ID 177 DM

[Leo_Kresas]

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Player(s) being reported: ID 177
Date of interaction reported: 21/02/2020
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1582317989

Your characters name: Leo_Kresas

Other player(s) involved: A lot of WCA and Triads members.

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

• Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper roleplay reason and interaction.

• Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with plausible demands, attempt to escape, or call backup.

• A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

• A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

• If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

• Vehicles cannot be used to attack a player on foot more than once, including a failed attempt.

• Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

  1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

  2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

  3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

• You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

ID 177 opened fire at me without any demands given.

Evidence of rule breach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaxTFXYDhzs

[Killah]

Hello, here’s Manuel. As you can see in his own video he pulled out a pistol so I used fearRP seeing that he had a gun out and in character our gangs have a conflict so i used FearRP to determine that if i didnt shoot first that he was going to shoot so than i had shot first and as you can see he was quick to shoot back so i had a reason to shoot first in fear for my life and his colleague was shooting on us. I didn’t notice any kind of dm in that situation. Here’s my friend record https://streamable.com/7idj9 it explain everything itself

[krooks365]

Thank you for making this report @Leo_Kresas

This will now be reviewed.

Your patience while we are reviewing it is appreciated. 

@Jasmine and Krooks365

Edited February 21, 2020 by krooks365

[krooks365]

Thank you for your patience as we reviewed the report. Prior to concluding this report, we would like to hear statements from the players that were involved.

Anyone involved will receive 24 hours to provide their side of the story or to submit additional evidence for review. We look forward to hearing back from you!

Jasmine and Krooks365

[Jasmine]

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

The initial shootout occurred because your accomplice aimed his weapon at your assailants:

When ID 177 fires directly at ID 156 for the first time, ID 156 was aiming at ID 177.

1 shot was fired in the general direction of ID 156 prior to this shot, but cannot be proved to be aimed at player 156 (as player 156 was out of sight when the shot was fired, & it impacted the dumpster). It is also important to note that ID 156 was unable to see this round fired in his direction. ID 156 heard gunshots, and therefore aimed at 177 as he came around the dumpster. This nullifies any FearRP, as both players are facing each other with weapons pointed. Meaning both players are allowed to attack.

Therefore, after reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to issue a note on the account of the following player(s):

• Manuel_Felipe [ID 177] - Although the first shot was likely intended for ID 156, it is not conclusive. The first effective shot at ID 156 was when he was pointing at you. However, in the future be advised more care should be taken before opening fire. It is your responsibility as the shooter to have a valid reason to attack, and be able to provide evidence. Your driver telling you to shoot is not a reason to fire, nor is relying on other players POVs to justify your actions. If you do not have evidence, and are not 100% sure you have a right to attack, do not attack.

This incident will be noted in your account, and future incidents will likely result in a more severe punishment.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 

Regards,

Jasmine and Krooks365