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Player(s) being reported: ID 74 (DM, NON-RP RAM) 
Date of interaction reported: 10/15/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1571092711

Your characters name: Andre Abasi (ID115)

Other player(s) involved: ID 80,81 (allies)  

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

  • A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

  • A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

  • Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

  • Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

  • You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

 

 

 

13. Fear Roleplay (FRP)

  • Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life.

  • Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range.

• When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range.

• When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger.

• Driving a vehicle in an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover.

  • Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are in a car which engine is not stalled.

• When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked.

• When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you.

  • As a victim, whose life is in direct danger:

• You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker.

• You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you.

 

8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

  • Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.

  • Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay:

• Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason.

• Mercy Killing - Asking to be killed by a friend (Killing a friend falls under deathmatching).

• Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles.

• Spawning a scripted work vehicle and using it for crimes or submerging any vehicle in water.

• Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase.

  • Players who disconnect during roleplay must reconnect and inform other parties in order to resume roleplay. If you are unable to reconnect it may be excused after providing proof.

  • In a situation where a player gets away from an incident where they're being chased/pursued, they must wait 15 minutes before they can logout. Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through. 

  • Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do.

  • In a situation where a player’s game crashes or the player is kicked from the server, they should be allowed to have the same advantages as they have had before their leave.


How did the player break the rule(s)?

We were chasing people who were driving in the sandking because they painted their truck with our colors to impersonate us. Then as we follow the truck one of their guys starts shooting at ID 80.

In the second video he intentionally rams us with an expensive sportscar.

Sorry that its in two parts, clicked save after his first tule break.

Evidence of rule breach:

https://streamable.com/x9phe (DM)

https://streamable.com/8rolq (Non-RP Ram) + proof of ID 80's death

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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Daniel_Broski [ID #74]] - [ Notified IG ] - Why did you open fire on the individuals in the video? Why did you use an expensive car to get into a head on collision with the reporting party?

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
Brawnkoh

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Hi Brawnkoh,

I apologize ahead of the time, I don't play with shadowplay and don't have any recordings.

Thank you for tagging me in this report. I've received multiple complaints from my fellow crew members about West Coast Assassins robbing them multiple days in a row. Seems like for some reason we kept getting confused with the "russians". I spent most of the day in this video actually chasing them around the map and checking every drug lab. I was in a firefight with the individual in one of the vehicles in this video, i believe the entity that was also on scene, earlier the day across the Sandy Shores Hospital - he was with another individual and he had an AK, his friend died and my buddy died as well, I managed to escape. When I saw the 3 green vehicles chasing my crew members, we were communication on radio to ambush them in that area. I could only assume the reason they were following my crew members with three vehicles, and that reason couldn't possible be "just to talk". My personal vehicle actually was chopped just hours later by the WCA. There is an IC conflict going on currently between our group and them, this was a revenge ambush.

 

The vehicle I used to get into a head on collision with the reporting party was NOT mine. It was the sentinel of the member we just killed at the beginning of the video[ID 80]. Given that it's the opposing crews vehicle and relatively not that expensive, i did not consider it valuable.

 

Please keep me informed of your decision,

Thank you,

Daniel.

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17 minutes ago, sl0bby said:

Hi Brawnkoh,

I apologize ahead of the time, I don't play with shadowplay and don't have any recordings.

Thank you for tagging me in this report. I've received multiple complaints from my fellow crew members about West Coast Assassins robbing them multiple days in a row. Seems like for some reason we kept getting confused with the "russians". I spent most of the day in this video actually chasing them around the map and checking every drug lab. I was in a firefight with the individual in one of the vehicles in this video, i believe the entity that was also on scene, earlier the day across the Sandy Shores Hospital - he was with another individual and he had an AK, his friend died and my buddy died as well, I managed to escape. When I saw the 3 green vehicles chasing my crew members, we were communication on radio to ambush them in that area. I could only assume the reason they were following my crew members with three vehicles, and that reason couldn't possible be "just to talk". My personal vehicle actually was chopped just hours later by the WCA. There is an IC conflict going on currently between our group and them, this was a revenge ambush.

 

The vehicle I used to get into a head on collision with the reporting party was NOT mine. It was the sentinel of the member we just killed at the beginning of the video[ID 80].

 

Please keep me informed of your decision,

Thank you,

Daniel.

Hi! ID 80 here. 

First thing, just be cause we chopped your car an hour LATER, doesnt give you right to shoot earlier as you never knew about that making it completely irrelevant. 

Secondly, why do you think its relevant and acceptable to shoot at us because we robbed you multiple times in the past? and also why do you think its okay to shoot at us because “we were communication on radio to ambush them in that area”? 

Thirdly, If you have any evidence of you “chasing us around all day” then please go ahead and post it. You going to Drug Labs to check for us and supposedly chasing us all day does not give you RP rights to shoot and ram at us.

Lastly, Just because you were in someone elses expensive car, its still irrational to drive into another car as it could realistically kill you.

-Kolt Chambers 

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Well, I think given the fact that I have received constant reports that west coast assassins have been displaying acts of violence against us because you continuously confuse us with the russians gives me every right to shoot you on sight. Additionally, you were following the sandking with multiple members. You are the gang we were after, it is entirely realistic for us to open fire once a few of you are chasing us.

I only brought up my car being chopped because this isn't the first time it happened, it happened before to me and other crew members that told me about it IC, and I havent died so I remember it, therefore I can open fire. 

And dude, I don't mean to be rude but this is a Sentinel XS, a $45,500 car on HeavyFlow, I am not sure why you continue to call it expensive. It's not.

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Kill on sight is not allowed anymore, if the reports of us robbing and killing you were on that day then provide evidence. Other than that you had no right to shoot at us and you shouldnt have been pretty suiciding yourself with my car into the other person. Its not realistic regardless of how much it costs. 

Without any evidence then you’re pretty much stumped outta options🤷🏽‍♂️

Good Luck 😉 

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PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players:

  • [Daniel_Broski [ID #74]] - [DM] - [Offense #1] - [ @sl0bby ]

Daniel, as KoS is not a thing, RP must be initiated prior to engaging in a gun fight. I don't see sufficient evidence here that RP was actually engaged prior to the shooting. As far as the car goes, since it was not your vehicle you used to hit the reporting party with, I will give you the benefit of doubt here. 

In the future, please ensure you engage in RP prior to shooting. 

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 

Regards,

Brawnkoh

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