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Player(s) being reported: ID 136 Victor Dubois
Date of interaction reported: 19/09/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1568934559

Your characters name: Thomas Pennyworth

Other player(s) involved: Zackariyah Khan

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

  • A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

  • A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

  • Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

  • Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

  • You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

Probably also something about using a work vehicle criminal'ish incidents.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

I was at the DCC office and got a radiocall from a driver apparently taking fire. I didn't have a taxi out so I raced there in my own car (sorry about that). I arrive at the scene, where it looks like a cab and a garbage truck has collided. The driver says the reported party attacked him, and then he tried to flee. We followed, and I tried to yell stop, but didn't continue it because we were driving wfast and such demands can be ignored. We tried to stop him by driving around him and in front to slow him down, but he kept ramming with the truck. The part that really felt like VDM was at the end, going on the on-ramp to the freeway on the truck's left side, and then seeing it turning directly left towards me and crushing my car between the railing and the truck, sending me flying over the side in my car. I know he was in a truck, but there was not in any form reason for him to do that. I reported it ingame, Brawnkoh took that report and said I should report it here as I couldn't upload footage in time.

Evidence of rule breach:

 

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PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Zackariyah_Khan [ID #66]] - [ @Xypint ] - Will you send me your perspective please as I assume it contains staff chat?
  • [Victor_Dubois [ID #136]] - [ Notified IG ] - Why did you ram Thomas_Pennyworth? Where did you get the truck? Also, please provide me any video from your perspective, and your recollection of the events. 

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
Brawnkoh

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Victor_Dubois here.
So first of all I believe it was my first day on the server and I probably made a lot of mistakes, but i don't think this is one of them. I attacked the taxi driver, he escaped, then he came back with few friends. I was obviously trying to flee from getting caught and killed, arrested or kidnapped. They had faster cars, obviously, but i was heavier so i just took advantage of this. It was more than obvious that if i let them stop me or keep chasing it won't end up well for me. Eventually i stop and guess what, they arrest me. 
"

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property." 
Unfortunately i don't have video from this, but his video shows everything clearly.

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21 hours ago, Brawnkoh said:

PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Zackariyah_Khan [ID #66]] - [ @Xypint ] - Will you send me your perspective please as I assume it contains staff chat?
  • [Victor_Dubois [ID #136]] - [ Notified IG ] - Why did you ram Thomas_Pennyworth? Where did you get the truck? Also, please provide me any video from your perspective, and your recollection of the events. 

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,
Brawnkoh

I just saw this. Sure, I'll send you the footage within 7 hours. I'm currently away from the computer where the footage is stored.

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PLAYER REPORT DENIED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I have decided to deny this report for the following reason(s):

  • Due to lack of extended video being received, the fact that you tried to use a classic car to stop a garbage truck, and the fact that he was being shouted demands. I can see why he was fearing for his life in this situation. I think this report could go either way, but I'm going to err on the side of caution. In the future @siemank0o please be aware, we take DM very seriously here at ECRP, and attacking another players vehicle without an RP reason results in very harsh penalties.

This decision is final. Unless instructed to, if you post another player report pertaining to this incident, you may be muted from posting on the forums for a temporary period. If you disagree with the outcome of this report, please file an appeal following the appeal guidelines and format.

Regards,
Brawnkoh

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