Neophite Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Player(s) being reported: (Unknown ID was 132) Date of interaction reported: 09/29/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1569782982 (not 100% certain took it from the low quality video I have) Your characters name: Tony Baboni Other player(s) involved: (Unknown) Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt. Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. How did the player break the rule(s)? He hit me with his car then right when I had gotten up from it he pulled his gun on me and told me to put my hands up. I have had no interaction with this player before this, I have never heard of or seen him he's never robbed me prior to this situation. Evidence of rule breach: This is the only clip I have of it and all of the items in my inventory were taking then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuSoHelpful Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours: Harvey_Walton [ID #132] - @Trall If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, YuSoHelpful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Hey it is ID 132, I would like to apologise for hitting him with the car. It was not my intention and it was to instead block him but he kept running forward and ended up colliding at the same time. It was a mistake and Im pretty sure I did OOC'ly mention it shortly after that it was not my intention to hit him. The reason I robbed him was an IC gang war where both organisations are currently systematically hunting each other. I do apologise for hitting him and I will try see If I have footage from my perspective as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 The outcome would of not changed if i accidentally hit him or not. At the end of the day it was an honest mistake and my intention was to simply block him however, he was faster then I anticipated and was greeted by the front of my vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Also I'd like to say that in this report It was deemed okay to hit someone to stop them from running. However, it was still an accident on my behalf. The admin in that report says it is fine as it was only once. And I only accidentally hit him once. Therefore there is no breach in any rules whatsoever! Edited September 30, 2019 by Trall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophite Posted September 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, Trall said: The outcome would of not changed if i accidentally hit him or not. At the end of the day it was an honest mistake and my intention was to simply block him however, he was faster then I anticipated and was greeted by the front of my vehicle. When using your vehicle to stop me from doing any actions in response to you getting out of your car with a weapon does not make it okay to VDM, I was walking on a side walk and you hit me making me basically stunned for a couple seconds as you had full advantage from it. Because you then robbed me after doesn't make this any better and makes you look more suspicious to the VDM. I would say regardless of it being a accident this was VDM even though from my POV it looks pretty intentional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Thats why I was trying to find my footage but it turns out It was recording my desktop. Typical OBS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Anyways check the report i linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamz Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) - Just a friend of Neo's (cough cough like to point out) Difference from that report and this one is that video contains two individuals who gave each other demands in which you didn't in this circumstance. You ran him over before giving demands and also proceeded to then rob him on top of your VDM. They both chased someone down who stole another persons vehicle "in retaliation of his action" where is his previous action in this case? Nothing, just you running him over without said demands or retaliation. Good luck with both of you on this issue. Sorry if I wasn't supposed to comment here, simply pointing out the big difference between the two as he's comparing two completely different scenarios as his evidence to it being okay he vdm'd. Edited October 1, 2019 by Dreamz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Dreamz said: - Just a friend of Neo's (cough cough like to point out) Difference from that report and this one is that video contains two individuals who gave each other demands in which you didn't in this circumstance. You ran him over before giving demands and also proceeded to then rob him on top of your VDM. They both chased someone down who stole another persons vehicle "in retaliation of his action" where is his previous action in this case? Nothing, just you running him over without said demands or retaliation. Good luck with both of you on this issue. Would like to point out as much as you typing here is nice you’re not allowed too. I did this before and received a forum warning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuSoHelpful Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for your patience while this report was under review. After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players: Harvey_Walton [ID #132] - @Trall - (V)DM - Offense #1 - If you rammed him by accident, you shouldn't have used this for an IC robbery. If you rammed him on purpose, it would be clear VDM. Either way, you used the VDM to your advantage by robbing him ICly, therefore I will be issuing you a VDM punishment. I've asked other staff members for their opinion and we came to the same conclusion. If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. Regards, Moderator YuSoHelpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
