ID 91 and 6 VDM

[funkop1]

Player(s) being reported: ID 91 and ID 6, names unknown
Date of interaction reported: 20/10/2019 17:00 
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1571666478
Your characters name: Dimitri Mandojev (#35), recorded by James Acton (#28 the driver of the bike)

Other player(s) involved: ID 28 (James Acton)

Specific rule(s) broken: 2 rules are highlighted

14. Deathmatch (DM)

• Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

• Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

• A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

• A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

• If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

• Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

• Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

• Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

  1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

  2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

  3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

• You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason

How did the player break the rule(s)?

The rulebreakers tried to kill us with his  truck even without roleplaying. As you can see in the video, he came and tried to ram us without saying a word.

Then they failed the attempt to ram us with a vehicle as you can see at 0:57. They didnt failt once, but failed 6 times to ram us hard  before hitting us good. This is clearly against the rules.

After 2 or 3 tries i aimed my gun and said get away or i will shoot. As you can see at 1:32, they had all chances to get away, but came back trying to ram us. He had no intention of getting away or stopping with his outragious behaviour.

The 2 were clearly not planning on stopping. We gave them all the opportunities to leave. but they didnt take those.

ID 91 and 6 clearly broke 2 rules and deserve to be punished accordingly, because this doesnt belong on the Eclipse Roleplay server.

Evidence of rule breach:

 

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Edited October 21, 2019 by funkop1

[Emulsify]

Thank you for making this report @funkop1.

 

Firstly, ID 35 - Dimitri_Mandojev | @funkop1 - At 1:01 in the provided evidence, why did you say "He tried to DM us"?

ID 91 - Nick_Blakok | @nickbi - Why did you attempt to knock the reporter and ID 35 off their bike multiple times even after one failed attempt?

ID 91 - Nick_Blakok | @nickbi - Why did you use scripted work vehicles to commit a crime?

ID 6 - Alex_Odinson | @alexsor - Why did you also attempt to knock off the two off their bike multiple times?

 

 

All parties mentioned above will be given 24 hours to respond or the report may be concluded without them.

Sincerely,
Emulsify and Dqniel.

Edited October 26, 2019 by Emulsify

[Alexx.]

 i just want to say that my initial attempt was to not let them leave by getting in their way and not try to knock them off the bike i know in the video that's what it seems.I do manage to drop one of them but i had no motives on killing them or hurt them in any way possible i was just trying to stall them enough for the police to arrive and arrest them and i also would like to point out that he started shooting me and i had to defend myself. I know the rules of the server because i have a lot of time in it and i respect the rules. I've never broken any rule and i would like to apologize if i broke one that's on me but as soon as they started shooting me that's when i was going to knock them off and i did manage that when i drop them both and then i did not approach them at all i stayed back and i let the police arrest them.For any further questions don't hesitate to contact me.

[Emulsify]

 

12 minutes ago, alexsor said:

i just want to say that my initial attempt was to not let them leave by getting in their way and not try to knock them off the bike i know in the video that's what it seems.I do manage to drop one of them but i had no motives on killing them or hurt them in any way possible i was just trying to stall them enough for the police to arrive and arrest them and i also would like to point out that he started shooting me and i had to defend myself. I know the rules of the server because i have a lot of time in it and i respect the rules. I've never broken any rule and i would like to apologize if i broke one that's on me but as soon as they started shooting me that's when i was going to knock them off and i did manage that when i drop them both and then i did not approach them at all i stayed back and i let the police arrest them.For any further questions don't hesitate to contact me.

ID 6 -  @alexsor - Thank you for your response. As we await the response of the other parties involved, i would like to ask you one final follow up question which was not asked initially. Can you please explain why you utilised an expensive sports vehicle to ram the vehicle of the reporting party multiple times?
You will receive 24 hours from the date of this post being made to respond

[Alexx.]

As i said all i wanted to do was to stall them enough so the police would come on time. I didn't want to knock them off their bike at first i was just trying to block their way with my car but as soon as they started shooting at me i needed to defend myself, i did a couple of tries not to ram them but just to scare them but i ended up ramming them for my protection and i successfully did it with one try and i did that cause they started shooting out of nowhere.

[funkop1]

Hi Emulsify, thanks for looking into this case. I said he tried to ram us, but because of my poor accent it looks like i said 'gram' or something. If you listen carefully you would hear me saying me 'gram' what should have mean ram us. I have a speech impediment on the 'R' since i was young.

I hope this clarified!

Greetings Dimitri Mandojev

[Dqniel]

Hello, and thank you to everyone who responded with their side of the story and explained the reasoning for their actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. We would also like to take this opportunity to give our sincerest apologies for the delay and thank all parties involved for remaining patient while this report has been carefully reviewed. After extensively reviewing the provided evidence as well as taking the statements of all parties involved into consideration, we have decided to conclude this report.

Player Nick_Blakok will receive a punishment for Deathmatch | Offense #1

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that as the reporting party and his friend (ID 35) is attempting to escape out of the truckers yard, they are suddenly rammed by you all for seemingly no valid reason and with no roleplay engagement having been established prior. Shortly after this occurs, a chase ensues in which you can be seen ramming the reporting party multiple times, including failed attempts. This goes without saying as the rulebreach in this situation is incredibly blatant, but the issue that arises with this situation is that your actions are not in accordance with our Deathmatch rules. It is very likely to assume that your reasoning for initially ramming the reporting party at the truckers yard was due to him attempting to steal your vehicle, however the current deathmatch rules state that valid reason as well as proper roleplay engagement must be established prior to attacking another player, and as this was not the case you are in violation of the Deathmatch rules. Furthermore, it can be seen that throughout this entire situation you ram the vehicle of the reporting party, including several failed attempts and this is not in accordance with our Deathmatch rules either. Players may not utilize their vehicle to attack a player more than once, including failed attempts and as you exceeded this number by a great deal you are in further violation of our Deathmatch rules. I sincerely hope this punishment makes you reflect on your actions, read up on the rules and acknowledge that what you did during this situation is not acceptable in a million years on this community.

Player Nick_Blakok will receive a Non-Roleplay punishment for utilizing a scripted work vehicle for crimes | Offense #1

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that you used a scripted work vehicle from the truckers job to criminally attack the reporting party multiple times. The issue that arises with this situation is that your actions are not in accordance with our Non-Roleplay rules. The purpose of the scripted work vehicles are as the name suggests, to fulfill the duties of said scripted work and doing otherwise, specifically using it for criminal purposes would fall under non-roleplay and is not allowed. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated.

Player Alex_Odinson will receive a punishment for Deathmatch | Offense #1

In the provided evidence of this report it can be seen that as the reporting party and his friend is in the process of being chased, they are ultimately rammed multiples times by you, including several failed attempts. This goes without saying as the rulebreach is incredibly blatant, but the issue that arises with this situation is that your actions are not in accordance with our Deathmatch rules. As stated in the Deathmatch section of the rulebook, players may not utilize their vehicle to attack a player more than once, including failed attempts and as you exceeded this number by a great deal you are in violation of our Deathmatch rules. Touching on the claim that the ramming was accidental is not plausible in my opinion, as you even acknowledge yourself that your initial intentions were only to “scare them” but you ultimately end up ramming them a total of two times, including two failed attempts. I do not believe you had any malicious intentions during this situation, but regardless our rules are incredibly clear regarding vehicles being used to attack a player more than once. The appropriate response would have been to stop ramming and attempting to ram the reporting party after the first failed attempt. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated.

Player Alex_Odinson will receive a Non-Roleplay punishment for utilizing an expensive vehicle to ram | Offense #1

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that you ram the vehicle of the reporting party multiple times in connection to the ongoing chase that you were all involved in. The issue that arises with this situation is that your actions are not in accordance with our Non-Roleplay rules. The Staff Team as well as the official rulebook has made it amply clear that ramming with an expensive vehicle is not tolerable, and falls under Non-Roleplay as per the server rulebook. Players are to treasure their expensive vehicles and take care of them rather than damaging them by ramming other vehicles. If you need to slow down another vehicle and you are in an espensive vehicle, there are other ways to do that. Ramming it would definitely be one of the incorrect ways. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated

Thank you for making this player report! @funkop1 

Report is accepted and archived.

Kind regards,

Emulsify & Dqniel.