MrUntouchable215 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 +1 all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 -1, this would negatively impact my time on the server and would be against my faction so I have to obviously have to deny it. Hopefully i did that right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, SkuLLar said: lol its not against your faction its just to avoid metagaming. Can we remove bikes to stop people driving vertically up mountains? Put down the pipe mate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Einhart Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Using the ID when you don't know what someone's name is IC is metagaming. If you get charges added to you when only your ID was known, submit a forum report. As for this suggestion, while I don't approve of using the ID to metagame, removing this feature would also remove the ability to search the MDC for somebody's fingerprints in the case that they RP not carrying their ID. If we remove the ID search and somebody RPs not having their ID, we would have no way to identify them even if PD roleplays scanning their fingerprints and searching the database for a match. Using the ID search feature, we can check to see if they do indeed have mugshot and fingerprints on file (which is roleplayed when creating a criminal record for somebody). Removal of this feature makes that roleplay entirely pointless and adds an enormous incentive to always roleplay not carrying an ID. Edited September 3, 2019 by Victor Einhart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) -1 ID's used in the MDC is completely OOC and cannot be used to identify an individual for IC reasons. Officers are bound to OOC corruption rules, if you suspect an officer doing this, please submit an IA report or report them on the forums. If ID were bound to a player or ID's did not get lost when someone logs off or crashes, this makes sense, but it is absolutely needed, especially now with /ldo's available now, unless mods and admins want us to contact them every time we need to do /ldo's after someone crashes or logs. I'm actually quite curious when this was perceived as a problem and why now? I don't know of, nor have heard any officers reference any individuals by their ID's ICly, nor apply crimes or repercussions via ID. If any officer were found to be doing this, it would be corrected immediately. Edited September 3, 2019 by Xoza 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandiego Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 definitely needed +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arian Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 After reading some of these comments, I'd like to mention that you could use the excuse of "Thorough investigation was conducted and we successfully identified the suspect" and just use someone's ID to put it on the MDC and get their record up. I'm not saying anyone has done this, but I am saying it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomvd682 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 +1 it makes no sense that this feature is even in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftSharkie Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 If this will stop criminals from complaining about "bullshit charges" from a situation when they were masked, then I'm all for it. +1 -Sharkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashingly Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 +1 mostly, the only reason this is in the game is because too many people say they have no ID on them and rp they have no license on them (despite often times not RPing it). the only option cops have is to RP fingerprints, if they don't have fingerprints on file and they still refuse to RP it we have to call medics who will then run a dna test, in some cases players will still refuse to rp with that, the only option we have is to force the RP (of the DNA) and then type their ID's to get there full name. it would be nice if this wasn't the case, but sometimes we're forced to use ID's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riderz Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will215 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, GOAT said: Can we remove bikes to stop people driving vertically up mountains? Put down the pipe mate. Make a suggestion for it instead of talking about it on this thread? +1, Great suggestion Montie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 General +1. Though, when doing investigation RP it's sometimes needed I think? For fingerprints and stuff? Not 100% sure as /ldo is a thing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomvd682 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Flucifial said: I disagree with that; everyone has licenses which have numbers which police can enter as a way of direct identity (lots of people have the same names) and, whenever the cops type /cuff or anything like that we don't call them lazy for using ID's. I do agree though, it makes it extremely easy for PD to metagame, so +1 from me! "I disagree with that; everyone has licenses which have numbers which police can enter as a way of direct" Shouldn't the license be used instead of an OOC number above your head? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 I can't say that in a faction with 100+ people in that no-one has ever done this but we're hands down the strictest faction when it comes to the rules, in this server. If anyone was caught metagaming, they'd more than likely not be a cop anymore or at the very least they'd be suspended from the faction and punished by the staff, same as everyone else. I'll give you an example of when it's used. Guy comes to the impound, I get his name ICly but he has one of those long ass Russian names. ICly, I know his name now but to save him and me some time and potentially fucking up the spelling, I enter this player-id. Bruce and them are ex-PD and since they were The Hounds of The Impound back then, I'd bet my left bollock they've benefited from using this before in that way. It's always the same people on these threads unfortunately complaining about what PD has. Why don't you actually put your energy into getting NBDY to add more stuff in for gangs instead of worrying about what PD has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixton Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Ill remain neutral. Both sides have great points. I have no issue with typing the persons name in. Edited September 4, 2019 by Brixton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomvd682 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, GOAT said: I can't say that in a faction with 100+ people in that no-one has ever done this but we're hands down the strictest faction when it comes to the rules, in this server. If anyone was caught metagaming, they'd more than likely not be a cop anymore or at the very least they'd be suspended from the faction and punished by the staff, same as everyone else. I'll give you an example of when it's used. Guy comes to the impound, I get his name ICly but he has one of those long ass Russian names. ICly, I know his name now but to save him and me some time and potentially fucking up the spelling, I enter this player-id. Bruce and them are ex-PD and since they were The Hounds of The Impound back then, I'd bet my left bollock they've benefited from using this before in that way. It's always the same people on these threads unfortunately complaining about what PD has. Why don't you actually put your energy into getting NBDY to add more stuff in for gangs instead of worrying about what PD has. How does it not make perfect sense to type in his IC name into your MDC instead of an OOC number floating above your head? Maybe we can have a citizen number on our license or on an ID instead of using the your player ID which could be easily abused to metagame. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Turner Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 +1 Getting 20k or so of charges from a sheriff I've had 0 interactions with is not fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCanadian Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Tomvd682 said: How does it not make perfect sense to type in his IC name into your MDC instead of an OOC number floating above your head? Maybe we can have a citizen number on our license or on an ID instead of using the your player ID which could be easily abused to metagame. This could be a great thing. Add a license number such as ARN078 in the /license and cops can use those instead of player IDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiro Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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