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ID 71 - Deathmatching

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Player(s) being reported: ID 71
Date of interaction reported: 10/10/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1570722363

Your characters name: Hector Martinez

Other player(s) involved: Name(s) : ID 10, ID 79, ID 11 (Pacho Martinez), ID 106, ID 37, ID 83

Specific rule(s) broken:
 

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

  • A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

  • A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

  • Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

  • Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

  • You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.


How did the player break the rule(s)?

I got out my car and was told to put my hands up. I co-mplied with the demands yet i was shot by ID 71 for no reason...

Evidence of rule breach:

Edit: I notified the player in game.

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Edited by MikeyyyG
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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Jessy_White [ID #71]] - [Notified IG] - Why did you attack an individual who was complying with demands?

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
Brawnkoh

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Hello,

In your perspective, as I saw the evidence I admit it's Deathmatching and I should face the consequences for that, But

In my perspective I didn't see it like you described "I got out my car and was told to put my hands up. I co-mplied with the demands yet i was shot by ID 71"

before you showed up, there was a big shootout seconds before you decided to show up, after couple of seconds you came in your own will along with your friend responding to the backup call that you recived,

when I saw you exiting your car, I saw your character doing some animation and I was far away from you when you did that, I thought you were either withdrawing your gun

or attempting to unlock your car and get away, as I said I was far away and I didn't hear anyone saying "handsup" so I shot couple bullets.

I just don't get it, you just came to a shootout location where your friends died to just put your handsup and didnt expect to get shot at, that's makes nosense.

 

I was fully honest with my reply and I don't belive that I broke any rules atleast from my perspective.

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2 minutes ago, JassemBenRayana said:

Hello,

In your perspective, as I saw the evidence I admit it's Deathmatching and I should face the consequences for that, But

In my perspective I didn't see it like you described "I got out my car and was told to put my hands up. I co-mplied with the demands yet i was shot by ID 71"

before you showed up, there was a big shootout seconds before you decided to show up, after couple of seconds you came in your own will along with your friend responding to the backup call that you recived,

when I saw you exiting your car, I saw your character doing some animation and I was far away from you when you did that, I thought you were either withdrawing your gun

or attempting to unlock your car and get away, as I said I was far away and I didn't hear anyone saying "handsup" so I shot couple bullets.

I just don't get it, you just came to a shootout location where your friends died to just put your handsup and didnt expect to get shot at, that's makes nosense.

 

I was fully honest with my reply and I don't belive that I broke any rules atleast from my perspective.

Do you have any video evidence from the prior shootout by any chance? I'd be interested in taking a look at it.

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PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players:

  • [Jessy_White [ID #71]] - [Deathmatch] - [Offense #2] 

Just to give you some context into my decision. You were too far away to hear any VOIP, and the individuals who were in direct RP with the reporting party failed to shoot this individual. To me, I believe this was due to him having his hands up. He did not hop out of the vehicle with a gun in his hand, or perform any threatening actions. I will admit, I'm not a fan of him locking and unlocking his car, and the video you've shown has little context. However, he was shot after this action was complete and his hands were up. As per our rules:

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.


In this instance I'm sure the individual in question was bait as he had no reason to be there. However, that still does not give you free reign to open fire on him as he is the first one shot. I don't see the individual in question commit any of those acts in this video. As such, I will be ruling it DM.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 

Regards,

Brawnkoh

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