Fear Rp ID 111 ID 64

[GiorgosK]

Player(s) being reported: ID 111 ID 64
Date of interaction reported: 2/9/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1548003445

Your characters name: Nikolas Papatriantafilopoulos

Other player(s) involved: None But:  Admin Yosohelpful was on the scene for the second part .

Specific rule(s) broken:
 

13. Fear Roleplay (FRP)

• Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life.

• Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range.

• When you’re in a vehicle that is stalled or turned off and a weapon is aimed at you close range.

• When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger.

• Driving a vehicle in an active shootout more than once without the intent of protecting a friend, fleeing with it, or using it as cover.

• Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger:

• When you are in a car which engine is not stalled.

• When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked.

• When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you.

• As a victim, whose life is in direct danger:

• You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker.

• You cannot call 911 or call your friends or allies to aid you.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

In the first part 64 pulled his gun out and done a barrel roll and shoot me down , considering that in gta you have to pull your gun and then do the barrel roll in real life he couldn't even reach for it as i could shoot him in the head right awayt . On the second clip Both of them didnt want to hear any of my demands and 111 didnt realy care about his friends life. On the both of the clips fear rp was broken . Yosohelpful came on scene and resumed the scenario and they broke again fear rp , told the moderator that i will report it on forums . Informed both of the parties that they are getting reported .

Evidence of rule breach:

first clip:

second clip:

 

[YuSoHelpful]

@GiorgosK The first clip was handled by me in-game and was resolved by restarting the RP. Therefore this should not be included in the report at all.

Please do remove this part from your report.

 

Also since the report is against a staff member. The report will be pending a senior admin+

 

Kind Regards,
Moderator YuSoHelpful

[kitkatkait]

ID 111 here. 

 

The first video was handled on the scene and because it was such a 50/50 situation like Yusohelpful said it was discussed how it could be seen both ways and we voted to restart the rp. 

 

In the second scene  I immediately ducked down on the side of the car with my gun out because during the explanation it was stated that being behind the car does not subject me to fear RP because I’m not in the line of fire. So he was going back and forth with his demands. Saying for me to come around which I didn’t have to comply to because I was in hidden on the other side of the car. He then started counting down and because I already had my gun out I stayed low and walking around the car and then shot because I was never directly under line of fire.

 

Once the shots started Louie pulled his gun because he was no longer being held at gun point. I also have video if needed but can send it separately. 

[GiorgosK]

4 minutes ago, YuSoHelpful said:

@GiorgosK The first clip was handled by me in-game and was resolved by restarting the RP. Therefore this should not be included in the report at all.

Please do remove this part from your report.

 

Kind Regards,
Moderator YuSoHelpful

Yes the first clip handled by the ingame report by you , but i want to leave it here to show that these guys was trying to win the situation because they were outnumbered . Yes they were outnumbered but they didn't seem to care about their lifes (see at 0:22 and 0:45) . The admin handling this report can not include the first clip of course .

4 minutes ago, kitkatkait said:

ID 111 here. 

 

The first video was handled on the scene and because it was such a 50/50 situation like Yusohelpful said it was discussed how it could be seen both ways and we voted to restart the rp. 

 

In the second scene  I immediately ducked down on the side of the car with my gun out because during the explanation it was stated that being behind the car does not subject me to fear RP because I’m not in the line of fire. So he was going back and forth with his demands. Saying for me to come around which I didn’t have to comply to because I was in hidden on the other side of the car. He then started counting down and because I already had my gun out I stayed low and walking around the car and then shot because I was never directly under line of fire.

 

Once the shots started Louie pulled his gun because he was no longer being held at gun point. I also have video if needed but can send it separately. 

Didn't cared about your life neither of your friends ( i have a clip of you speaking to each other inside the car and making jokes with that clearly stating you are friends IC ).

In real life your friend would receive a straight bullet on his head and die in seconds . You didnt cared a second about your life because you knowed later you will respawn on the hospital and your friend could give you your items back . Your tried on both clips to win by shooting me down because you were outnumbered with not caring about each other .

[ThatCrazyStreamer]

ID 64 speaking on this altercation.

So my main standpoint is that, video one should be deleted because your trying to use a previous resolved situation to sway the decision making based on the second video.

I honestly don't have a response, I feel ID 111 has covered enough. 

[Archaeah]

Hello and thank you for the report. 

I have read over the responses and watched the relevant video. From this I have decided:

 

ID 111/ Kat_Galaxy | Will receive no punishment. 

ID64/ Giovanni_Hamilton | Will receive non-rp #1 for breach of fear RP. 

 

I find that ducking and hiding to be a realistic reaction to being held up. While not being in clear danger while hiding, she chose to not follow demands as she is not under fear rp.

Meanwhile, ID 64 with a gun aimed at him does not get on his knees even after the reporting party says "EVERYONE ON(E) HIS KNEES". You have well over a minute to do so after this demand, as well as prior to that to comply with demands. 

 

Report Accepted. 

Regards, 

Archaeah.