JakeInnit_ Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Player(s) being reported: ID 58 Date of interaction reported: 12/10/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1570876966 Your characters name: Elizabeth West (ID 30) Other player(s) involved: Angella McMahon (ID 81) Specific rule(s) broken: Quote 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. If they report you to the police for a serious crime. If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt. Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. How did the player break the rule(s)? At 0:15 he shot at me prior to making demands, then proceeds to make demands while I am in a vehicle with the engine on (Not under Fear RP) and shoots after I decide to not follow the demands. TLDR he shot me with no demands then provided invalid demands then shot at me again. Evidence of rule breach: https://streamable.com/zdn80 2 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emir Bellic Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, JakeInnit_ said: Player(s) being reported: ID 58 Date of interaction reported: 12/10/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1570876966 Your characters name: Elizabeth West (ID 30) Other player(s) involved: Angella McMahon (ID 81) Specific rule(s) broken: How did the player break the rule(s)? At 0:15 he shot at me prior to making demands, then proceeds to make demands while I am in a vehicle with the engine on (Not under Fear RP) and shoots after I decide to not follow the demands. TLDR he shot me with no demands then provided invalid demands then shot at me again. Evidence of rule breach: https://streamable.com/zdn80 Well you did had smg in your hand when you seen Artyom coming close to your car and he did said to you "on your knees" (maybe you didnt hear because of the microphone bug first) while you were not in the car so you did break fearRP by getting into the car and escaping.So i dont know whats the point of your report.Having SMG in your hand while someone shouting demands and you are not complying doesnt make you innocent. Edited October 12, 2019 by Emir Bellic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeInnit_ Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 As you can see my POV, no one placed me under fear RP and gave demands. Artyom was on his bike for the whole situation. The player gave demands while I was already in the animation to get in the car. 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeInnit_ Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Yeah its true I take a personal dislike to yourself and your faction for personal reasons. I made the decision to report you after the incident because I showed some of my friends the footage we agreed it was a breach of the deathmatching rule. I did not know you had deleted your own footage, that is your own fault as you should keep your footage for up to 48 hours. I will remind that if I believe you have broken rules I am free to report you, regardless of my personal opinion regarding you or your faction. You may also find that I do not take making reports lightly, I have made 3-4 forum reports over the year I have been apart of this community, so I certainly would not make one out of spite or dislike of you. I would also like to note I took the decision to make a report before the situation at the store but didn't get round to creating it until after the fight as I was engaged in RP with my gang members. This screenshot was taken 10-30 minutes prior to my death at the Zeta Store, it is from the Zeta faction discord. The reactions to your post are my opinion, I think that the feelschromosone was justified based upon the response the player gave, he clearly has a lack of understanding with regards to rules or gameplay. Edited October 12, 2019 by JakeInnit_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeInnit_ Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, SkuLLar said: did you see time 0:13? of voip popping up? while you had your smg our? and out of the car? without the animation? look closely just informing you In my POV at 0:13 I can't see anyone's ID glow green to suggest they're talking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeInnit_ Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 I'm waiting for response from staff, I don't believe I had enough time to respond to demands and I also don't believe I was under fear RP, this would make the demands invalid. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hello, this is id 58 from the footage, the first shot was a miss click, i was aiming and because of the adrenaline rushing through me i accidentally clicked it, to which i am sorry, you can see me immediately stop shooting after that, i did not shot at you when you started to get in the car, as it was an honest miss click, and i did not proceed to shoot at you, so its a confirmation that i indeed miss clicked, and didn't have malicious intent, when i started approaching you, i was aiming a gun and yelling in voip, your game because of the VOIP desync didnt pick it up, and you didnt see me coming from the left side, i was aiming and screaming, then you can hear me scream Knees knees and the animation got glitched a bit, i can assure you 100% i was yelling knees knees while approaching you, and it resynced back to you when i was already close to your car and you were getting inside, in addition to that, i was already aiming a gun at you when you were running out of the shop, and when you were GETTING IN the car, a gun was already aimed at you, you were not in a car then and so that indeed has put you there in a fear-rp situation, before you got in the car, and turned on the engine, after that you started driving away, i cant recall if i shot at the car or no, but im 99% sure that i did not shoot at your vehicle as i have a thumb rule of never shoot a vehicle as the person might report for DM. in addition to this i would like to add this, after this exact moment, we regrouped with our mafia, and planned an attack on the zetta store. in this attack you have died and exactly after the attack that you have died there and lost you have posted this report on me, personally i feel there is some OOC context to it, but i wont blame it because i cant know for 100% quote, "when i was in the middle of the animation of getting in the car" you just said you were in the middle of the animation, your character was not in the car yet, and i was already aiming a gun at you placing you under fear-rp, if the animation was completed and then for a fact you were in the car, and if only then i would have aimed? i wouldnt have placed you in a fear-rp situation but because i aimed while you were before the animation and in the middle of the animation i indeed placed you under fear-rp there as stated by the rules here When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger: • When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. at the time of the animation you was not in the car. kind regards if a staff member will need further explanation i will indeed explain. im currently in work, so sorry if it is written in a terrible fashion/design as soon as i get back home ill fix it it just so you have my point of view currently 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hello and thank you for making the report. Player ID 35 - Javnish_Karinki - @HamadAlAlawi - has 24 hours to explain why he shot at the reporter's vehicle. Sincerely, alexalex303 and Dqniel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamadAlAlawi Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Hello ID 35 here, I was outside the clothing store where i can see ID 58 going to a women wearing blue holding an smg which was planned as we wanted to rob them from the start, who i was sharing the frequency with on the radio knowing whats going on and visibly seeing id 58 pointing a gun at her, at this point i was aiming at her as well on her way to the car and when she started to get in the car, after i saw ID 58 shoot once (I know now that it was a miss click by him now) I immediately thought something happened between the two in result of a shot being fired. and when the vehicle started running off i don't remember exactly how many times i shot, but at the best of my capabilities i'd assume it was once or twice. This was an impulse decision as i saw a fellow gang member open fire at an enemy and reacted as if it was a shoot out or a failure to comply with fear RP in my point of view when it happened. This happening led to my decision to shoot at the vehicle If i had caused any harm to your experience in any way shape or form i am willing to redo the RP if needed, If there are any further questions regarding this situation feel free to tag me and ill be happy to explain it further. Sincerely, Hamadalalawi Edited October 12, 2019 by HamadAlAlawi 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 And I want to add if i ruined your rp in any way shape or from, i sincerely want to redo this scenario, and do it the right way . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dqniel Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Hello, and thank you to everyone who responded with their side of the story and explained the reasoning for their actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. After careful deliberation we have decided on the following outcome. Player Igor_Petrovich will receive a strong verbal warning. First and foremost, we would like to address the punishment of player Igor_Petrovich and the reasoning behind it. After careful review, we have decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and the only reason this is not a formal punishment is because we chose to believe that you missclicked when you were unable to provide any evidence of the reporting party being under FearRP. In the future, you should know that it's your duty to inform them right then and there that you missclicked and should a similar incident happen again, you will surely receive a punishment. Player Javnish_Karinki will receive a deathmatch punishment. Secondly, we would like to address the punishment of player Javnish_Karinki and the reasoning behind it. It is not under any circumstances acceptable to shoot at players simply because other people are shooting at them. You must have established your own valid reason(s) to shoot at a player, at all times. Sincerely, alexalex303 and Dqniel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
