Marvin2341 Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Player(s) being reported: ID's 248,287 and 125 Date of interaction reported: 29.02.2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1583010805 Your characters name: Zeiwa_Gueye Other player(s) involved: N/A Specific rule(s) broken: 9. Metagaming (MG) Metagaming is the act of relaying IC information through any method not considered IC that has the potential to change current or future roleplay scenarios or using that information. Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. For example, a player uses IC chat to call someone by their player ID displayed above their head. 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger: • When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. • When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range. • When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger. • Driving a vehicle into an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. • When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked. • When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you. As a victim, whose life is in direct danger: • You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker. • You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you. 8. Non-Roleplay (NRP) Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay: • Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason. • Mercy Killing - Asking to be killed by a friend (Killing a friend falls under deathmatching). • Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles. • Spawning a scripted work vehicle and using it for crimes or submerging any vehicle in water. • Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase. Players who disconnect during roleplay must reconnect and inform other parties in order to resume roleplay. If you are unable to reconnect it may be excused after providing proof. In a situation where a player gets away from an incident where they're being chased/pursued, they must wait 15 minutes before they can logout. Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through. Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do. In a situation where a player’s game crashes or the player is kicked from the server, they should be allowed to have the same advantages as they have had before their leave. Players should not deprive other players of roleplay, e.g. early on the interaction asking them not to speak unless it makes sense in the roleplay situation. How did the player break the rule(s)? I got into the car with ID 248 and proceeded to aim a gun at his head telling him through voicechat to go down to the the alleyway where no one would possibly see us and he just disregarded my demands and tried to buy himself more time, probaly telling his friends 287 and 125 per discord that he was being robbed.Something to note here is that he had no clue as where I wanted him to go down and clearly didn't know the place.A screenshot that I took of the ooc conversation we had would contradict this though, because now apparently they we're going to "meet here" and "he radioed in", which he didn't btw and if he did he would've broken FearRP, which you clearly see in the evidence.The last thing I'd like to add is him jumping away as I still have him at gunpoint again breaking fearRP. Evidence of rule breach: Contradicting SS:https://imgur.com/a/MpFCr2p Whole clip leading up to the incident aka them Metagaming:https://streamable.com/zxymb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4k3n705h Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 First of all, let's begin with your breaking powergaming rule. You just RP'ed /me "puts a gun in the head" and I don't see any /do's? You are not giving me any chance to RP back, and you forced me to comply. Now about the metagaming stuff, I was speaking in radio with my buddies earlier, we were supposed to meet at parking lot after a shoot out, and they knew that i was somewhere around there, so once I got down, they saw me, and came there(you can even hear the car circling around in the video). There was no metagaming, we all had radio's and we are only using radio's. There is a little bit of fear RP, but I stood up instantly, when I saw my friends coming, I knew that you are outnumbered, outgunned and etc. If any of you believe that rules were broken, I will gladly take the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathhias Dyan Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Had to create a new account(cause it won't let me log in) just because of your whiny ass, we didn't even metagame a bit, we wanted to store our stuff at the parking lot after a shoot out near paleto bay and we were the first ones to come after him, that's it. You didn't even use any /do commands, how was he supposed to roleplay with u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooks365 Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Thank you for making this report @Marvin2341 This will now be reviewed by @Jasmine and myself Your patience while it is being reviewed is appreciated Edited March 1, 2020 by krooks365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooks365 Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Thank you for your patience while this report is being reviewed. We would ask that anyone with any further evidence please supply it within the next 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooks365 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Thank you for your responses and patience as we are reviewing the report. Prior to concluding this report, we would like to hear statements from the players as specified below Jamal_Scupe | ID 248- @m4k3n705h Please provide your POV from this encounter. Especially if you have any evidence of you and ID 287 & 125 utilizing in game radio or VOIP or if you have evidence of you and ID 287 & 125 agreeing to meet at that location. Why did you pull your gun while under Fear RP at the end of the provided evidence? How did ID 287 & 125 know exactly where to go? Mathhais_Dyan | ID 287- @Mathhias Dyan How did you know where to go? Please provide your POV that shows your side of this situation. Specifically if you have evidence of utilizing in game VOIP or radio to figure out this location OR having previously decided upon this location for a meeting spot. Martin_Jenkins | ID 125- @Elt0bar How did you know where to go? Please provide your POV that shows your side of this situation. Specifically if you have evidence of utilizing in game VOIP or radio to figure out this location OR having previously decided upon this location for a meeting spot. The above mentioned players will be notified in game as appropriate and will receive 24 hours to provide their side of the story. We look forward to hearing back from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4k3n705h Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 15 hours ago, krooks365 said: Thank you for your responses and patience as we are reviewing the report. Prior to concluding this report, we would like to hear statements from the players as specified below Jamal_Scupe | ID 248- @m4k3n705h Please provide your POV from this encounter. Especially if you have any evidence of you and ID 287 & 125 utilizing in game radio or VOIP or if you have evidence of you and ID 287 & 125 agreeing to meet at that location. Why did you pull your gun while under Fear RP at the end of the provided evidence? How did ID 287 & 125 know exactly where to go? Mathhais_Dyan | ID 287- @Mathhias Dyan How did you know where to go? Please provide your POV that shows your side of this situation. Specifically if you have evidence of utilizing in game VOIP or radio to figure out this location OR having previously decided upon this location for a meeting spot. Martin_Jenkins | ID 125- @Elt0bar How did you know where to go? Please provide your POV that shows your side of this situation. Specifically if you have evidence of utilizing in game VOIP or radio to figure out this location OR having previously decided upon this location for a meeting spot. The above mentioned players will be notified in game as appropriate and will receive 24 hours to provide their side of the story. We look forward to hearing back from you! Hello, I was speaking in radio with my buddies earlier, we were supposed to meet at parking lot after a shoot out, and they knew that I was somewhere around there, so once I got down, they saw me, and came there(you can even hear the car circling around in the video). There was no metagaming, we all had radio's and we are only using radio's. I said “yo lads we have one man”. They were talking in radio and they thought that something is wrong and by accident they still found me in down alley(because saw me going down). I admit that I might have broken FearRP rule but in this situation he was outgunned, outnumbered so how he still can hold pistol without getting shoot by my buddies(I assume that he FearRp’ed also - he started running when 3guys were pointing guns). Plus, I couldn’t RP back, because he didn’t /do. I can’t film POV due low-end PC. But I would like to know and review this situation again because I can’t hear what guy that have made this report is talking IC(sound is cut). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathhias Dyan Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 2:09 AM, krooks365 said: Thank you for your responses and patience as we are reviewing the report. Prior to concluding this report, we would like to hear statements from the players as specified below Jamal_Scupe | ID 248- @m4k3n705h Please provide your POV from this encounter. Especially if you have any evidence of you and ID 287 & 125 utilizing in game radio or VOIP or if you have evidence of you and ID 287 & 125 agreeing to meet at that location. Why did you pull your gun while under Fear RP at the end of the provided evidence? How did ID 287 & 125 know exactly where to go? Mathhais_Dyan | ID 287- @Mathhias Dyan How did you know where to go? Please provide your POV that shows your side of this situation. Specifically if you have evidence of utilizing in game VOIP or radio to figure out this location OR having previously decided upon this location for a meeting spot. Martin_Jenkins | ID 125- @Elt0bar How did you know where to go? Please provide your POV that shows your side of this situation. Specifically if you have evidence of utilizing in game VOIP or radio to figure out this location OR having previously decided upon this location for a meeting spot. The above mentioned players will be notified in game as appropriate and will receive 24 hours to provide their side of the story. We look forward to hearing back from you! As i said earlier, you can even hear ID 248 say "hey lads we got a man", we we're already on our way to the parking lot, how else would have we came in a minute. Also, dude didn't even let him rp the situation. We circled around for a bit and saw his vehicle and that's when we decided to come down there as well. No more explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasmine Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for submitting this report @ . After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players: Jamal_Scupe | ID 248- @m4k3n705h Non RP | Offense #4 | FearRP - Your initial kidnapping by ID 343 appears to be stalling, and FearRP, as you look to be intentionally pretending to misunderstand instructions given. However, without the audio of that ID 343 was saying, we can not conclude this to be stalling or FearRP. HOWEVER, at the end of the video, ID 343 is aiming a weapon at you, and even scrolling sideways and turning his viewpoint at you to keep you in his sights, after you stood up and started running away after having a gun pointed at you and demands having been given. You then draw your weapon as ID 343 is clearly pointing directly at you. This is a blatant violation of FearRP. You also have 2 prior punishments for FearRP. Having a numbers advantage does not erase the danger to your life as a weapon is pointed at you, and you must comply with demands given, unless the player no longer poses a threat. Using a very short 1-2 second window to run away, particularly as he immediately points his weapon back at you and gives demands, is unacceptable. Mathhais_Dyan | ID 287- @Mathhias Dyan Will receive no punishment. Although there is a doubt as to how you knew your ally was in that lower parking area, and you were able to see him or his car from the street, the evidence is not strong enough to support a Meta-Gaming offense. Use of third party communication is forbidden when used to effect gameplay. If you were in fact using 3rd party comms to locate your ally, this is strictly against server rules and you are advised to stop doing so. Martin_Jenkins | ID 125- @Elt0bar Will receive no punishment. Although there is a doubt as to how you knew your ally was in that lower parking area, and you were able to see him or his car from the street, the evidence is not strong enough to support a Meta-Gaming offense. Use of third party communication is forbidden when used to effect gameplay. If you were in fact using 3rd party comms to locate your ally, this is strictly against server rules and you are advised to stop doing so. If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. Kind regards, Moderator Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
