Non-RP, ID236 Shayan Daniels

[cheatonus]

Player(s) being reported: ID 236/Shayan Daniels
Date of interaction reported: 24/09/2018
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1569356384

Your characters name: Bobby Forsyth

Other player(s) involved: Joseph Aziz, Tyrone Shakur, Jed Bundy, others...

Specific rule(s) broken:

8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.

• Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay:

• Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason.

• Mercy Killing - Asking to be killed by a friend (Killing a friend falls under deathmatching).

• Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles.

• Spawning a scripted work vehicle and using it for crimes or submerging any vehicle in water.

• Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase.

• Players who disconnect during roleplay must reconnect and inform other parties in order to resume roleplay. If you are unable to reconnect it may be excused after providing proof.

• In a situation where a player gets away from an incident where they're being chased/pursued, they must wait 15 minutes before they can logout. Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through. 

• Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do.

• In a situation where a player’s game crashes or the player is kicked from the server, they should be allowed to have the same advantages as they have had before their leave.

 

Description of incident:  The player was asked at gunpoint to leave the premises. His immediate response since he was in a running vehicle and not required to fearRP was to say "fuck you" to the man holding the SMG at his face.  He did this several times and refused to the leave the premises. Attached is evidence of a full three minutes of the man sitting in his truck with the engine running with multiple guns pointed at him refusing to leave.  After he finally left he returned a few minutes later and the cycle began again.  I have footage of the entire incident, including at one point someone kicking the truck, which stalled the vehicle, but we did not attack him.  On a side note I think this perfectly demonstrates the inadequacy of the black and white, can't fire on a running vehicle rule.  

Evidence:

https://streamable.com/21eim 1 minute

https://streamable.com/nvrur The following 2 minutes. 

 

Edited September 24, 2019 by cheatonus

[Psychoneurotic]

Good evening,

 

the same gang who imports heavy weapons and thinks it's realistic for street racers to go around in heavy weapons, the same gang who DMs you because they feel like it, ( video below), is claiming that having narcolepsy is non RP. It is not against the rules to have a sleeping condition, but it's also not against the rules to make false reports. In my opinion, it's fine to play dress up and pretend to be orange street racers that carries heavy weapons everywhere and clashes with the police, but that itself is not very "RP" though, is it? If the RP is so heavy that my actions are considered non RP, then street racers carrying heavy guns everywhere, especially in their own gas station, should also be considered non RP. Driving up a mountain with anything other than a mountain bike should also be considered non RP. By all means, if I am mistaken and this is in fact an extremely heavy RP and realistic server now, then I'll gladly take the punishment, but NBDY himself said that he personally doesn't want this server to be that heavy RP and people should just relax and have fun, whilst finding the balance between RP and fun.

I have nothing else to add, kids like @cheatonus who don't have a job or a hobby outside of this game want to waste their times on the forums. Unfortunately I don't have that kind of spare time.

 

[edit]: it's been brought up to my attention that breaking FearRP is essentially considered a non RP punishment. In the rules, it clearly states that you don't have to be fearful for your life if your engine is still running. What is being said here by the reporting party, is that instead of getting a FearRP punishment, if you have guns pointed at you when you're in a car, you have to leave your vehicle otherwise you'll get a non RP punishment. 

 

Edited September 24, 2019 by Psychoneurotic
Fixed a typo, added info

[alexalex303]

Hello and thank you for making the report @cheatonus.

After careful deliberation, we have decided that,

Player ID 236, Shayan_Daniels, @Psychoneurotic will be issued NonRP #3 for the actions exhibited in this roleplay scenario. I do not think that anyone would consider it realistic for you to be having a conversation and/or insulting a party that is aiming an automatic at your stopped vehicle, just because your engine is on. It will serve you very well in the future to remember that the rules are in place to guide people towards a realistic roleplaying scenario, and set realistic boundaries. They are not to be used to prop up unrealistic behavior.

We came very close to acting on Fear Roleplay as well, but decided against it as NonRP covers it, however should yourself or other players exhibit such carelessness when firearms are pointed at you at close range, regardless of engine status, more strict punishment will be handed out. 

Sincerely,

alexalex303 and @Rodiz