Vicky Timlin NON RP / FEAR RP - ID 220

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Player(s) being reported: ID 220
Date of interaction reported: 3/2/2020
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1583175122

Your characters name: Kyle Stryker

Other player(s) involved: One Vory member and some WCA's members.

Specific rule(s) broken:

 

8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.

• Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay:

• Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason.

• Mercy Killing - Asking to be killed by a friend (Killing a friend falls under deathmatching).

• Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles.

• Spawning a scripted work vehicle and using it for crimes or submerging any vehicle in water.

• Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase.

• Players who disconnect during roleplay must reconnect and inform other parties in order to resume roleplay. If you are unable to reconnect it may be excused after providing proof.

• In a situation where a player gets away from an incident where they're being chased/pursued, they must wait 15 minutes before they can logout. Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through. 

• Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do.

• In a situation where a player’s game crashes or the player is kicked from the server, they should be allowed to have the same advantages as they have had before their leave.

• Players should not deprive other players of roleplay, e.g. early on the interaction asking them not to speak unless it makes sense in the roleplay situation.

 

 

13. Fear Roleplay (FRP)

• Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life.

• Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range.

• When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range.

• When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger.

• Driving a vehicle into an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover.

• Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are in a car which engine is not stalled.

• When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked.

• When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you.

• As a victim, whose life is in direct danger:

• You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker.

• You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

We were getting chased and got demanded by some WCA members, during the pursuit I was heading on a highway from paleto when I see ID 220 trying to block and then reverses to ram and stall me with a sports car in this case ELEGY. She didn't value her life as well by putting herself in great danger while smashing into her while im going 250 km/h since she expected getting hit by an  expensive car

Evidence of rule breach:

https://streamable.com/9kf71

[Fa1N]

Pending Review.

[Fa1N]

PENDING RESPONSE

This player report is pending the following players for a response:

• Vicky_Timlin [220] @Pjuski

Players will have 24 hours to respond with their side of the story. As she is support member, the report will be handled by Senior Administrator +.

Regards,
fa1N.

[Pjuski]

My intentions was never to ram you at any point and it wasn't even possible for me to ram you as i was going very slowly and you were the one driving towards me. I wanted to block the part of the bridge just like the PD does during chases. The point is not me to ram you or you to ram me, but to make you go left or right and possibly crash as a distraction, thats why when you went straigt and clearly saw me i reversed to avoid you and also left the whole lane behind me open for you to drive into. PD do this at very high speed even on the same bridge many times.When i saw you were going straight i reversed to get out of your way so i did fear for my life but thats when you decided to turn left and straight into me. Looking at your video it looked like you wanted to ram me.

Also I would like to ask @FaiN to look into your radio conversation where they are talking about rules IC in your video and also check your logs that you were stalling not responding to rp and went straight to /b and didn't put roleplay first and was also told to answer /do as you ignored it.

Edited March 3, 2020 by Pjuski

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On 3/3/2020 at 1:19 PM, Pjuski said:

My intentions was never to ram you at any point and it wasn't even possible for me to ram you as i was going very slowly and you were the one driving towards me. I wanted to block the part of the bridge just like the PD does during chases. The point is not me to ram you or you to ram me, but to make you go left or right and possibly crash as a distraction, thats why when you went straigt and clearly saw me i reversed to avoid you and also left the whole lane behind me open for you to drive into. PD do this at very high speed even on the same bridge many times.When i saw you were going straight i reversed to get out of your way so i did fear for my life but thats when you decided to turn left and straight into me. Looking at your video it looked like you wanted to ram me.

Also I would like to ask @FaiN to look into your radio conversation where they are talking about rules IC in your video and also check your logs that you were stalling not responding to rp and went straight to /b and didn't put roleplay first and was also told to answer /do as you ignored it.

First of all, yes you tried to block me with an expensive car which is still not allowed and you can clearly see i swerved into the other lane to avoid your attempt of blocking. You instantly reversed back smashing into me. Regarding the radio deal it with the other people or create a report. Oh I responded to /do, stop lieing I have full proof of it. The main reason I went straight to /b is because we were in chase for about 20 minutes then had to end because of you pulling a stunt like that, this all could have been avoided admitting your mistake and let me continue my fun and maybe a different roleplay experience outcome but instead you decided to break a rule and taking advantage of it. I will not comment any furthermore unless @Fa1N asks me to.

Edited March 9, 2020 by PhenomenalX

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Any update on this @Fa1N please?

Edited March 9, 2020 by PhenomenalX

[Dqniel]

Hello, and thank you for submitting this player report! @PhenomenalX

I would like to take this opportunity to thank both parties involved for remaining patient while this report has been carefully reviewed. With that being said, after extensively reviewing this player report as well as taking the statements of both parties into account, i have decided to conclude this report.

Player Vicky_Timlin will receive a non-roleplay punishment.

Player Ross_Capone will receive a verbal warning.

First and foremost, i would like to address the non-roleplay punishment of Vicky_Timlin and the reasoning behind it. There is a clear lack of caution in your approach to this situation and this becomes evident by the provided evidence of this player report. Fear Roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your characters safety and life and i do not believe this was fully taken into account during your encounter with the reporting party. The reporting party is traveling at extremely large speeds and spots your vehicle in a stationary position in front of him, he then swerves the vehicle out of said direction to avoid colliding with your stationary vehicle and in turn you decide to reverse into his direction which ultimately caused a collision between the two of you. This shows an apparent lack of value for the life of your character and realistically speaking both players would have been severely injured if not dead upon impact.

I fail to understand how your intentions during this situation was to never get hit when you go through great lengths at making it seem this way. You are quite literally moving infront of a moving vehicle and giving the reporting party mere seconds to react, and had your intentions not been to get hit you would have remained stationary the entire time. I do not consider this to be a situation where the reporting party is in the wrong, it becomes evident that the reporting party tried to avoid your vehicle but was ultimately given mere seconds to react as you reverse your vehicle and cut in front of him. In addition to this, i do not think the comparison you made between your roadblock in this situation and the roadblocks conducted by members of the LSPD faction to be a plausible one. I have spoken with faction representatives of the LSPD faction to determine what the procedural guidelines are when conducting a roadblock, and they are far from what is depicted in the provided evidence of this player report. Under normal circumstances they will block one side using their vehicle, and utilize spike strips on the other side and at no point will they move in-front of vehicles traveling at high speeds.

I fully acknowledge your intentions and reasoning of wanting to stop the reporting party, however your method of attempting to do so was completely wrong. I have said this before in similar incidents and i will say it again, consciously going out of your way to place yourself in between moving vehicles traveling at high speeds with the intention of stopping them is not showing a proper level of value and care for the life of your character, as you are expected to per the server rules. Looking at other acceptable alternatives to this could have been creating a roadblock without using yourself within the roadblock. You are more than welcome to try and stop other players, however do not place yourself in front of a vehicle going nearly 250 km/h in the process.

Secondly, i would like to address the verbal warning of Ross_Capone and the reasoning behind it. Looking at the provided evidence of this player report it can be seen that you utilize the radio to relay what is seemingly out of character information pertaining to the rules to imply that an action conducted in-game was not acceptable, in other words mixing in-character and out-of-character. Eclipse Roleplay is a server in which the staff team enforces all players to remain in-character at all times.  There are implemented commands into the server such as /ooc which allow for out-of-character means of communication and the ability of bringing concerns and or issues up. Considering that this violation is so minor i will not be issuing any punishments, however moving forward i urge you to distinguish the appropriate areas of where in-character information and where out-of-character information should be used, as to ensure that this does not repeat itself in the future. 

Thank you for remaining patient and submitting this player report! @PhenomenalX 
This player report is accepted and archived. 

With regards,
Dqniel & Kris.