Dylan Ortiz Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Player(s) being reported: ID 98 ID 185 Date of interaction reported: 02/09/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 138 | 1567444552 Your characters name: Dylan_ortin Other player(s) involved: Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt. Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. 7. IC and OOC Interactions OOC insults. How did the player break the rule(s)? ID 98 (Deathmatch) i was inside my car with the engine running windows up when ID 185 said get out of the car now then started shooting at me. Since i was in a car that was not stalled or the engine was not off i am not under Fear RP so i don't have to listen to his demands and i was already reversing. Video Below at 0:07 seconds you can see i'm already reversing before he even talks ID 185 (OOC INSULT) photos speak for themselves Edited September 2, 2019 by Dylan Ortiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyson1904 Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Another player in DM report when he has a gun pointed and has no fear of rp, accompanied with VDM, the insults were mine, because on a server with this dimension should not let in players who do not know what they are doing here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Ortiz Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 hey thanks for the copy and pasted reply, i agree with you fully about this server shouldn't be letting players in that don't know what they are doing... like OOC insult and DM... lets take a look at the rules 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. • When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked. • When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you. As a victim, whose life is in direct danger: • You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker. • You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you. i was allow to run him over as he was shooting at me as the rules state see below 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawnkoh Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES Thank you for your patience while this report is under review. After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours: [Jayceon_Tayllor [ID #185]] - [ @tyson1904 ] - Why did you think it was appropriate to ooc insult, and attack the player in this circumstance? Also, from an RP perspective tell me what your thought process was behind punching someone who had a gun, and that your friend was shooting at? I'd like to hear your perspective. [Bob_Stuart [ID #98]] - [Will be notified in-game] - Why did you shoot at a man who had jumped into a car that was not stalled, and was not off and who didn't appear to have been under direct FearRP? If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Brawnkoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frix Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Hi, ID 98 here, for me when i pointed the gun at him at 00:08 he was still out of the car (as you can see because of the direction i was aiming at). In my vision he just teleported to the car and tried to escape. That's why i was shooting at him. After that he tried to Ram me while i was directly shooting at him , and when he left the car he even tried to pull his gun out while i was pointing my gun at him? Where's his FearRP? To conclude, this whole situation happened because of the lack of FearRP ID 138 had (and also the strange teleport to the car bug that happened for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawnkoh Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Frix said: Hi, ID 98 here, for me when i pointed the gun at him at 00:08 he was still out of the car (as you can see because of the direction i was aiming at). In my vision he just teleported to the car and tried to escape. That's why i was shooting at him. After that he tried to Ram me while i was directly shooting at him , and when he left the car he even tried to pull his gun out while i was pointing my gun at him? Where's his FearRP? To conclude, this whole situation happened because of the lack of FearRP ID 138 had (and also the strange teleport to the car bug that happened for me). Do you happen to have any video showing your version of events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Ortiz Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) i ran you over because it was the only thing i could do to save my life and i am allowed to under the Deathmatching rules, now for the getting out of the car part there is 2 reasons i got out of the car the 1st is your car is blocking the only way out of the butcher so there's no where else to go and secondly i thought when i ran you over you were dead hence getting out of the car you will also notice that i didn't even shoot even tho i was allowed to you said that i teleported to the car but at 0:07 you started to speak and at 0:09 you started shooting and i was already reversing at 0:08 so the car was moving before you had even finished speaking so even if i did teleport on your screen the car would have been moving before you could finish saying get out of the car but you still opened fire just a side note the reason you gun could be aiming in the wrong direction could be from taking while aiming it moves the gun on other peoples screens Edited September 4, 2019 by Dylan Ortiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyson1904 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 @Brawnkoh As I said earlier, supposedly on every server I played, any action involving guns, we had to be afraid of rp, the boy was with his back to me, bag in hand and didn't show any kind of fear rp I was going to punch to help my friend .. The insults was at the moment was nervous to see so much anti rp along in my way of seeing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawnkoh Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for your patience while this report was under review. After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players: [Jayceon_Tayllor [ID #]] - [NonRP] - [Offense #1] - [OOC Insults] [Bob_Stuart [ID #98]] - [Deathmatching] - [Offense #1] - [Shooting at an individual in a car who's engine is not stalled or off, and not under direct FearRP] Firstly, I'd like to state to Jayceon, that OOC and IC interactions are not the same. Each of us are playing characters. We can do so without the need to insult each other. I probably would have let it slide here if it wouldn't have been an insult towards a protected class. As far as punching people with guns, your punch doesn't appear to have landed, however, I simply don't see any logical reason while your friend is shooting someone, you would run up to him and punch him and risk getting shot in crossfire. It's nonRP. In the future, please don't do this. Value your life. Bob, I'll list a picture below, but you can clearly see that @Dylan Ortiz was in his vehicle (which was still on) well before you gave any demands or even had your pistol out. Our rules state as below: Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. Due to this, @Dylan Ortiz was not in direct fear for his life. As such, the next rule applies. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. This means that because you fired due to a lack of following demands, the individual you shot at must be under FearRP, and he simply was not. You will be receiving DM #1. While I think you did have him trapped, and he wouldn't have gotten away from this, I think you were too quick to shoot. If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. Regards, Brawnkoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
