ID 13 (VDM & Attacking New Player) ID 81(Stealing from New Player)

[Jaynus Brown]

Player(s) being reported: ID 13,ID 81
Date of interaction reported: 20/9/2019 GMT +8
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1568989045
Your characters name: Jaynus Brown

Other player(s) involved: ID 150 Also was another VDM victim who attempted to help me.

Specific rule(s) broken:

 

 

11. No Crime Zones (NCZ)

• A no crime zone is an area where players may not commit any actions considered crimes.

• Players must not disobey orders of law enforcement officers but are allowed to flee.

• The /NCZ command and HUD notification are indicators of being in a protected area although it is up to administrator discretion if your actions are in violation of NCZ rules.

• If a player uses the NCZ for protection the attacker must wait for that player to leave the area.

• Players may not go to a NCZ after engaging in criminal activity resulting in an ongoing chase.

• NO CRIME ZONES: 

• “Tequil La La” club, “Yellow Jack Inn” bar, and the block around them.

• All government offices, law enforcement offices, hospitals, banks, and the blocks around them.

• Los Santos Airport, Bus Depot, Department of Motor Vehicles, and the block around them.

 

14. Deathmatch (DM)

• Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

• Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

• A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

• A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

• If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

• Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

• Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

• Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

  1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

  2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

  3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

• You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

 

 

 

15. Player Theft, Prison Breakout, and Kidnapping

• Players cannot force their victims to withdraw money from an ATM, sell property, or sell vehicles.

• Players cannot force their victims to hand over assets that are not present in the area.

• Players cannot steal from players with “NEW PLAYER” above their head unless it is in retaliation. 

• Players with the (( NEW PLAYER )) tag that deliberately insert themselves into or start active crime scenes lose their new player protection during those illegal activities.

• Players may not steal from their faction treasury as the F4 menu is OOC.

• Permission for prison break must be approved by a Moderator+ prior to the attempt.

• Players may participate in no more than 1 prison break attempt within 1 OOC week.

• Official Factions may attempt 2 additional breaks in the case the prisoner is the faction leader.

• Players are allowed to kidnap or to take other players hostage for these specific reasons:

• You have to have a roleplay reason to kill the victim in accordance with the a, b, and c points under DM section.

• If you attempt to commit robbery of a property, you are allowed to hold the players within that property until you have finished the robbery. An NPC is not a valid hostage.

• If a hostage situation involves police in any way all of players involved in holding the hostage may not take another hostage for 1 OOC week.

 

Evidence of rule breach:

ID 13 and ID 81 were in the same car when ID 13 ran me over and you can hear he did it on purpose as he picked up speed. He clearly saw I was on the road. We can see he turned around to hit either ID 150's car door or ID 150 himself but instead hit me.There was no attempt at stopping the car after hitting me.He then came around to hit ID 150 for a second time as the first attempt failed. You can see the car purposely turning into the wrong lane to hit ID 150 and picking up speed. ID 81 who is in ID 13's car and I would assume know each other then came to steal my crate when I was on the ground and it is clearly mine as I was sitting on it and saying loudly it was mine.All this was done in the area of Los Santos Bank which is supposed to be an NCZ so no vehicle deathmatching for any roleplay reasons and no stealing. No attempt at roleplay was done to explain the vehicle hit and no roleplay was done when stealing my crate. Also both of us were new players. I do not know ID 150 as I happened to meet him and the person who you can hear in the background is not ingame, I was talking to him via discord and he had nothing to do with the situation.

Evidence of rule breach:

https://youtu.be/Yd1j2kd1q3E?t=40 - ID 13 and ID 81 in the same car. ID 13 can be seen trying to hit ID 150 as he climbed into his car but then failed and instead ran me over.

https://youtu.be/h-0h4q_nL9E?t=123 -Purposely steered into the path of ID 150 to hit him for the second time so vdm and no roleplay whatsoever.

https://youtu.be/MU0K8-p3jko - ID 81 stealing my crate despite multiple attempts telling him its mine and can be seen putting it into the trunk of the Benefactor that ran me over.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2019 by Jaynus Brown

[Dqniel]

Hello, and thank you for making this player report! @Jaynus Brown

First and foremost, player Pedro_Lopez | ID 13 will receive 24 hours to provide his side of the story and explain the reasoning for his actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. Why did you utilize your vehicle to run over the reporting party all for seemingly no valid reason while in a No Crime Zone? Furthermore, why did you after hitting the reporting party circle back around and hit the new player (ID 150) who was accompanying the reporting party all for seemingly no valid reason while in a No Crime Zone? As the reported party does not have a forum account, he will be notified of this report in-game. 

Secondly, player Korab_Bagadovic | ID 81 will receive 24 hours to provide his side of the story and explain the reasoning for his actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. Why did you steal the item of the reporting party while in a No Crime Zone before ultimately returning to Pedro_Lopez who was waiting for you outside the bank. As the reported party does not have a forum account, he will be notified of this report in-game. 

Thirdly, can the reporting party @Jaynus Brown please explain what is said and discussed in a foreign language in the provided evidence of this report? Is it related to the game itself or any active in-game situation?

I look forward to the replies of both players! 

Kind regards,

Dqniel.

[Jaynus Brown]

As I mentioned in my initial report, the guy I was talking to via discord and the language spoken had nothing to do with the situation so he was not involved at all in the game or nor any active ingame situation

[Korab_Bagadovic]

22 hours ago, Dqniel said:

Hello, and thank you for making this player report! @Jaynus Brown

First and foremost, player Pedro_Lopez | ID 13 will receive 24 hours to provide his side of the story and explain the reasoning for his actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. Why did you utilize your vehicle to run over the reporting party all for seemingly no valid reason while in a No Crime Zone? Furthermore, why did you after hitting the reporting party circle back around and hit the new player (ID 150) who was accompanying the reporting party all for seemingly no valid reason while in a No Crime Zone? As the reported party does not have a forum account, he will be notified of this report in-game. 

Secondly, player Korab_Bagadovic | ID 81 will receive 24 hours to provide his side of the story and explain the reasoning for his actions which can be seen in the provided evidence above. Why did you steal the item of the reporting party while in a No Crime Zone before ultimately returning to Pedro_Lopez who was waiting for you outside the bank. As the reported party does not have a forum account, he will be notified of this report in-game. 

Thirdly, can the reporting party @Jaynus Brown please explain what is said and discussed in a foreign language in the provided evidence of this report? Is it related to the game itself or any active in-game situation?

I look forward to the replies of both players! 

Kind regards,

Dqniel.

Hi thanks for the report, there's nothing to explain, I'm a new player and I forgot all about the NCZ rule, on of the admins already issued me a punishment of redoing the quiz, but, yeah, all I can say is that. I'm willing to compensate for all the lost items in order for the reporting party to void the report on me, so it doesn't ruin my record.

[Dqniel]

Hello and thank you for remaining patient! As more than enough time has passed for the reported party to respond with their side of the story and explain the reasoning for their actions, i have decided to conclude this report based on the provided evidence and statement given to me by the reporting party.

Player Pedro_Lopez will receive a Deathmatch punishment | Offense #2.

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that you utilize a vehicle to run over the reporting party before ultimately driving away. In connection to the reporting party being run over, this is noticed by a new player who immediately assists the reporting party by providing medical assistance and calling the emergency service(s). You take this opportunity to then circle back around the block, and utilize your vehicle to once more hit the reporting party but also the new player assisting him. The issue that arises with this situation is that your actions are not in accordance with our Deathmatch rules. As much as i would like to give all players of this community the benefit of the doubt during these types of situations, this does not look accidental. Extensive review of the provided evidence above shows you purposefully swerving in to hit both players all for seemingly no valid reason other than what i presume is to rob and loot them of all their items. It can even be seen in the provided evidence that you drive back and forth from the injured body of the reporting party, indicating that you acknowledged hitting him and knowingly provided no explanation for doing so, either through in character means or out of character means. Looking at the situation and it being an accident is not plausible, as i find it incredibly far fetched that you happened to “accidentally” run over two players, on two separate occasions, at the very same spot. Taking into consideration that you have not even responded to this report or even acknowledged it for that matter in combination with the fact that there has been no evidence provided to suggest that you running over the reporting party and the new player was an accident, i am led to believe that your actions were done with purposeful and malicious intent. With that being said, you are utilizing your vehicle to attack both players with no roleplay engagement and no valid reason having been established prior, and as such you are in violation of our Deathmatch rules. Your actions during this situation falls under extremely poor roleplay and it is inexcusable and certainly not welcomed on the server. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated should you decide to appeal this permanent ban.

Player Pedo_Lopez will receive a Non-Roleplay punishment for breaching the No Crime Zone Rules | Offense #4.

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that you unlawfully run over two players all while being situated in a No Crime Zone. By attacking the both players you are commiting a crime all while being situated in a No Crime Zone. As the name suggests and as is outlined in the rulebook, no actions that even come close to being classified as a crime may be done while you are in a No Crime Zone and therefore you are in violation of the rules. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated.

Player Korab_Bagadovic will receive a Non-Roleplay punishment for breaching the Player Theft Rules | Offense #1.

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that you approach the reporting party and steal the crate belonging to him. The issue that arises with this situation is that you are in violation of our player theft rules. As outlined in the Player Theft rules, a player with the “New Player” tag above their character may not be robbed unless it is in retaliation OR they deliberately insert themselves and or start active crime scenes, and as this was not the case the conscious actions of yourself are in violation of our player theft rules. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated.

Player Korab_Bagadovic will receive a Non-Roleplay punishment for breaching the No Crime Zone rules | Offense #2.

In the provided evidence of this report, it can be seen that shortly after the reporting party was run over and placed in an injured state, you approach him and steal his crate. By stealing his items while being situated in a No Crime Zone you are in violation of the rules. As the name suggests and as is outlined in the rulebook, no actions that even come close to being classified as a crime may be done while you are in a No Crime Zone and therefore you are in violation of the rules. Please take this punishment as an opportunity to reflect on your actions, and make sure that moving forward you do so in a way where this is not repeated

I also want to make something incredibly clear. During this entire situation you were accompanying Pedro_Lopez - this can be seen when he first ran over the reporting party and it can also be seen when you steal the crate of the reporting party before returning back to meet Pedro_Lopez who was waiting for you. This tells me that both yourself and Pedro_Lopez came to some form of understanding or agreement to run over both players in what is presumably an attempt to loot them of all their items and this makes you just as guilty of Deathmatch as Pedro_Lopez. The only reason you are not receiving a deathmatch punishment is because i am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that the recent kick back to the quiz made you reflect on your actions, read up on the rules and actually acknowledge that what you did during this situation is not acceptable in a million years on this community. 

Thank you for making this player report! @Jaynus Brown

Report is accepted and archived.

Kind regards,

Dqniel.