Dylan Ortiz Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Player(s) being reported: ID 121, ID 152 Date of interaction reported: 24/08/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 82 | 1566653261 Your characters name: Dylan_ortiz Other player(s) involved: Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt. Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. 8. Non-Roleplay (NRP) Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay: • Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason. • Mercy Killing - Asking to be killed by a friend (Killing a friend falls under deathmatching). • Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles. • Spawning a scripted work vehicle and using it for crimes or submerging any vehicle in water. • Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase. Players who disconnect during roleplay must reconnect and inform other parties in order to resume roleplay. If you are unable to reconnect it may be excused after providing proof. In a situation where a player gets away from an incident where they're being chased/pursued, they must wait 15 minutes before they can logout. Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through. Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do. In a situation where a player’s game crashes or the player is kicked from the server, they should be allowed to have the same advantages as they have had before their leave. How did the player break the rule(s)? i was driving a car i found about 5 minutes before this when ID 152 and ID 121 drove next to me telling me to pull over while i was driving and then opened fire when they started shooting i tried to ram them off me to save my life then the vehicle stalled so i got out and started shooting back at ID 121 when ID 152 decided to turn around and run me over like he was in a SUV on his bike. I had no prior engagement with any of the players until he started shooting at me Evidence of rule breach: i have uploaded 2 vidoes one of where i found the vehicle and one of the DM and NON RP Video #1 finding the car Video #2 DM and NON RP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsjsj Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) @Dylan Ortiz im sorry my passenger acted in such a appalling way to you during this encounter i did not intend to vdm you in anyway and my point of view shows i didn't directly hit you it must of been purely desync i told my passenger not to shoot he refused to listen i am very sorry for this myself. Also i didn't rob you because i knew the person on the back of my bike was in the wrong and i went in a totally different direction to the whole incident cause i wanted nothing to do with what he was doing. Edited August 24, 2019 by datsjsj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Ortiz Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 you were clearly trying to run me over otherwise you would of rode off to avoid getting shot at / in the cross fire but instead you turn around aim for me and ride past me to what say hello? you even rode up the hill cause you were trying to hit me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelreci Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Im the passanger in this video the one that shooted you . @Dylan Ortiz in the video you can clearly hear me that i said stop the car and pointed a gun to you but you didnt even stop to type neither Voice Chatting . I repeatedly said to you more than 3-4 times to stop and you didnt listen so . 1. You didnt apply to my demands 2. Attempting to escape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsjsj Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 i know but i din't hit you and i could of hit you square on i was just in shock of what the idiot on back of my bike was doing frankly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Ortiz Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) @samelreci 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. and @datsjsj your video at 0:25 you had more then enough time to keep driving straight but you keep turning and aim for me Edited August 24, 2019 by Dylan Ortiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelreci Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 @datsjsj i was getting my car which was stolen and i told him stop the car in the video it is clearly heard so he didint even talked or typed he just tried to escape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsjsj Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 @Dylan Ortiz i understand the rules and i obey them and i didn't hit you dylan i might of been close but i didn't and i could of if i wanted to but i wouldn't like i said im sorry for this whole incident i would be pissed but im not the one who robbed and shot you dead @samelreciis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelreci Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 @Dylan Ortiz as you see in the video i told you to stop the car you didnt listened and you tried to escape then i shot your car so ur engine can be stalled after that you decided to fight me . In your video i shot the car not you . I did that to stall the car so i can rob you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Ortiz Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) i don't have to listen to any demands given by you while i'm in a car with the engine on and @datsjsj here's a screen shot it you had ample time to go any direction you wanted but instead you turn around 180 degrees and come at me to the point your bike goes up the hill and nearly hits the tree Edited August 24, 2019 by Dylan Ortiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsjsj Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 your still in the wrong @samelreci he was in a moving a vehicle not a stalled one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelreci Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 @datsjsj thats why i shot his engine to stall and start making demands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsjsj Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Yo can clearly see i didn't hit you in the video i may of went towards you but i didn't intentionally vdm or even hit you on my side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 REPORT PENDING Thank you for creating this player report. The following people will be tagged/notified to give their side of the story within the next 24 hours: @samelreci I want you to explain to me how, in a chase such as that one, the driver would have been able to hear your demands. Seeing as both of the engines were very loud, you had a helmet on and his window was up. Also explain to me how, being as he was not subject to FearRP (seeing as the vehicle was not off or stalled) why you felt you were in the right for shooting. @datsjsj From watching both videos of your driving I find it very hard to believe that you were not trying to run him over. You were at a dead stop, you drove toward him and even turned towards him also. Please explain your reasoning to me and why you took the actions you took. No one else is permitted to respond aside from these two players or a staff member, Thank You. What happens if the person does not respond? We will review the evidence again and provide our conclusion. What might help my case? Posting evidence of your own POV is always a very handy tool. If you don't have any evidence at your disposal, the best you can do is tell the story in full detail on how it happened on your side. Be honest and do not lie in your reply. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelreci Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 i felt i should shoot the engine to stop it from working so i can make demands to the player that was in my car ( applying demands or fighting me is a part of rp ) . Another reason i had to shot is because it was my car being stealed and i wanted to stop it from working so i can catch him . So its not that i shot the engine for fun . The reason i had is because my car was being stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelreci Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property." assuming vehicles count as property, he had stolen it + could potentially be going to chop it. That is the other thing i wanted to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsjsj Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) @Mickeyyyto be honest my mind was a blur during the incident i couldn't believe the person on back of my bike opened fire even then i just went in hes direction and pulled away as much as i could because i didn't want to vdm him because i knew he had been wronged i sincerly apoligise to @Dylan Ortizfor this encounter even happen and i wish i had handled it better with what i did and i really wish the person on my bike hadn't just started firing Edited August 24, 2019 by datsjsj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for your patience and comments provided for this report. After reviewing the evidence provided, I've decided to apply the following punishments to the following players: @samelreci You will receive a death matching punishment. Reasoning - Theft is not a valid reason the shoot someone. Yes, in the rules it states damage to property but at that time the reporting party was not damaging your vehicle at all. Next thing, vehicle to vehicle commands do not work. The car had a loud engine and so does the bike. You wearing a helmet and with his windows up he most likely would not have heard you. All that added up with him not having the FearRP rule apply to him, being that the vehicle was not off or stalled, is what makes this death matching. @datsjsj Given the fact you did not hit him you will not be punished. Keep in mind that for future reference I would refrain from even the chance of having that happen. Not happy with the outcome? If you have received a punishment that you do not agree with, you are entitled to a fair punishment appeal that follows the guidelines and format provided. Otherwise, the conclusion of this report is final. Did the reporting party lose any items worth above 25.000 dollars as a result of this report? If you would like to request a refund, you may do so within our refund and transfer requests section, as long as your request follows the guidelines and format provided. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
