ID 11 DM. Bakmeel,Redhot making decisions contradictingrules

[Tomas136]

Player(s) being reported: ID 11 @Bakmeel @RedHot
Date of interaction reported: 2019/8/30
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1567192711

Your characters name: Thomas Armstrong 

Other player(s) involved: N/A

Specific rule(s) broken:

 

14. Deathmatch (DM)

• Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

• Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

• A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

• A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

• If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

• Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

• Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

• Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

  1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

  2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

  3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

• You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

I was sitting in my car with engine on and he pulled gun on me and said get out but since fearrp doesn't apply if you're in a car with engine on i started to drive away and he shot me 

@Bakmeel @RedHot made decision that its not dm ignoring the second part of the dm rule i've highlited  that you can only shoot them when they try to escape  in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. and both have stated i wasnt under fearrp.

Reports that show they not only contradict the rule but other administrators and @RedHot himself : The reporting party and his friend that you attacked were not under Fear-RP. Therefore you had no valid reason to shoot them.

 You are being issued this punishment as the reporting party was not under Fear RP when he ran therefore you had no reason to open fire on him.

Edit: couple more forum reports  where someone was punished in the same situation for DM

 

 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Tomas136

[Bakmeel]

Hello, I clearly said that it was not a final decision and I told you to make a forum report so a senior admin can give you a final answer.

[BallinByNature]

After review, no action will be taken. Player is clearly abusing the fearRP rules trying to sit in his vehicle driving on grass / neighborhoods which is borderline non-RP, to try to be unable to be robbed while being there. 

Thanks for the report.