Drizzy. Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) layer(s) being reported: ID 58 Date of interaction reported: 15/09/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1568559307 Your characters name: Joe Deys Other player(s) involved: ID 32 is being reported, he was in a group of 3-4 however the only person I am reporting here is iD 32. Specific rule(s) broken: . Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt. Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. How did the player break the rule(s)? I came into the city (sd on duty) to help a MD unit with a person who had a possible 10-15. I hear shots closeby and respond. Here I enter a shootout with 1 person (who is not friends with the person looting me). I drop him but also he drops me, I am injured and have hit my panic when I seen shots/ man with a gun running (before the shootout engaged). ID 32 with one hand busy (holding his phone via /record) does a simple me and takes all my loot (this is partly of the reason I reported as he did not respond do my /do of where he would search). Moving further, He then began to shoot me and finishing me off. He had no reason to kill me except for the excuse he wanted me to forget the roleplay as he robbed me. I was in compliance and did not resist when I was injured. ID 32 had no actual reason that is warranted to kill me. short version: I was helping the guy who robbed me as ID 70 was shooting at them. ID 70 and I were both injured and then they came and looted me and ID 32 finished me off. It was poorly done and they had no reason to finish me off as I was no threat to them/I was not trying to arrest them. Evidence of rule breach: Edited September 17, 2019 by DrizzyDre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzy. Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 I have spoken to ID 32 ingame and made him aware of the report. His friend Bruce has also made been aware so he could remind his friend. ID 32 told me ingame that he killed me because he didn't have a mask on after he robbed me so he killed me which is a prime example (if im not mistaken) of deathmatch, especially in the scenario where I was helping him. I lost items of the following: 100 ~ 110 ammo heavy pistol (personal firearm I had equipped) 1x map, 1x gps, 1x bag, 1x radio, 1x water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine09 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Before this scenario occurred there was a whole other role-play the occurred and this is partly the 1/3 of the whole thing. The first thing to happen was the following. A guy ended up attacking one of our friends which lead to us pulling a gun on him but didn't shoot him we simply forgave him, that guy later on went ahead and stole our friends bike meanwhile ID 70 was watching close and following us the whole time. When the bike thief stole the bike he ended up crashing it and we ended up calling the medic for him to take care of him and we were going to call it a day but the bike thief ended up snitching on us which lead to him snitching on himself saying he stole the bike. Unfortunately for a good 10 minutes the medic, the witnesses and myself were waiting for the pd to come but none of them seemed to show up so she ended up calling the sheriff who ended up turning up on his own. Before the sheriff had arrived ID 70 started drifting in from of us and ended up hitting my friend for no particular reason, he later on drove off as the sheriff arrived. As the Sheriff arrived he spoke to the medic and then he concluded that he will deal with 1. Bike thief. 2. Investigate myself and the two other guys with me. Right before he dealt with number 1 ID 70 shows up with his gun and wearing a mask yet the police officers completely ignores it even though we informed him that this guy is up to nothing good and we were afraid for our lives. The Sheriff calmly said without even thinking 'wait here and I will come back.' To which he got in his car and followed the ambulance that was carrying the bike thief, it wasn't that far away but it was far enough for ID 70 to pull his gun out on my friend who had a gun license and asked him to drop his guns. As there were 3 of us and ID 70 was on his own, the other guy was on his bike so he drove off to speak to the sheriff and bring him over, the other guy who had a license complied and was doing as ID 70 was asking. I was hiding behind a pillar which stalled ID 70 a bit to get his items and as my friend who was in fear RP was about to drop his gun ID 70 started shooting at him for no particular reason. That stalled things even more, My friend ended up dropping the gun and as ID 70 picked up the gun and started running the sheriff came and started following ID 70 which lead to shootout and both of them downing each other. As my character is someone who is in trouble with the police any opportunity he gets to mess with them he will try and do, he knew that the police have a panic button and he was short on time so he decided to rob the inured officer and kill him off which later on in his own RP he will starts regretting his decisions and will lead him to reshape his life around to become a better person. The reason why the officer was finished off: He stated that he was going to investigate us which would have lead to my arrest. He neglected the fact the ID 70 was going to rob us and just drove off which made me angry. My character did not want any witnesses in the whole situation so he and his guys killed off any witnesses that were there as we weren't wearing any masks. I do apologies to 89 if my rp might of seemed bad in his eyes as he is someone who has been playing on this server for way longer than myself and I am still learning how to improve my rp gaming with the more I play. I hope to improve and become a better RP'er in the future but I 100% believe that my actions within this scenario were justified. Edited September 15, 2019 by Nine09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzy. Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) I'm not mad at you for your rushed rolepaly, and I welcome you and all new players. However the facts remain that you looted me for my items and killed me with no reason in relation apart from me remembering and you weren't wearing a mask. The other situation you stated is IC but I will also clear that up. I was responding to the MD call, and was escorting the MD unit with a 10-15 which was my priority and the situation. Your situation took second priority. MD unit and I, rolled down the road for escort before the shots happened of which I u-turned and responded to help you guys out by dropping the shooter. You had no just reason to finish me off, especially after looting me. Looting me , even with low roleplay is understandable..who dosen't love free stuff. But the fact you killed me after is plainly deathmatch as I at no point, was investigating you, chasing you. Neither was their any attempt of roleplay in terms of demands, I was in full compliance. The fact is you killed a easy target cos of my low HP who was actually helping you is clear. I understand you're fairly new but even new players need to stick by our server rules. No further unless asked by staff. Edited September 15, 2019 by DrizzyDre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine09 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, DrizzyDre said: I'm not mad at you for your rushed rolepaly, and I welcome you and all new players. However the facts remain that you looted me for my items and killed me with no reason in relation apart from me remembering and you weren't wearing a mask. The other situation you stated is IC but I will also clear that up. I was responding to the MD call, and was escorting the MD unit with a 10-15 which was my priority and the situation. Your situation took second priority. MD unit and I, rolled down the road for escort before the shots happened of which I u-turned and responded to help you guys out by dropping the shooter. You had no just reason to finish me off, especially after looting me. Looting me , even with low roleplay is understandable..who dosen't love free stuff. But the fact you killed me after is plainly deathmatch as I at no point, was investigating you, chasing you. Neither was their any attempt of roleplay in terms of demands, I was in full compliance. The fact is you killed a easy target cos of my low HP who was actually helping you. I understand you're fairly new but even new players need to stick by our server rules. No further unless asked by staff. you are speaking like i have 100% broke the rules and that is not nice, let's wait until an admin decides what to do next. However we were also the victims in the situation too as it was our friend who ended up in the situation and you could've simply let us get in your car and drive with you. But you chose to leave us with someone who wanted to rob us and the rest speaks for itself, you are an officer and you got shot and I the criminal wanted to rob you. you are not a random civilian in the game who was in that situation you are a sheriff and amongst the other side of the city a lot of people would take respect for what happened. I don't believe what I did was wrong but I am not here to be the judge, I'm here to share what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 REPORT PENDING Thank you for creating this player report. The following people will be tagged/notified to give their side of the story within the next 24 hours: Jordan_Glowstick @Nine09 | So you admit to shooting the reporting party because he might have investigated it leading to an arrest, you did not want a witness and that he did not immediately help you? What happens if the person does not respond? We will review the evidence again and provide our conclusion. What might help my case? Posting evidence of your own POV is always a very handy tool. If you don't have any evidence at your disposal, the best you can do is tell the story in full detail on how it happened on your side. Be honest and do not lie in your reply. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine09 Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Mickeyyy said: REPORT PENDING Thank you for creating this player report. The following people will be tagged/notified to give their side of the story within the next 24 hours: Thomas_Frankle @Nine09 | So you admit to shooting the reporting party because he might have investigated it leading to an arrest, you did not want a witness and that he did not immediately help you? What happens if the person does not respond? We will review the evidence again and provide our conclusion. What might help my case? Posting evidence of your own POV is always a very handy tool. If you don't have any evidence at your disposal, the best you can do is tell the story in full detail on how it happened on your side. Be honest and do not lie in your reply. Regards, Mickeyyy Yes, He did not help when we needed him to. I did not want any witnesses to what happened. When he had the chance to help he was not thinking correctly and lead myself and two other guys to be in a life or death situation. IC my character now is living with the fact he had to end the sheriff and he's paranoid about doing anything bad, so he's turning out for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for your patience and comments provided for this report. After reviewing the evidence provided, I've decided to apply the following punishments to the following players: Jordan_Glowstick @Nine09 due to your admission of guilt you will receive a death matching punishment. Please review the reasons you must have to kill someone in the rules: Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. None of your reasons are valid. Just because you RP a "guy who doesnt like witness" does not mean you can kill someone. The reporting party did nothing to harm you or your friends or even attempt it. You decided to finish him off while he was injured with no justifiable reason. Not happy with the outcome? If you have received a punishment that you do not agree with, you are entitled to a fair punishment appeal that follows the guidelines and format provided. Otherwise, the conclusion of this report is final. Did the reporting party lose any items worth above 25.000 dollars as a result of this report? If you would like to request a refund, you may do so within our refund and transfer requests section, as long as your request follows the guidelines and format provided. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...