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ID 59 - Non-RP

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Player(s) being reported: ID 59 - Unknown
Date of interaction reported: 24/10/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1571924007


Your characters name: Curt Maddox

Other player(s) involved: N/A

Specific rule(s) broken:

8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

  • Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.


How did the player break the rule(s)?

Having the ability to take out his radio, toggle the frequency whilst having gunshot wounds and still being shot whilst on the ground. 

Evidence of rule breach:

I wouldn't be posting a report if I wasn't adamant it is a rule-break.

Past report where the same action was carried out : 

 

Video Evidence of Rule Break :

 

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Hello and thank you for making this report @MohammedAli!

 

Firstly, (Reporter) - Why could Teamspeak be heard in the background of the evidence?

ID 59 - Bill_Kapri | @Virjis - Why did you proceed to change your radio frequency whilst having multiple gunshot wounds in the middle of a firefight? During the last moments of changing your frequency, you were also being shot at multiple times in the chest.

 

All parties mentioned above will be given 24 hours to respond or the report may be concluded without them.

Sincerely,
Emulsify and Dqniel.
 

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43 minutes ago, Emulsify said:

Firstly, (Reporter) - Why could Teamspeak be heard in the background of the evidence?

I was on Teamspeak at the time of the incident. In a AFK lobby where I can't hear nor talk to others.

This channel had no link to Eclipse RP whatsoever.

I'm sure the reported party would agree hearing the TeamSpeak in the background does not indicate Metagaming of any sort as I was solo through-out the incident and the incident ended with me, alone. No other players, apart from the three in the video including myself, were involved whatsoever.

If for some reason the video provided is not sufficient enough to show the rule-break, which I doubt it would be as it covers it completely, I have footage available from the start of the scenario to the end which I can send to a staff member directly if needed. Either that or a report can be created on myself for Metagaming separate to this thread. I am happy with whatever is best. 

Thanks

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Hello, firstly i'd like address the fact that the video is entirely edited, you jump from one scene to another scene mid gunfight which is a bit weird and it looks like you are trying to hide something so please, post the full footage here and not just for the staff members as i am directly involved in this. Second of all the radio freq, I've been shot once before i go down, maybe in your footage twice as the second shot would have looked like it hit but i fell to the floor at that point so that shot is debatable. Then when i'm grounded you shoot me once more before starting to reload so in that instance i know i am about to die, i have no way of defending myself and the only thing i can do is hit a button on my radio to switch channels to save my gang. I am going to die either way so it wasn't like i didn't follow demands. If you look at how 2 way radios work, you only need to hit 1 button(on some of them 2 buttons) to switch channels. To sum everything up, i think that after 2 gunshots (possibly 3 as i haven't got my footage to prove this as i was unaware of the report) i would still have enough life to reach for my waist or my head ( as that is where the radio is located) to press a button to switch the channel on the radio. 

What is also interesting is that this did not affect your roleplay in no way, from this situation you retrieved several weapons from us including a heavy weapon and the frequency would have been found on the other person.  IF this is considered a rule break i don't understand why you didn't bring this up in the PM's and i could have even told you what freq, redone it and ect, Instead you decide to take your time to write a forum report which to me it gives of vibes of some type of OOC toxicity. Whatever tho, not gonna reply no more unless directly asked by staff.

 

Edit: I have nothing to say to anything apart from you saying that you couldn't contact due of the ID's but you didn't try and the toxicity feels like it's towards the faction not me personally but that's just my opinion. Also you can provide the full footage now 

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All video and screenshot evidence may not be edited or tampered with in any way. Posting tampered or manufactured evidence may result in a ban from the game.

 

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1 hour ago, Bill Kapri said:

Hello, firstly i'd like address the fact that the video is entirely edited, you jump from one scene to another scene mid gunfight which is a bit weird and it looks like you are trying to hide something so please, post the full footage here and not just for the staff members as i am directly involved in this. Second of all the radio freq, I've been shot once before i go down, maybe in your footage twice as the second shot would have looked like it hit but i fell to the floor at that point so that shot is debatable. Then when i'm grounded you shoot me once more before starting to reload so in that instance i know i am about to die, i have no way of defending myself and the only thing i can do is hit a button on my radio to switch channels to save my gang. I am going to die either way so it wasn't like i didn't follow demands. If you look at how 2 way radios work, you only need to hit 1 button(on some of them 2 buttons) to switch channels. To sum everything up, i think that after 2 gunshots (possibly 3 as i haven't got my footage to prove this as i was unaware of the report) i would still have enough life to reach for my waist or my head ( as that is where the radio is located) to press a button to switch the channel on the radio. 

What is also interesting is that this did not affect your roleplay in no way, from this situation you retrieved several weapons from us including a heavy weapon and the frequency would have been found on the other person.  IF this is considered a rule break i don't understand why you didn't bring this up in the PM's and i could have even told you what freq, redone it and ect, Instead you decide to take your time to write a forum report which to me it gives of vibes of some type of OOC toxicity. Whatever tho, not gonna reply no more unless directly asked by staff.

I appreciate your reply and your side of the story.

First of all, I am happy to provide the full footage to a staff member directly if required. Or you can place a report on me because of how "weird" my evidence is as you may suspect MetaGaming. Like i said, my evidence provides the full rule-break, it does not require the full scene as context is not required for the action carried out. If we are beating around the bush, I would prefer it if you report me separately to my thread so we can beat around the bush properly and not shadow this rule-break. 

As for the loot taken, I only retrieved a radio from your body and realised the frequency is dead. This was rather odd as i first suspected MetaGaming so I looked further into it. After reviewing the footage, I noticed that you toggled the frequency whilst getting killed which is non-realistic. By this time, I had no method to contact you as IDs have changed etc.

This goes onto my next point, I do not know you. I have never interacted with you before nor know your discord, forum name, personal details. Anything. I have no form of communication and most importantly, have no OOC toxicity towards a stranger.

Thanks

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Hello, and thank you to everyone who responded with their side of the story and explained the reasoning for their actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. We would also like to take this opportunity to give our sincerest apologies for the delay and thank all parties involved for remaining patient while this report has been carefully reviewed. After extensively reviewing the provided evidence as well as taking the statements of all parties involved into consideration, we have decided to conclude this report.

Player Bill_Kapri will receive a Non-Roleplay punishment | Offense #3.

First and foremost, i would like to address the punishment of player Bill_Kapri and the reasoning behind it. In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that as you are being actively fired upon and shot at, you quickly change your radio frequency before ultimately being killed by the reporting party. This goes without saying as the rulebreak is incredibly blatant, but after careful deliberation and extensive review amongst multiple other staff members we came to the conclusion that your actions are not in accordance with our Non-Roleplay rules. Generally speaking, switching the frequency of a radio is not as easy as pressing one button and i fail to understand how a person would be conscious and coherent enough to be able to take out their radio and go through the various different steps of changing the radio frequency all while they are being actively shot at - it is not realistic in the slightest. I understand your idea behind it, but as mentioned multiple times across many reports, you can not win every fight and sometimes it is better to go with the flow of the roleplay and allow it to take its course rather than trying to diminish what could have been an interesting roleplaying scenario for the reporting party (aswell as your gang) at the expense of it becoming unrealistic and non-roleplay on your end. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated

Secondly, i would like to address the accusation regarding the reporting party potentially covering something up by cutting the video short. The reporting party sent me the full video along with the situation leading up to the provided evidence of this report, and after careful review i came to the conclusion that there were no cover ups or any rule breaches visible. The reporting party was not communicating with anyone through teamspeak nor was there anything out of the ordinary that would hint at him being in violation of any rules.

Thank you for making this report! @MohammedAli 

Report is accepted and archived.

Kind regards,

Emulsify & Dqniel.

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