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ID 116(DM), ID181 (DM)

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Player(s) being reported: ID 116(DM) (OOC insult), ID181 (DM)
Date of interaction reported: 10/5/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 15703000727

Your characters name: Scarlet Manson ID32

Other player(s) involved: ID 227 (did nothing)

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

  • A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

  • A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

  • Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

  • Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

  • You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

 

 

 

13. Fear Roleplay (FRP)

  • Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life.

  • Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range.

• When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range.

• When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger.

• Driving a vehicle in an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover.

  • Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are in a car which engine is not stalled.

• When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked.

• When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you.

  • As a victim, whose life is in direct danger:

• You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker.

• You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you.


How did the player break the rule(s)?

I was in my car, engine was on. So they decide to give demands to me while i'm not under the Fear RP rule, when I flee they start shooting at me. 

I'm not sure which one of the two men started shooting at me, might be both or from the amount of OOC insults I received I guess its ID116.

Evidence of rule breach:

https://streamable.com/d0a6w (DM)

https://imgur.com/a/MgGCTyX (OOC insults)

 

Edited by NM369

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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • Deshawn_Adams [ID#116] @Jawn 
  • Conner_Tecca [ID#181] @Vez

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
MrSilky

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I mean I don’t understand how this is dm. First off we have 2 guns at his head he should have left immediately. He waited like 5 seconds in the car then left. 

Edited by Jawn
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Vez here in my defense he straight up told us he was looking for people to rob and he wouldn’t stop following us after we told him to quit he followed us for 2 to 3 minute before this incident occurred, he had more then enough time to back up right away once a gun was pulled he shouldn’t be allowed to wait that long after we already have 2 guns to head just because his car is running, I pulled out my gun 3-4 seconds before he was told to get out of the car he could’ve been long gone. If this falls under death match then the server rules need to be changed because he’s at a complete stop waited 3 whole seconds with 2 guns at his head then is allowed to take off not even driving forward backward which is much slower.

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alright basically we were driving this guy kept following us we told him to stop following us he kept after us everytime we tried to get close to talk he would kinda drive away so we couldnt talk we were trying to rob the store next to the location where the event happened, so we went to see what he wanted, he then basically told us he was looking for people to rob (aka us since he was following us) we so "so you are trying to rob us" which he never denied so J responded again and said "so you are trying to rob people" he then said "uhu" it was clear to us at the time he was trying to wait to rob us since he had been following up and down the road as we were looking for a store to rob so we then thought fast and tried to get him out of the car in a split second reaction. he then sat there with 2 guns at his head for at least 3 seconds before running he definitely   should've took off sooner then he did. IN our defense at the time it was clear he was trying to set us up to be robbed at the time. by the way the whole time we talked to him all he said was he was trying to rob people after he had just got done following us for 2 minutes and we were confronting him about it. sure shooting at him was wrong it was a split second decisions with the information we knew at the time it seemed like he was trying to rob us. we shouldn't have shot but we tried to hit his car instead of him if it makes it any better. 

Edited by Vezhi
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  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

 

I was looking for people to street race with so i followed you guys for a while, then made a joke about looking for people to rob. Like in the video no demands were made, you had no reason to shoot.

Thank you for admitting to the DM.

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PLAYER REPORT PART-ACCEPTED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players:

  • Deshawn_Adams [ID#116] - You will receive a note on your record that you have been spoken to about DM. You need to be mindful about when it is appropriate to shoot, the rules are currently being reworked so situations like this will have deeper understanding. I am not comfortable with issuing a full DM punishment here as the reporting party did not lose anything and got away unharmed after following the reported individuals claiming that she was "looking for people to rob" and you have a clean combat related admin record. You will also receive a warning for OOC insults, please refrain from insulting fellow community members regardless of how much you may disagree with them ICly or OOCly.
  • Conner_Tecca [ID#181] - You will receive a note on your record that you have been spoken to about DM. You need to be mindful about when it is appropriate to shoot, the rules are currently being reworked so situations like this will have deeper understanding. I am not comfortable with issuing a full DM punishment here as the reporting party did not lose anything and got away unharmed after following the reported individuals claiming that she was "looking for people to rob" and you have a clean combat related admin record.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 

Regards,

MrSilky

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