colt12 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Player(s) being reported: 132 Date of interaction reported: Monday March 2 2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1583184490 Your characters name: Colt Steap Other player(s) involved: Carl Blackwood, Larry blackwood, Carp Kush Specific rule(s) broken: Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life How did the player break the rule(s)? id 132 was chasing us we started firing guns out the car he had no passenger to fire back and just kept following close not fearing for his life and promoting poor roleplay then proceeded to try to smash into us Evidence of rule breach: https://youtu.be/OKxb1XEe19U 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Hello @colt12 and thank you for making the report. Player ID 132 - John_Kemp - please explain why you kept following the vehicle that was actively shooting at you. Additionally, please provide any POV that you might have. The aforementioned player has 24 hours to respond to their respective inquiry, or the report may be concluded without it. Sincerely, alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigo92 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Unfortunately, I don’t have my own POV. However as you can clearly see in the reporter’s video, I hit the brakes after leaving the tunnel to increase my distance from the vehicle and keep visual at the same time, also I swerved to my right after realizing that the shots were coming from the passenger’s side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt12 Posted March 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 You did not slow down our speed jumped from 190 to 220 and you where still full speed ahead and even swerving to the right shots where still hitting you then you went and crashed into that random car driving down the street no rp for the crash for that random person you just started your car back up and came straight to beach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigo92 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 I crashed into the entrance of the parking lot and while I was trying to enter it so my speed wasn’t high enough since I hit the brakes to make the turn. Also, cruisers go 220 easily and that was my speed while I was behind you since you were on the highway so I could easily catch up to you. You also say that there is no RP for the crash, you forgot that you went swimming even though there was a boat right next to you which was unlocked, you could have easily evaded in that boat, however all 4 of you went swimming, why is that? Where is the RP in that? Also, how could the shots hit me when I was on the driver’s side when the shots were only coming from the passengers side? I kept my distance and if shots hit me I would’ve most likely stalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp97 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Trigo92 said: I crashed into the entrance of the parking lot and while I was trying to enter it so my speed wasn’t high enough since I hit the brakes to make the turn. Also, cruisers go 220 easily and that was my speed while I was behind you since you were on the highway so I could easily catch up to you. You also say that there is no RP for the crash, you forgot that you went swimming even though there was a boat right next to you which was unlocked, you could have easily evaded in that boat, however all 4 of you went swimming, why is that? Where is the RP in that? Also, how could the shots hit me when I was on the driver’s side when the shots were only coming from the passengers side? I kept my distance and if shots hit me I would’ve most likely stalled. Carp kush here, reasons why we didn’t take the boat as I was the one in charge of trying to see if it was working if there was one on shore. However, as we stop I got out to early and fell. Being under extreme pressure I panicked, and said screw it and never gave a response. Prompting last resort for us in that situation, swim to the big yatcht. I realistically think there shouldn’t of been a random pd boat there. Also first real big rp chase I’ve been in, I thought it was weird there was a random boat there invthe first place and figure it was probably locked. Also I know I was the one shooting in the video however I had a visual bug where it didn’t show, so once on the beach, and then already seconds late after falling out of the car, and seeing all the cops on the beach, I figured if I hoped on the boat I would be gunned down since shots were fired. Plus, I thought someone else fired and hit someone on the chase. Edit: *in charge of anything close by once we left our vehicle. Edited March 4, 2020 by Carp97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt12 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Swimming in a police chase it happends every day have you ever watched the news that is rp swim to the yacht to get away and why do you think it's okay to not rp the crash your reason for not rping the crash is "we went swimming what kind or rp is that" so because you somehow predicted the future of what we where going to do you decided not to rp your crash strange? how are we suposto know the boat was unlocked we could have had time to check if you would have rped crashing but you didnt you started your car right back up and where on Our asses first on scene but how you crashed? Then we hit the beach and even though we where fireing guns at you still showed up on our asses and just because the shooters where on the passager side dont mean they cant shoot you if you watch in my vid Larry is reaching his right hand over the back seat shooting out the middle of the back window witch is not the passager side he was hitting you while your still driving and as for your speed in your cruser it's common sence if you hit your breaks like you claim how are you still close to us we are going 190 then jump to 220 exactly when you say you hit your breaks but if you where going 190 and hit your breaks you would be around 160 against our 220 we wouldn't have been near you when you crashed Edited March 4, 2020 by colt12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigo92 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Makes perfect sense to shoot through the middle of the back seats when you have 2 passengers in the back and I was on the left passenger's side, ok. Anyways, I've said all I have and I will wait for staff's decision and accept it whatever it was. I will not comment further as I won't go back and forth with what you are saying since it is Non RP to go swimming after a chase. Edited March 4, 2020 by Trigo92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt12 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Trigo92 said: Makes perfect sense to shoot through the middle of the back seats when you have 2 passengers in the back and I was on the left passenger's side, ok. Like I said Larry is in the back seat shooting out the back window I dont know where your getting hes shooting through 2 people 22 minutes ago, Trigo92 said: I won't go back and forth with what you are saying since it is Non RP to go swimming after a chase. I will quote the rules here cause you just stated you dont know them • Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase. clearly we had a destination and that has nothing do do with this report it's about you following to close while being shot at not fearing for your life and not rping your crash Edited March 4, 2020 by colt12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp97 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Trigo92 said: Makes perfect sense to shoot through the middle of the back seats when you have 2 passengers in the back and I was on the left passenger's side, ok. Anyways, I've said all I have and I will wait for staff's decision and accept it whatever it was. I will not comment further as I won't go back and forth with what you are saying since it is Non RP to go swimming after a chase. I’m not sitting here arguing whether you deserve this or not it just seems that you are highlighting my actions and I’m just justifying them. Stated earlier, I had a visual bug in the passenger seat where It didn’t even show I had my gun out or shooting. But I wasn’t the only one, person in the backseat was shooting as well. Note: no I don’t have a video, I received a punishment for this whole RP encounter, which in my appeal I go into detail about me being new to the RP world. Just didn’t think their would be a huge need to record things, after situations like this I now see how important it is, and I realistically should be recording 24/7 cause this whole RP was busted from the start with us getting pulled over ( my opinion). Nor is my brain processing “hey pull out your cell phone in real life and start recording this. “ Usually my emotions are heightened and I’m totally focused on the game or my game plan. edit: I’m not trying to provoke a response by my comment just providing my view of things. However let’s just hypothetically say everything I said about the visual bug is a lie, since I don’t have proof in my POV, it could be interpreted as that. Being in a suv of that size, there is 3 seats in the back. (And 3 people can sit in the back). There’s easily enough room in a real scenario for someone to pivot there body and aim a pistol and shoot at a cop behind them, directing the criminals in the back to move and stay low. no comment really on the swimming part, this isn’t even focusing on that and we already received punishments for it and are appealing them. If you wanna express your opinion about that part of the RP then go ahead there, it was after this anyways. Edited March 4, 2020 by Carp97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 After careful deliberation, I have decided upon the following: No punishments will be issued as a result of this interaction. It is very important to consider your character's life, as if it was your only life, and fear for it appropriately. However, the 3 to 5 seconds of active shooting are not enough time to convince me that the officer was acting maliciously against that, or completely disregarding his life. Some distance is gained as the Novak speeds away, which the reporter claims that it's because they sped up, and the reported claims it's because he slowed down. All in all, the evidence is lacking to act as definitive proof for either side. Had this happened over a period of minutes, with the cruiser staying firmly behind you, the report would've ended differently. Sincerely, alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...