Sineye Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Player(s) being reported: 224, 154 Date of interaction reported: Date here Unix time stamp from HUD: 30 | 1582404193 Your characters name: Luca Popovici Other player(s) involved: N/a Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper roleplay reason and interaction. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with plausible demands, attempt to escape, or call backup. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack a player on foot more than once, including a failed attempt. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger: • When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. • When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range. • When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger. • Driving a vehicle into an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. • When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked. • When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you. As a victim, whose life is in direct danger: • You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker. • You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you. How did the player break the rule(s)? Player 224 was found pick locking an allies car. I chased him to keep eyes on him and informed the group out the car being stolen. He we through the garage when backup arrived and I followed to keep eyes on him. His friend arrived and ran me over id 154 and 224 got in the car and the proceeded to drive off. I survived and proceeded to text my backup that they had ran me over. I was fin with the RP up to this point. At this point after this point they decided to back up and start making demands to a man wielding a knife with just their fists punching me giving me non plausible demands. After me pulling out my knife they continued to chase me attempting to punch me while I have a knife in my hand. I find it to be very poor rp for someone to try to punch someone to death while that person is wielding a knife as it would certainly end in their death as it almost did for on of them. At this point they realized they would lose that fight and 224 proceeded to hop back in the car. While on foot attempt to chase the other attacker as he was not in the car I was ran over by the same car again killing me. They could have very easily gotten his ally into the car and driven off. In my opinion by someone coming back and attempting to rob someone who was a knife and trying to punch him to death while giving invalid demands as I said is very poor rp and clear fear rp as knowing I had a knife as they acknowledge they should have left and not tried to punch me to death. Not to mention the fact they ran me over with the car twice because they were unable to kill me since I had the knife. I addressed this with them and they denied hitting me with the car twice and I could not get a hold of staff which leaves me here. Evidence of rule breach: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoD Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hello, thank you for making this report. Please be patient whilst I look into it. MarcoD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoD Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Players Geneva_Ayala (154) and Jeffrey_Golens (224) have 24 hours to respond with their side of the story. @Jediah @Marvin2341 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediah Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hello, Jediah here, first off i would like to apologize to the reporting party, for feeling that we breached a rule. I dont feel like we breached ANY rules at all. i know it was kind of stupid while saying hands up, when we werent armed. But we came back and started beating him because his knife was holstered and he was on his phone. We then started beating him and we werent under fear rp until he took out his knife, then we started running. My friend then hopped in the car, circled around and ran him over, since he was trying to stab me. i was the first person to run him over since he did threaten my friends life, my friend NEVER ran him over before i ran him over. He NEVER ran him over twice, he ran him over once and according to the rules u can run people over one time per person, and also u WERENT weilding a knife as u can see through 0:47-1:04. Kind Regards, Jediah Onfroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin2341 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 ID 224 Here I'd like to start of by saying that instead of dealing with this through the report option in game you promted to doing a forum report. I'd like to quote the Player Report Requirements "Please do not take reporting another player lightly and reserve player reports for situations that have caused severe loss or were abused for benefit. Consider if you could possibly teach this player or if you've tried to come to a resolution on your own. Reporting another player should be reserved for your final options when a rule breach has occurred."((https://imgur.com/a/fqBuTi4)). My side of the story was that the reporting party was chasing me with a Knife,so I Radio'ed in to my friend that I am being chased and that I needed help immediatley.Then my friend rammed the guy that was chasing me and I got into the Vehicle.We were about to leave when we then see that the guy that was chasing me with a knife pulled out his phone and holstered his knife.and It was pretty clear to us that he was hurt bad since my friend hit him with car and he was limping so we got out and 2v1 a person that didn't have his knife out at that point of time with our fists. which In my opinion is not breaking FearRP since It was 2v1 and he unholstered his knife and was hurt pretty bad and you can see at the end of the clip when he actually pulled the knife I backed up and tried to get to the car.That's when I saw that he was actively trying to kill my friend with the knife so I decided to protect my ally and run him over. Kind Regards,Jeffrey Golens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sineye Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jediah said: Hello, Jediah here, first off i would like to apologize to the reporting party, for feeling that we breached a rule. I dont feel like we breached ANY rules at all. i know it was kind of stupid while saying hands up, when we werent armed. But we came back and started beating him because his knife was holstered and he was on his phone. We then started beating him and we werent under fear rp until he took out his knife, then we started running. My friend then hopped in the car, circled around and ran him over, since he was trying to stab me. i was the first person to run him over since he did threaten my friends life, my friend NEVER ran him over before i ran him over. He NEVER ran him over twice, he ran him over once and according to the rules u can run people over one time per person, and also u WERENT weilding a knife as u can see through 0:47-1:04. Kind Regards, Jediah Onfroy Your attacking someone who has a knife on him knowing he has one option but to pull it out and kill you. Explain how this ends well for you? Fists vs knife just doesn't make sense. You two should have feared for you life as you were out armed and leaving your vehicle could very well end in your death. If you had I would not have died and there would be no need to run me over the second time. Edited February 22, 2020 by Sineye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin2341 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Sineye said: Your attacking someone who has a knife on him knowing he has one option but to pull it out and kill you. Explain how this ends well for you? Fists vs knife just doesn't make sense. 2V1 and you didn't have the knife out when you actually did I feared for my life and got away from the situatin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sineye Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Start 1:02 you charge a man who is clearly wielding a knife trying to punch him. Why did you think this is sound rp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin2341 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Sineye said: Start 1:02 you charge a man who is clearly wielding a knife trying to punch him. Why did you think this is sound rp? I think your mixing the ID's up I said "oh fuck a knife" and then I jumped the fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sineye Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 154 so @Jediah not you. You are correct in that. Why did you charge me when I had a knife drawn. Also why did you think to chase a man who clearly pull out a knife and stab you for doing so. There is not a single scenario where I do not decided to do that. You knew I had the knife. Edited February 22, 2020 by Sineye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sineye Posted February 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Any update on this? It has been well over 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawpi Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Please, remain patient. No report will ever be rushed to be concluded. This requires a lot of attention to the detail and proper investigation. Some reports can take a few hours to solve, others can take weeks. Please, refrain from commenting and bumping this topic any further unless you are asked by the member of staff that has taken this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sineye Posted February 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Guango said: Fear rp is a great idea Do you even have anything to do with this report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoD Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Thank you for your responses. After reviewing the footage and discussing with other staff members I have come to the conclusion that no rules were broken. VDM is not valid here because different players ran you over and both had valid reason to as you were endangering the friend of the driver both times. I also do not think there is enough for FearRP here. They did not actively engage you and fight you without any fear at all, whilst they did try to fight you two on one they realised they shouldn't because of the knife and ran back to the car. Report Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
