Alpha Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Player(s) being reported: ID 82 Date of interaction reported: 27/02/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1582815708 Your characters name: Sasha Vasilyev Other player(s) involved: - Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper roleplay reason and interaction. How did the player break the rule(s)? Just opened fire randomly really, not much to say more... We were chasing them, they pulled into entrance of Vory HQ and just stopped, i went close to them and they just started shooting everybody around them, without any demands or interaction. Evidence of rule breach: https://streamable.com/sqeql PS. I could not contact the person who opened fire because he just disconnected, i wanted to sort this out via ingame report but he just went off. Edited February 27, 2020 by Alpha_WoT Was not mass* my mistake 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Thank you for making this player report. This report is pending review from @MrSilky and myself. We will be with you shortly! Best Regards, Aldarine & @MrSilky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Thank you for your patience as I reviewed the report. Prior to concluding this report, I would like to hear statements from the players as specified below. Gustavo_Escobar | ID 82 @Vladim - Please provide your point of view in regards to the reported situation. Along with this, please explain why you opened fired on the reporting party as well as others as can be seen in the reporting party's video. As always, should you have any recording or screenshots from your perspective, it would be much appreciated. The above mentioned players will be notified in game as appropriate and will receive 24 hours to provide their side of the story. We look forward to hearing back from you! Best Regards, Aldarine & @MrSilky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladim Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) So they came to our HQ, and from my point of view they were like 5 or 6 cars. And I started hearing shots and considered it is already a active shoot out. Because they are Zetas AND they were following us to HQ. And my initial thought was to defend my life by shooting people infront of me who have been following and terrorising me. Edited February 27, 2020 by Vladim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Thank you for your prompt response @Vladim. So to confirm, you simply heard shots and believed it to be appropriate to open fire upon multiple people? At no point in time was there a direct threat to you or your allies that you visualized? Do you believe it to be appropriate to open deadly fire upon people without specifically knowing if they are posing a threat to you? I look forward to your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladim Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) First of all, I would like to mention that the whole scene was an active shootout just on another side, but in the situation where I started to open fire was fast response cause i heard shots again towards us and i reacted to it quickly cause all of the people around our white paragon came into backup calls and others. so thats means that they came to fight and help their ally's. And like i said the scene was already kinda on heat. https://streamable.com/pkvd9 Edited February 27, 2020 by Vladim 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 @Alpha_WoT - Can you provide me with more details of the events leading up to chase? @Vladim - Did you at any point hear calls for backup or were involved in the shootout within the video that you provided? Video evidence specifically from your perspective would be very beneficial at this time if you are in possession of any. Thank you both in advance and I look forward to your responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 @Aldarine Umm so basically, I logged in just before this situation happened, the moment i received info about Zeta frequency and joined it and i heard Dwayne i believe in the comet said we are getting shot by some guys, i was not involved in the situation which was posted by Vladim because i joined after they went away chasing my own gang member so i had no idea there was shots fired at that location(close to the loan company property/behind this building), when i reached the location where they needed backup i followed in the Paragon and the Kamacho to the location where the Paragon passanger started blasting me for no reason. I dont believe that this was an active shootout area after the first scenario because there was a chase after it shots fired during it, it was not constant shooting happening in that specific area. In the video provided by the party being reported i dont see him anywhere during it, so i dont believe he witness any sort of shots just like me, which would mean he did not have a legit reason to shoot eventho if the area was still considered as an active shootout. Also i dont see why they wouldnt of shot straight away (all the other people), especially when they had so many people hiding in the bushes and they had the jump on us. I tried my best explaining my POV eventho its very short. If any other information is required please tag me i will get back to you asap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladim Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 @Aldarine You fully see how shootout started, and I got scared, because I heard shots and I thought shootout has began so I opened fired on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thank you to all parties for your prompt responses - this is very much appreciated. This report is now pending conclusion follow discussion and final review of all statements and provided evidence. Your patience at this time is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, Vladim said: @Aldarine You fully see how shootout started, and I got scared, because I heard shots and I thought shootout has began so I opened fired on him. Umm sorry but looking at the time stamps, it doesnt work out what you are saying, the report i submitted where you started shooting at me time stamp is: 1582815708 and in your video that YOU linked shots are fired at: 1582815588 its either you have very very delayed audio of like 120seconds which is ofc, not possible, or you are kinda lying that you heard shots and then you started shooting, because in my video i do not hear a single bullet being fired before you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladim Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 @Alpha_WoT There is no point of me to lie, believe me or not i heard gun shots. no more words from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Thank you kindly for your patience as I thoroughly reviewed this report and sincere apologies for the delay in this conclusion. Following extensive review, this report will be concluded as follows: Player Gustavo_Escobar will receive a Deathmatching punishment for the reported incident. To explain the rationale for this punishment I would like to first direct your attention to the video submitted by the reporting party. At the very start of the video it can be seen that multiple vehicles are following one person into, what is later established to be, his HQ. At this time there are no shots being fired at all and the reporting party backs out of the driveway towards the street. It is only when the reporting party is next to the reported party when gunfire begins and said gunfire is sprayed around to multiple individuals in different vehicles. Now, reviewing the video submitted by the reported party, it is correct that there was an engagement with gunfire prior to this situation at the HQ, however, at no point was the reporting party involved in said situation nor had visual on the individuals who were engaging. Along with this, no gunshots can be heard in the first submitted video and no threat was established at that scene. The reported party states they he believed he heard gunshots, got scared, and opened fire. This is simply not an acceptable reason to open fire on random individuals. Should you engage with another player and attack them, you must be absolutely sure that you are well within your rights as established by server rules and are not mis-opening fire. You are required to have proper and concrete reasoning for the exact reason you are attacking each and every individual and that is not seen here especially considering the reporting party had no prior interaction with you, was not involved in the earlier engagement, and was of no plausible threat. Making an assumption of threat is not a valid means to attack and as such this report will be accepted and above mentioned punishment issued. Report accepted. Best Regards, Aldarine & @MrSilky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
