Fear RP 126

[Meowksius]

Player(s) being reported: ID 126
Date of interaction reported: 26/02/2020
Unix time stamp from HUD: https://imgur.com/HzAUWjj
Your characters name: Emil Diamos

Other player(s) involved: 

Specific rule(s) broken:
 

13. Fear Roleplay (FRP)

• Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life.

• Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range.

• When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range.

• When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger.

• Driving a vehicle into an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover.

• Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are in a car which engine is not stalled.

• When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked.

• When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you.

• As a victim, whose life is in direct danger:

• You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker.

• You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

ID 126 Full speed rams me knowing he can loose control of his car on a brige then flies of it not carring for his or his friends life at all.

Evidence of rule breach:

 

[krooks365]

After further research this report is regarding a member of staff and will be pending review from a head administrator. 

Your patience is appreciated. 

Edited February 26, 2020 by krooks365

[Jones42]

Hello ID 126 here.

Thank-You for taking time to create this forum report, Unfortunately I wasn't informed I would be getting reported and didn't save my footage.

We were being ambushed at 'Mors Insurance', I took the opportunity to drive up onto the overpass to disperse the group that was up there firing down at us, My intentions were to drive through the group to disperse them, upon driving through the group (and as seen in the reporters footage) the bike moved into the path of the 4-5 tonne+ truck, causing it to unrealistically flip onto its side and roll off the freeway.

I made an attempt to move around your bike, which i could of showed you, if you had given me the opportunity to save my footage, I personally don't believe a rule break has occurred, realistically my truck would of flattened you and your bike and not flip into an unintentional barrel roll. I apologise if you feel like your Role-Play was ruined by this as i'm only here to have fun and promote good role-play, but the situation was out of my hands after the contact with your bike.

I would like to thank in advance the member(s) of staff that takes this report.

[Meowksius]

30 minutes ago, Jones42 said:

Hello ID 126 here.

Thank-You for taking time to create this forum report, Unfortunately I wasn't informed I would be getting reported and didn't save my footage.

We were being ambushed at 'Mors Insurance', I took the opportunity to drive up onto the overpass to disperse the group that was up there firing down at us, My intentions were to drive through the group to disperse them, upon driving through the group (and as seen in the reporters footage) the bike moved into the path of the 4-5 tonne+ truck, causing it to unrealistically flip onto its side and roll off the freeway.

I made an attempt to move around your bike, which i could of showed you, if you had given me the opportunity to save my footage, I personally don't believe a rule break has occurred, realistically my truck would of flattened you and your bike and not flip into an unintentional barrel roll. I apologise if you feel like your Role-Play was ruined by this as i'm only here to have fun and promote good role-play, but the situation was out of my hands after the contact with your bike.

I would like to thank in advance the member(s) of staff that takes this report.

as you say yourself the situation was out of your hands after contact so, you lost control of the vehicle, as you would in real life, yes you woulnd do a flip in real life, but you would loose control, and possibly fly of a bridge.

[Jones42]

I lost control of the vehicle yes (Game Mechanics, it can go either way), a 4-5 tonne truck would of just flattened the bike not lost control, but I've also stated my intention wasn't to ram, i tried to go around you, but you pulled forward. My footage would of shown that but you failed to notify me of a report coming my way.

I will not reply further, unless instructed to by the member of staff dealing with the report. 

Thank you for replying Meowksius.

[Dqniel]

Hello, and thank you for submitting this player report! I would like to take this opportunity to thank both parties involved for remaining patient while this report has been carefully reviewed. With that being said, after extensively reviewing this player report as well as taking the statements of both parties into account, i have decided to conclude this report.

Player Jaykae_Jones will receive no punishment(s).

The reported party was not aware of the fact that he was about to encounter a life threatening and dangerous situation, let alone anticipate hitting you and subsequently have his vehicle flip in the way that it did and this becomes evident in the provided evidence displaying the reporting parties point of view. The reported party mentioned that he had no intentions of utilizing his vehicle to ram you and this can be further strengthened by the fact that you swerve into the direction of his moving vehicle last second and leaving him with no other options than running you over. This does not necessarily indicate that the reported party ran you over knowing that his vehicle would flip in the way that it did, this was caused solely accidental actions and game mechanics. It is important to remember that there is a clear distinction between knowingly and unknowingly doing this, and looking at the evidence provided above in this punishment appeal it becomes clear that the reported party unknowingly did this.

I do understand the reporting parties point of view during this situation, however we cannot reasonably expect the reported party to roleplay fear when faced with a direct threat, when the reported party does not even acknowledge or know about said direct threat in the first place, which becomes evident in the provided footage linked above where he does not predict his vehicle flipping in the way it did. I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the reported party that had he acknowledged the threat in the first place, the outcome of his actions would have been different and as such there will be no punishments issued.

Thank you for remaining patient and submitting this player report! @Meowksius
This report is rejected and archived. 

With regards, 
Dqniel.