krooks365 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Player(s) being reported: ID 24, 21, 7, and 5 Date of interaction reported: 2/22-23/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1582439795 Your characters name: Chi Kwang Other player(s) involved: Vince_Draco (95), Brad_Gordon (68), Dom_Presky (59), Abel_Valatino (115), Alan_Romano (14), Yuki_Zhou (9), Zion_Willard (43), etc (a few zetas as well) Specific rule(s) broken: Players must not have mods, trainers, or any kind of software installed that gives any advantage. Server bugs may not be used for advantage and must be reported on ECLIPSE Roleplay forums. Server scripts should not be exploited in any way to your advantage, e.g. circumventing AFK timer. Metagaming is the act of relaying IC information through any method not considered IC that has the potential to change current or future roleplay scenarios or using that information. Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. For example, a player uses IC chat to call someone by their player ID displayed above their head. How did the player break the rule(s)? I firmly believe that the reported parties were utilizing an aimbot/cheat/advantage in some way. Somehow over the course of a long chase they were able to shoot only head and spine shots despite being in a moving car the entire time. They were able to shoot out tires and head shots only at speeds in excess of 80 mph. They were able to snipe out any driver that approached them with one shot head shots. There is no way this could all just be a chance considering desync and everything. This was compounded by the fact that they did not appear to take damage when we returned fire. We en masse came up and blasted the vehicle and only one out of the four took damage. I have included screenshots of wounds from players to show that shots were to head and spine. Furthermore they were meta gaming as you can see in the linked video I have included. You can hear the other guys on the man’s VOIP. Finally though I do not have evidence of it I would like to state that they fired upon our vehicle without having DM rights at the start of this chase. I am not adding it to my report as I do not have evidence of it as my video did not record it. Evidence of rule breach: Video of Meta: https://streamable.com/ovz2f 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob11 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Hello I am ID 5, So I want to tell that it's common sense that if people are chasing us in vehicle, the only thing that is exposed to us is their head when shooting from front and spine when we are shooting from behind. Its gonna be really helpful if they post the video as the evidence because you will see how much we missed and hit only few. They only posted the screenshot and there's no telling in how much we missed. It common that out of 10, we gonna at least hit one head shot (as i mentioned, it was the only thing exposed to us , we cant hit legs,chest or arms in cars,can we) according to meta gaming, i have no connection to it, you will ask the other guy about it and if needed, i can let you hear my voice as the evidence. When i get to know that they are going to report me so i start recording and in that video you can see i was using nothing if i were using the hacks , i would have killed all of them with one shot or head shot and would not ran away in car. https://kapwi.ng/c/Wa5kMFKa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zion Willard Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Two instant headshots on a moving vehicle downing me. I find it funny that you all opened fire without coordinating anything through voip. I also strongly believe that these four are taking advantage of the bug where you "ghost fire" as they shot off thousands of rounds during the 15-30 minute chase that ensued - and the one I captured & killed later had 3 bullets in his pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob11 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Zion Willard said: Two instant headshots on a moving vehicle downing me. I find it funny that you all opened fire without coordinating anything through voip. I also strongly believe that these four are taking advantage of the bug where you "ghost fire" as they shot off thousands of rounds during the 15-30 minute chase that ensued - and the one I captured & killed later had 3 bullets in his pistol. Thanks for giving one clip and I want to tell you that i am not the guy who shot you. I am the guy who was sitting on front and i didn't shoot a single bullet in this video. About Ammo I looted your guys 2 time and i get alot of ammo from them but in last i was having only 4 ammo when you guys killed me because i shot all bullets till that time and when ever i am low on health i waste my ammo because i dont want others to take my ammo. Edited February 23, 2020 by jacob11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garou18 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I am ID 21. You clipped one death where you guys died quick, wanna show the 10 minutes before that and the chase after that where we shot 100+ bullets and only killed like two of you? Your car pulled over right beside us and 2-3 people shot at you, what do you expect? As for why we are shooting the head, your sitting in a car, of course the bullets are going to hit your head, since that, and your shoulders are the only things that are even possible to hit. Even in your screenshots, you can see we hit your neck/clavicle/and head. Just we have good aim, doesnt mean we're cheating. Get better bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooks365 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Quote Wanna show the 10 minutes before that and the chase after that where we shot 100+ bullets and only killed like two of you? This is simply untrue. You downed far more than 2 of us which can easily be confirmed by looking at kill logs. Perhaps it is as you say and you all have really good aim but the accuracy of your aim especially considering that we were traveling at speeds in excess of 80mph and swerving all over the road is suspect. I also find it suspect that over the course of hours long chase you guys never had to reload your weapons while we had to multiple times. In a 8 v 4 that doesn't add up to me. That is why I have brought up the suspicion of aim assist. Quote "Your car pulled over right beside us and 2-3 people shot at you, what do you expect?" I expect you guys to issue valid demands or to interact in some way that grants you DM rights before shooting at us. You only issued demands AFTER you had already begun shooting and those demands were not valid as we were traveling at speeds in excess of 80mph. I am happy to upload a longer clip of this chase once I am home from work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garou18 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Yea make sure your buddies upload all of their videos too. We got into sealab to cook, and then all of a sudden a bunch of red cars start following us when we spam demands to not follow. OH BUT ITS DM YEA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter786 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Hi, ID 24 here. First of all i would like to state my side of story. So about metagaming , it was my younger cousin talking in the background in his own language because he was watching me play (What he said was in our first language which translates as "people kill, people kill". My cousin was trying to say to kill the guy who was looting the body but he didn't knew it was my own teammate who was looting the body). I don't think i'm the only person in the world who has people in their household talking in the background. Metagaming is sharing information through illegal or third party softwares and using it for advantage. I don't think my little cousin who (was watching me play when sitting besides me) was simply commenting at my gameplay in the background could count as metagaming. I kindly request them to post the video evidence(full video not the cut one) and you will see our aim and its not hitting every single one instead we missed them so many times and as my friend mentioned above, it's common sense its gonna hit only head or the spine when in vehicle because that's the only thing exposed to us. They said we did DM, even though we shouted the commands both through voip and text before shooting. ID 29 had time to say "uhhh na" and others was talking through voip but he didn't had time to react to commands? That's absurd. We waited for a while before we shot and they had complete valid time to react to all this but what do they do? They keep following us and shoot or try to ram whenever they get close to us. They were even blocking us with sports cars which isn't allowed. Especially the people in pink sports car. Keep in mind we were using .50s. The video they mentioned above, it is clearly shown when you watch it in slow motion we missed 3-4 shots and then two of us hit (with two .50s) the driver (who had 70-75%) coincidentally at the same time. You can even see in the injuries that the driver was shot twice, not once and .50 takes a bit of second to get back on track because of recoil so it's not possible to hit 2 rapid shots with a .50 in an instance hence the case of two people shooting at the same time on the same target coincidentally comes to take place. First they were saying we had aim assist, now they're saying we were one shotting people? If we were one shotting people then how come we only one shot 1 driver and not the other dozens of people we were trying to shoot? I think you should review your clips before making accusations. We were all focusing on killing the drivers because if we kill them everyone else in the car would be stopped. That's always the first aim in every other game too. If you shoot the driver, the car can't follow and the passengers are left open and become easy targets. Also you said, shots were only spine and head. So why is there thigh, neck, right clavicle etc. Aim assist should only do headshot and without missing. If we were using cheats, there would not have been any shots missed plus there would have not even been a chase to begin with because if we were using any kind of cheats, they would all be dead before the chase started. Update on your suspicions and questions: You guys said you were chasing us for hours we didn't had to reload or supply up? Then you should know this that we lost the chase more than 4-5 times and went back into the city to our stash house to grab more ammo and other stuff. We even lost the chase couple of times to fuel up . You can ask your friends or other people that were involved in the scene for clarification. And as far as the DM rights go, the chase started at the sea lab when a a biker come close to us and we talked to him a bit before giving him demands all the while we were stationary. We gave him proper time to react before shooting him as he started taking off on his bike, he was under fear rp yet he completely disregarded the fact that we had guns on him, He used radio to call more people and then the chase started. Most of the guys involved in this rp scene was called for backup. If you weren't involve in the scene then why did you not pass over kamacho and go away? Instead you all were hell bent on chasing us even after we gave commands to the vehicles that was stationary or driving as the same speed as the kamacho. So you can't really use the excuse that we DMed when it was proper rp. All of you had enough time to react. And most of you even replied when we were giving demands using voip. Edited February 24, 2020 by Hunter786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooks365 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 This is my last reply to this other that to insert a longer video and also if an admin asks me to. As it is not my intention to argue with you guys. I had suspicions, many other people had suspicions, and therefore I have gathered my evidence and reported my suspicions. The admins will decide and I am okay with whatever they decide. There is no need to go back and forth on it. I do want to address this however. Quote And as far as the DM rights go, the chase started at the sea lab when a a biker come close to us and we talked to him a bit before giving him demands all the while we were stationary. We gave him proper time to react before shooting him as he started taking off on his bike, he was under fear rp yet he completely disregarded the fact that we had guns on him, He used radio to call more people and then the chase started. Most of the guys involved in this rp scene was called for backup. If you weren't involve in the scene then why did you not pass over kamacho and go away? Instead you all were hell bent on chasing us even after we gave commands to the vehicles that was stationary or driving as the same speed as the kamacho. This is incorrect. I made the radio call that started this chase. We were in no way connected to the biker in Sea lab. I rolled up and saw you looting what looked like a rook in the blue Novak because I was going to sea lab to cook. We decided we wanted to rob you guys for whatever you looted off the rook and I called backup. As soon as backup arrived you guys shot and killed Zion per the video he submitted above. You killed him before issuing us demands of any kind. ID 29 was not with us in the chase therefore your demands to him does not apply to us as we are not connected. If someone can confirm the translation for the meta I will drop it from my report as I am willing to believe it was your brother in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recruit101 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I am id 7. I was driving the truck or that off road car/vehicle. I do not understand how i was using aim assist or any kind of thing when i was literally the driver. All i could do is drive around and that is all. I think you should check your report and make things clear. And as far as metagaming goes, i do not think that me not using my mic is metagaming. I only used my mic on several occasions because i was too nervous to press push to talk or do anything else. I had to focus on driving. There was not even one moment when i got out of truck. I had nothing on me. In the end i was killed off by blue people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter786 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, krooks365 said: This is my last reply to this other that to insert a longer video and also if an admin asks me to. As it is not my intention to argue with you guys. I had suspicions, many other people had suspicions, and therefore I have gathered my evidence and reported my suspicions. The admins will decide and I am okay with whatever they decide. There is no need to go back and forth on it. I do want to address this however. This is incorrect. I made the radio call that started this chase. We were in no way connected to the biker in Sea lab. I rolled up and saw you looting what looked like a rook in the blue Novak because I was going to sea lab to cook. We decided we wanted to rob you guys for whatever you looted off the rook and I called backup. As soon as backup arrived you guys shot and killed Zion per the video he submitted above. You killed him before issuing us demands of any kind. ID 29 was not with us in the chase therefore your demands to him does not apply to us as we are not connected. If someone can confirm the translation for the meta I will drop it from my report as I am willing to believe it was your brother in the background. No, the chase started exactly from area around/ the road that leads into the sea lab and about blue novak around the sealab. I don't believe there was any there other than bikes and other cars. I might be wrong but i know at the moment i only saw bikes and other cars but no blue novak. My friend did get out to loot somebody who might have been a rook but even during that time when the kamacho was stationary, my friend kept on giving commands to people around so they don't get the idea that we will shoot if you don't comply yet we didn't shoot at that moment. We got back on track and started going to highway but even during that time my friend was giving commands, especially to the ones in comet. Also in the video you provided, you could see the demands clearly but we didn't shoot you until we heard the person in car said "Shoot him nigga" three times to someone named Alan. By the way, what the person said in the background is "Bande mar, bande mar" which translates as "people kill, people kill". You can confirm it with anyone. Edited February 24, 2020 by Hunter786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Hello and thank you for making the report @krooks365! This is now pending review. I'll be reading over the replies, and will send out inquiries if required. Sincerely, alexalex303 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Hello. I would like to begin by apologizing for the delay in the resolution of the report, investigating allegations of cheating is time-consuming, and we need to be sure before issuing punishments, as cheating is punished extremely harshly. After careful deliberation and consultation with other staff members, I have decided upon the following: Player ID 24 - King_Noctis - already banned for cheating for a separate incident. Player ID 21 - Kaiji_Andrews - will be banned for ammo cheats for this incident. Player ID 7 - John_Striker - no conclusive evidence of cheating was found. Player ID 5 - Tyson_Broadus - was already banned for ban evading, was cheating on his previous account. Sincerely, alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
