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Player(s) being reported: ID 4
Date of interaction reported: 9/17/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD:  1568785000

Your characters name: Tony Chong

Other player(s) involved: ID 60, 39

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

  • A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

  • A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

  • Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

  • Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

  • You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.


How did the player break the rule(s)?  

I tried whispering to a cop and failed to put the "/" but soon after realized the mistake and recognized my mistake in /ooc. I was soon after chased by ID 4 and ID 60 in a car and was never once put under fearRP due to me not leaving my vehicle while the engine was on. Thereafter, I was (possibly) VDM'd by the car and injured. ID 4 then proceeded to come back and start shooting at me, injured on the floor, with a crowd around, for no apparent reason and no roleplay involved.

Evidence of rule breach:

https://streamable.com/9u8q3

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Hello, I am Leon Montgomery (ID 4), the main person you're reporting.

3 hours ago, Brradurito said:

I tried whispering to a cop and failed to put the "/" but soon after realized the mistake and recognized my mistake in /ooc.

While this did occur earlier, this is not the reason we were after you. Originally, we found what we assumed was your friend dying in the streets. We intended to steal his vehicle from him, with the intention to chop it. You ended up pulling up, so we unholstered our weapons in attempts to either get you out of the vehicle, or get you to leave. We chased you off to LSC, resulting in you trying to get assistance from the mechanics. We left LSC and returned to your friend, attempted to break into his vehicle, and you ran down ID 60 with your Elegy Retro. This is the point when we were no longer after your friend's vehicle, but intended to take you out. You ran back to LSC, we continued to fire upon you, and eventually you exited the vehicle and were tapped with the bumper of the Sultan.

3 hours ago, Brradurito said:

I was soon after chased by ID 4 and ID 60 in a car and was never once put under fearRP due to me not leaving my vehicle while the engine was on.

There was never an accusation that you were supposed to be under Fear RP. You did not comply with our demands, so you were chased down, and eventually killed for doing so. There was no expectation for you to exit your vehicle when we took out our guns, but it did give us a reason to take you out.

3 hours ago, Brradurito said:

Thereafter, I was (possibly) VDM'd by the car and injured.

The Vehicle Deathmatching rule states; "Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.". You were only run over once by the Sultan, which was not even intentional, which is evident by the video you are using as evidence. You were merely tapped by the Sultan, which apparently was enough to finish you off.

3 hours ago, Brradurito said:

ID 4 then proceeded to come back and start shooting at me, injured on the floor, with a crowd around, for no apparent reason and no roleplay involved.

This part is correct, I did re-approach your body in attempts at finishing you off as it would risk you remembering what had occurred. I attempted to shoot you four times, but unfortunately the shots were not registering due to desync. As stated by the responses above, I did have a reason to kill you, and there was plenty of contextual RP that occurred before you were killed in the parking lot of Los Santos Customs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSW2IvAqaQc

Here is some evidence of the events that I explained in my first and second replies to your statements. This evidence was not recorded by me, but by ID 60 which you have involved in the player report.

Edited by Leon the Peon
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The idea that I brought up me not being under FearRP was not to reply to an accusation, but to explain what was in ordinance of the rules. As you saw in your own clip, I was never put under fearRP, therefore, the demands given to me while in my car were invalid. Furthermore, the vehicle running me over then you proceeding to loot and attempt to finish me off after was not in ordinance of the rules. I will only reply again if needed to by a moderator.

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28 minutes ago, Brradurito said:

The idea that I brought up me not being under FearRP was not to reply to an accusation, but to explain what was in ordinance of the rules. As you saw in your own clip, I was never put under fearRP, therefore, the demands given to me while in my car were invalid. Furthermore, the vehicle running me over then you proceeding to loot and attempt to finish me off after was not in ordinance of the rules. I will only reply again if needed to by a moderator.

Nothing of what was stated has anything to do with Fear RP. Fear RP is not even relevant to this report at all. Your report pertains exclusively to Deathmatching, and the rule is stated as; 

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Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

Demands were clearly given to you, and you made the decision to not comply with them. This justifies us in taking lethal action against you.

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Hello and thanks for making this report! @Brradurito

Please be patient as we aim to sort this out. 

The evidence that you have provided thus far is is non-conclusive we would need to see what happened in the situation the before. The video you have attached does not show any rules being broken and if you are unable to provide the footage we will have no choice but to close the report. 

Kind Regards,

Meg & @YuSoHelpful

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i don't have any footage as i was not recording but the other party involved i believe would have the whole situation of it including talking to my brother when he got drop off and the thing's that where stated to him about why they really wanted me

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1 hour ago, Brradurito said:

i don't have any footage as i was not recording but the other party involved i believe would have the whole situation of it including talking to my brother when he got drop off and the thing's that where stated to him about why they really wanted me

I also was not recording the interaction, that is why the recording that was provided on my behalf was recorded by a third party. I reached out to him, and he no longer has the entirety of the recording saved, only what was previously uploaded. 

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