 3 hours.

  • Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit with a vehicle once with valid motive.

  • Vehicles cannot be used as weapons in active shootouts unless where unavoidable.

  • Players must be able to explain their reason and provide proof of prior reasoning if requested.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand.



How did the player break the rule(s)?

ID 346 and 366 rolled into the Chiliad Lab and decided to talk shit to me. I was only with another one of my members, so we exited the drug lab but followed the two vehicles up the side of the mountain while we waited for backup to arrive. Once backup arrived and we had the numbers to fight, we decided to follow the four players up the mountain. Upon reaching near the top of the mountain, the four players were out of their cars and I was ultimately under Fear Roleplay. I decided to exit my vehicle and put my hands up when ID 366 and 131 said to do so. ID 262 who doesn't see any of the initial robbery (at least in my POV), decides to come over the ridge of the mountain and kill me for no valid reason. I was complying to demands and posed no immediate threat to the individuals.

When informing the individual to save his POV for the purpose of this report, he simply responded with "cry". The lack of understanding for the rules and the potential roleplay that could have followed in this situation leads me to reporting the individual. Had he not instantly injured me, my backup was right around the corner and would have been able to initiate a shootout in which I could have ran for cover.

Evidence of rule breach:

https://streamable.com/tlqs3y

(The deathmatch happens at around 4:36, but the whole 5 minutes is the entire interaction we had with them.)

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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Tab_Yez [ID #262]] - [ @JustTabed ]
    • Why did you shoot the reporting party while he was complying with demands?
    • Please upload any and all UNEDITED video footage you may have of these events and the moments leading up to them.

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
MrWonanother.

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In the video you can see us getting out of our cars and giving you demands, ''If you follow you die''. You decided to deny our demands and kept on following, even in the radio you can hear your people saying ''They gave us demands'' .When you got out of your car I shot you and didn't see if you were complying with our demands or no. My shadowplay is broken and is not saving anything.

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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Jae_Fang [ID #153]] - [ @Jae ]
    • Why did you continue to follow at such close proximity even after being given demands at 2:29 in the video you provided?

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
MrWonanother.

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Starting from 1:24 to approximately 2:14 in the video, I followed the two cars from a safe distance due to the hostile nature of the interaction at Chiliad. Knowing that they had four people and we only had two at the time, I was not going to place my character in a situation that could result in him easily dying.

 

In regards to the demands, the two players come running towards our vehicles showing no immediate threat (no weapons in hand and no weapons wielded nor spotted in the previous interaction). I begin to back away once the two people get too close to my vehicle. It's pretty ironic that they tell us "you follow you die" while running towards us and even coming closer to me after I drive further down the mountain.

 

As for continuing to chase the individuals, the individual on the drag followed from a safe distance up the Chiliad trail. He was far enough away to lose sight a couple of times. At 2:55, another one of my gang members arrives with someone in his passenger seat. We now have four people to their four people, one person 3 minutes out, and two more people headed toward Chiliad. We would have 4 or 5 people to hold our own, and two more people to back us up if needed (total of 7 people to their 4). We continue to follow the two vehicles up the mountain from a safe distance. At 4:25, my two allies slide to the right of the cliff so I take the lead on the chase. A couple of seconds later (4:30), I see one person to the right and once I go around the bend, there are two waiting for me (4:35). I comply with ID 366 and 131's demands, when ID 262 who was shooting at my allies comes over the ridge and injures me.

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11 minutes ago, Jae said:

In regards to the demands, the two players come running towards our vehicles showing no immediate threat (no weapons in hand and no weapons wielded nor spotted in the previous interaction). I begin to back away once the two people get too close to my vehicle. It's pretty ironic that they tell us "you follow you die" while running towards us and even coming closer to me after I drive further down the mountain.

 

We did have guns in our hands and even on your own radio you can hear people saying I am scared that they will be waiting for us on top.

 

 

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1 hour ago, JustTabed said:

We did have guns in our hands and even on your own radio you can hear people saying I am scared that they will be waiting for us on top.

 

 

Nowhere in between 2:30 from when you got out of your cars to 2:40 when I left did you have guns in your hands.

 

I'd also like to add that at 2:23 I began typing "/s aight" but figured I would not realistically hear your demands from that distance with my engine running. I then shouted (which you might not have RPly heard either) "Yall are sad". This was in no way an acknowledgement of the demands.

 

It could be totally possible that my other gang member on the drag heard your demands, as he was closer and was on a motorcycle, but that doesn't apply to me. At the end of the day, it's up to the moderator handling this report to decide whether your demands were valid or not.

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Hello, I was also involved in this situation. I can currently not gain access to my footage but will upload my POV by tomorrow. Footage will show us running towards them and giving them clear demands. 🙂 

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PLAYER REPORT DENIED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I have decided to deny this report for the following reason(s):

  • Overall this seems more like Rule-play than Role-play.
  • Jae_Fang:
    • Your actions were mindful that there was going to be a fight which is the only reason you pursued them. It is clear your intention was to fight, if you wanted nothing to do with the them you would of have left the scene when you had chance. Instead you decided to wait for backup and follow them.
    • You state you would not hear there demands with your engine running but would gather a group of people to outnumber and chase them.
    • Its clear from the very beginning you wanted a shootout, and in the end you got one that didn't end in your favour.

This decision is final. Unless instructed to, if you post another player report pertaining to this incident, you may be muted from posting on the forums for a temporary period. If you disagree with the outcome of this report, please file an appeal following the appeal guidelines and format.

Regards,
MrWonanother. & @Aldarine

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