x2Andrew Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Player(s) being reported: ID 41 Date of interaction reported: 9/20/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: http://prntscr.com/p8nlmj Your characters name: Louie Chung Other player(s) involved: Leonardo Possum Specific rule(s) broken: Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Sexual, torture, or extremely gross roleplay is allowed only if all involved parties (participants and witnesses) have agreed to it in OOC text chat, prior to the actual roleplay being performed. How did the player break the rule(s)? Had an IC situation with ID 41 and had it solved with a police officer. Was going down the road when i called for Leo to come to the ammo shop and ID 41 came from the bank and rammed me off my bike. He then drove back up to the bank, parked his car and decided to start sexual RP which i told him in OOC i do not consent but he continued. Evidence of rule breach: http://prntscr.com/p8nrzm Edited September 20, 2019 by x2Andrew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuSoHelpful Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours: Abo_Abdo [ID #41] - @zatefeto If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Moderator YuSoHelpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 long story short :- his video shows a car accident not a vdm case. pissing and jerking off was done /me does action infront of him. i have done an 8 minute video showing the whole story while me in the background commentating and explaining how things happened if you want that instead of a long page of text. (i really dont want to keep uploading and downloading data for no reason since we have limited data caps in our country and i pay lots of money on half weekly basis) "for real" put will provide videos and stuff if it's gonna help prove my situation. both of these guys came to my stream and started talking shit after 1 of them failed in getting me to reply to his private discord dm "sort this out here" aka /ooc Will provide all pictures if needed as well. (pictures of private discord dm's and screenshots of twitch stream chat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuSoHelpful Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 @zatefeto I would like an explanation as to why you sexually role played without consent in /b from the people who could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Where is his proof of the "ERP", it only shows pink /me text in the chat log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2Andrew Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, zatefeto said: long story short :- his video shows a car accident not a vdm case. pissing and jerking off was done /me does action infront of him. i have done an 8 minute video showing the whole story while me in the background commentating and explaining how things happened if you want that instead of a long page of text. (i really dont want to keep uploading and downloading data for no reason since we have limited data caps in our country and i pay lots of money on half weekly basis) "for real" put will provide videos and stuff if it's gonna help prove my situation. both of these guys came to my stream and started talking shit after 1 of them failed in getting me to reply to his private discord dm "sort this out here" aka /ooc Will provide all pictures if needed as well. (pictures of private discord dm's and screenshots of twitch stream chat) This was no " car accident " but instead VDM as you stated we had a previous altercation and decided to follow us as we left the bank which you decided to RP being dizzy/not able to drive and ram me off my bike then go back up to the bank. You then conducted ERP verbally and visually after i told you i did not consent to any of it. Edited September 21, 2019 by x2Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt. Did i run over/crash into any of you 2 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Did you read the VDM rule? or what exactly are you accusing me of over here.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) That's not VDM, Make sure you understand whats the meaning of VDM before you make claims, thanks. Read what i posted up. Edited September 21, 2019 by zatefeto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2Andrew Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 In this video you clearly left the bank as we did and aimed to run of both over, failing to hit leo off his bike but successful with mine in this video from your personal stream you conduct ERP without my consent, very childish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 If that makes me very childish then what does it make you? Back to the main point, explain how is this a VDM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 This back and forth is not useful. Do not make further posts unless you are presenting new evidence. If you have further things you want to add, edit your previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2Andrew Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 You used a vehicle to deathmatch me clearly, i would like to request to change the title to ' ID 41 DM and ERP w/o Consent " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I'm just going to reply to YoSu in this case and he can manage how this report will be going. I was standing on-top of my own car and i was pretty much doing a "/me starts pissing in front" of him and a "/me starts jerking off infront of him" he was standing infront of me while there is a 4 lane road and other places he could move to, i didn't know i would need his consent in /b in order to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuSoHelpful Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 @zatefeto Concerning VDM. I would like to know, seeing your previous interaction at the bank, why you followed them, ran a person off their bike, and then driving straight back to the bank. If it were really an accident you would go back and say sorry either ICly or in /b. You showed no remorse and drove straight back to bank, I find it hard to believe that due to your previous interactions with them this was an accident, it sure doesn't like like one. It seems like you wanted to run them off their bike and then when the damage was done you just booked it. Therefore this would be considered vehicular deathmatching. In the video it's also clear you COULD have gone around them, yet you steered your vehicle into them. Concerning Sexual RP. In the rule book it clearly states the following: 7. IC and OOC Interactions Sexual, torture, or extremely gross roleplay is allowed only if all involved parties (participants and witnesses) have agreed to it in OOC text chat, prior to the actual roleplay being performed. You did not have consent from all parties, there is more people standing at the bank and ID47 clearly said he did not consent. Also he was actively RP'ing with you, he was having a conversation with you, so your argument, saying he could've gone somewhere else is invalid. You can't expect other people to just go somewhere else because you want to do that RP, that's now how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Regarding ERP .. Again i really didn't know about the part where it said "Witnesses" included and i would have totally took his permission regarding that. Here is a video about the whole incident :- Here are some screenshots of both of the guys chat on the stream :- Forgot to highlight in red on "x2Andrew" Edited September 21, 2019 by zatefeto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x2Andrew Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 The twitch chat is OOC as were talking back and forth on stream not ingame. The chat has nothing to do with this report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayta Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) this guy ( zatefeto ) have a poor RP he is lucky i didn't record last week i think after he killed me he frisked me with no rp and thats power gaming Edited September 21, 2019 by Kayta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) I was playing the arab guy for the whole past 7 days aprox, and the arab guy is a legal citizen, are you just trying to create some hallucinations out of thin air here? I can straight pull up my latest robberies from my criminal character where in 1 situation i robbed someone at the trucker's job and eventually giving him all his stuff back and wished him good luck on his job. other time where i robbed some one at the wanted gas station and told him im just feeling angry and asked him to do a anim hug, and trolled him abit before wishing him a safe drive and went away. weird .. Edited September 21, 2019 by zatefeto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayta Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) remember the mors situation u was robbing with a guy im sure u will remember this ( Just edit ur twitch settings or give me acces and i will confirm that eazy if i find the video Edited September 21, 2019 by Kayta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayta Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) @zatefeto Ok what about this PG you was cuffed right ? Edited September 21, 2019 by Kayta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zatefeto Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Clip seems to be unwatchable, i never robbed with the arab guy (i wont lie over a video game), you seem lost my child, i have no time for more kids crying. Please refer from using this thread/topic if you want to get me in trouble so badly, i suggest you create a new topic and mention what ever i did bad to you in that, and then we can take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiggins19 Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) As a Senior Support staff member, already said, going back and forth does not help the situation. I would also like to take the time to remind Kayta of our forum policy of the report section guideline, "Players who are NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED in the report are not allowed to respond unless sharing necessary or pertinent concrete evidence ("I can confirm." or "That's what happened." is not acceptable). If you comment on a report you're not involved in you may be warned by a forum moderator." Pending locked so actual evidence can be reviewed. Edited September 21, 2019 by thiggins19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuSoHelpful Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for your patience while this report was under review. After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players: Abo_Abdo [ID #41] - (V)DM - Offense #1 - Attempting to run over ID#3 and running over ID#47 without a valid reason. You drove straight into the two men, if you did not want to run them over you would've gone around them and not plough through them. In the video it can be seen that you steer directly at them. Also there's no valid reason to attack them. Abo_Abdo [ID #41] - Non-RP - Offense #5 - Sexual RP without consent from the involved parties. 7. IC and OOC Interactions Sexual, torture, or extremely gross roleplay is allowed only if all involved parties (participants and witnesses) have agreed to it in OOC text chat, prior to the actual roleplay being performed. You did not have consent from all parties, there is more people standing at the bank and ID47 clearly said he did not consent. Also he was actively RP'ing with you, he was having a conversation with you, so your argument, saying he could've gone somewhere else is invalid. You can't expect other people to just go somewhere else because you want to do that RP, that's now how it works. Leonardo_Possum [ID #3] - Non-RP - Offense #5 - OOC Insults. Players must not threaten other players or use offensive language in OOC chat or OOC context. You admit to insulting ID#41 on his Twitch stream. We do not tolerate Toxic behavior ICly and OOCly. You stating Twitch is OOC, is correct. So this does actually make it an OOC insult. Louie_Chung [ID #47] - Non-RP - Offense #5 - OOC Insults. Players must not threaten other players or use offensive language in OOC chat or OOC context. You admit to insulting ID#41 on his Twitch stream. We do not tolerate Toxic behavior ICly and OOCly. You stating Twitch is OOC, is correct. So this does actually make it an OOC insult. If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. Regards, Moderator YuSoHelpful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...