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ID 98, ID 105, ID 3 - OOC Insult/PG/Non-RP

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Player(s) being reported: ID 98, ID 105, ID 3
Date of interaction reported: 20/09/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1568992446

Your characters name: Lucky Monroe

Other player(s) involved: Bobby Monroe

Specific rule(s) broken:

 

4. Harassment and Knowledge of Rule Breaches

  • It is prohibited to leak personal information of another person or to make such threats. 

  • It is prohibited to intimidate players from playing on the server or to continuously harass them in the game for OOC reasons to purposely make their game experience poor.

  • Players must report cases of ban evasion, falsified forum reports, discussion of or jokes about cyber-attacks and other rule breaches. An attempt to hide such information is punishable.

 

8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

  • Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.

  • Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay:

• Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason.

• Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles.

 

10. Powergaming (PG)

  • Forceful roleplay that does not give the other player a chance to roleplay their own response is considered powergaming. Other players must be given a chance to roleplay outcomes of actions.

  • Roleplay of unrealistic actions like super strength is another form of powergaming.


How did the player break the rule(s)?

All this happen under one role-play situation so I'm reporting them all under one for different rules that were broken. I try to avoid reporting players and instead try to help them perfect a role-play experience for us all. But, this was just dreadful and there was no opportunity to make things better therefore I am bringing this here as an official report. 

ID 3:

We spotted ID 3 cuffed at Los Santos Bank and began to chase him. After we had got a taser off on him, I was role-playing to cuff the man because on my screen his hands wasn't behind his back. Whilst doing so, he began to flee. So he began to flee, seconds after being tasered. Then we tasered him again. Then he decided to flee, AGAIN, after 2 tasers already! ID 3 then decided to role-play pushing me when trying to drag him but i gave him a chance, through dice. He lost the dice and I dragged him to the cruiser. (https://streamable.com/qiyr2)

When Bobby ran checks on the suspect, we found out that he had felony evading charges on him. So we read him his rights and so on and tried to place him in the cruiser. Whilst doing so, I RP'd helping the man into the cruiser and Bobby also RP'd doing so, resulting in 2 Officers holding him and putting him in the cruiser. He was also cuffed, and he previously was tasered 2-3 times already. He RP'd trying to escape, AGAIN. I responded with it being an unsuccessful attempt and told him why but he just said that was Powergaming and requested a Dice. Now a dice is optional, we gave him enough chances already. ID 3 is someone that does not want to role-play and he always wants to win, I will explain why I say this with confidence. 

I was still wondering how this guy got to LSB, stood on the teleport spot like many others after a server restart, whilst cuffed, with no friends around him and has felony evading charges on him. After this whole situation, I asked the person who placed the charges how he got away because he definitely did something OOC as IC he "vanished" and this was his response. (http://prntscr.com/p8sqfp) So, ID 3 used a server restart feature to escape a transport and then flee from us again. What sort of role-play is this. 

ID 98

ID 98 wasn't even part of the initial role-play we had with ID 3. As Bobby went to get the cruiser, he noticed people just opening all the doors, the bonnet and the trunk. In an NCZ. But the worst part was, ID 98 kicking and punching the cruiser. (https://streamable.com/9c9k9) When I took the suspect to the cruiser, me and bobby both told ID 98 that he can't hit the cruiser in a NCZ but he claimed it was because I was "illegally parked". So, first of all illegally parking in a NCZ isn't a crime, it does not break NCZ rules otherwise we wouldn't issue tickets, we would be filing tons and tons of reports on the forums. 

He continued to spam OOC with reasons why he did it and we even told him it may of jammed the bonnet now. This affected our role-play because everyone at the scene assumed we were driving with our bonnet up, when in fact damaging the vehicle in an NCZ is an OOC matter. I told Bobby to do a /report so we can staff down to help with what was going on because the OOC talk was crazy. In response to this, ID 98 just called us faggots for doing so. (http://prntscr.com/p8sxfi

 

ID 105

As for ID 105, he was another friend of the suspect and clearly wanted the person to escape. However, during the whole situation, he decided to hit his bike into the cruiser, not once, but twice. (https://streamable.com/bsuc1 @ the start) Now, the first time we can say he desynced or the bike spun out. But he reversed and just continued straight into the cruiser again. Not only damaging his expensive bike, but trying to get a reaction from the officers AND ramming in a NCZ. His reason for this was "he was trying to park but our cruiser was facing the wrong way". This makes no sense to me and seems like he's just trying to take the piss out of our parking, which is an IC matter. Still no reason to hit our cruiser with his bike. 

Also, when we were role-playing with ID 3 in terms of getting him to the cruiser ID 105 decided to butt in by saying "dragging is ooc if its not needed in the situation". How is this OOC if i've RP'd dragging the man? Another thing he said was "you haven't both RP'd grabbing him". Me and Bobby clearly RP'd properly that we are assisting the man into the cruiser hence holding him but he just continued to spam OOC with his opinions affecting our role-play. At this point we was just fed up with the amount of harassment we was getting during this situation OOCly and I was literally wishing a staff would respond to the report we had out. (https://streamable.com/bsuc1 @ middle to end)


Evidence of rule breach:

Seperate links to evidence but easier to view above.

https://streamable.com/qiyr2

https://streamable.com/bsuc1

http://prntscr.com/p8sxf

https://streamable.com/9c9k9

http://prntscr.com/p8sqfp

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I was the one who pursued ID 3 the day before. He tried to powergame (and we adapted), he insulted our faction and the server (but we got over it) and then he said he had to go and asked to be jailed using /prison (after a pursuit and right after resisting arrest). He then disconnected and we never heard of him again. I was hoping for a combatlog report but nobody posted one.
In the video you can hear him saying that he was ziptied and I really hope he did not lie in /do about it because that would be one more rule he broke.

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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • Biggie_Shmoke [ID #3] - @Alex Shmoke
     
  • Polly_Anderson [ID #98] - [Player will be notified in-game]
     
  • Louie_Chung [ID #105] - @x2Andrew

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
Moderator YuSoHelpful

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I am ID 105 in this report. I did not know this man but noticed the cops were harrasing him and was helping a fellow citizen try to escape from the power hungry cops. As you can see my tires are popped and i was RPing as you can see me react when i hit your car.  As for me using OOC i asked you multiple times to stop using /b and continue rollplay as everyone else was doing. Also driving the blvd with your hood up is deffinately NON-RP.

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As you said i roleplay trying to get away from you, once you said there wasnt anyway around to escape i followed ur rp till the end ( as a mad citezen) but all roleplayed isnt that @MohammedAli?
and i still end up getting arrested, and i wasnt trying to break any rules at all.

And ingame you said you werent going to report me and now i came to forums suprised that ive got a forum complaint on me, and i dont think that ive done anything wrong sir.

Hope we can talk this out, sorry for the bothering.


Cheers Biggie.

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PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players:

  • Biggie_Shmoke [ID #3] @Alex Shmoke  - Non-RP - Offense #6 - Combat logging,  you told the officers the following before you logged out on the 19th of September.
    /b guys im realy sorry i have to go can u skip rp and arrest me? ill be afk
    /b just take me in i realy have to go im not gonna log
    8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)
    Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through.
    You then logged back in on the 20th of September, not making any attempt to resume RP or contact any admin/PD about your situation. You basically just decided to free yourself and use the fact you logged out to your own benefit.

    Also, you have been tasered three times. Now in real-life, do you think you'd be able to run away after being tasered for that amount? In my opinion and other staff members, this promotes very poor roleplay quality. Also your continuous usage of /b, claiming cops always PG and constantly arguing with them about their RP should stop. If you feel they're breaking server rules, use the /report function. You will also be receiving a warning on your admin logs regarding usage of OOC chat.

     
  • Biggie_Shmoke [ID #3] @Alex Shmoke - Non-RP - Offense #7 - Ignoring roleplay.
    8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)
    You have ignored the roleplay from the reporting party multiple times, trying to do your own RP and not giving them any response. 
    Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do.


     
  • Polly_Anderson [ID #98] - Non-RP - Offense #3 - Breach of NCZ.
    You commited a crime by kicking the police vehicle with the No Crime Zone. This could also could be considered as VDM. I will however issue you a Non-RP punishment for this offense. 

    11. No Crime Zones (NCZ)
  • A no crime zone is an area where players may not commit any actions considered crimes.
     

  • Polly_Anderson [ID #98] - Non-RP - Offense #4 - OOC insults.
    Players must not threaten other players or use offensive language in OOC chat or OOC context.
    You are required to stay respectful to all community members, at all times. Regardless of what is happening. We do not tolerate such toxicity. Please refrain from being toxic and insulting other people through OOC chat. Being offensive IC is allowed to a certain degree.


     
  • Louie_Chung [ID #105] @x2Andrew - Will receive no punishment at this time.
    I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding the cruiser being parked the wrong way. However your continuous involvement with their roleplay using OOC chat is on the verge of becoming OOC harassment. You have no need to be there, if you feel rules are being broken you use the /report function.
    Please refrain from showing this behavior again. You will receive a warning on your admin logs regarding your OOC behavior.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 

Regards,

Moderator YuSoHelpful

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